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A partial list of players Mike Trout passed this season the career fWAR leaderboard:

 

Jim Edmonds

Alan Trammell

Yogi Berra

Mike Piazza

Roberto Alomar

Duke Snider

Ernie Banks

Chase Utley

Willie Stargell

Kenny Lofton

Joe Torre

Gary Sheffield

Dick Allen

Pee Wee Reese

Darrell Evans

Hank Greenberg

Ryne Sandberg

Joe Jackson

Billy Williams

Sammy Sosa

Dave Winfield

Bobby Abreu

Andre Dawson

Keith Hernandez

Tony Perez

Ichiro Suzuki

Jackie Robinson

Fred McGriff

Robin Ventura

Jeff Kent

Lance Berkman

Todd Helton

 

His career 64.7 fWAR ranks him 89th of all time on total career value. He's officially entering the part of the list where there are more HOF players than not. He's still just 27 years old.

 

i love these lists every year

 

Next year's is likely to be a doozy. He's within 5 fWAR of:

 

Jim Thome

Ivan Rodriguez

Larry Walker

Carlos Beltran

Paul Molitor

Ozzie Smith

Willie McCovey

Barry Larkin

Robin Yount

Manny Ramirez

Tim Raines

Mark McGwire

Harmon Killebrew

Edgar Martinez

Tony Gwynn

 

 

And he's within 10 fWAR of:

 

Derek Jeter

Reggie Jackson

Rod Carew

Frank Thomas

Eddie Murray

Ron Santo

Miguel Cabrera

Rafael Palmeiro

Scott Rolen

 

 

 

His 64.7 fWAR currently ranks him 5th among active players, behind only:

 

Albert Pujols - 88.2

Adrian Beltre - 84.0

Miguel Cabrera - 70.7

CC Sabathia - 67.8

 

None of those guys look to be contributors for much longer. So he's likely to take over as the active leader within the next few years unless he falls off pace and Justin Verlander (63.6) or Clayton Kershaw (61.6) can pitch like an ace for a few more years.

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taking the Cubs out of the equation (which they will probably do to themselves tonight. Where do you rank the playoff teams in terms of who you want to win?

 

I think i'm at this right now, 1 is solid but the rest can move a couple slots either way

 

1. A's - i think this one is probably pretty universal here

2. Red Sox - they are the hope for what happens when freed from Chili

3. Indians - meh, let them end their drought

4. Yankees - I don't get worked up about the Yankees, they've won one title in the last 18 years and they dong the hell out of the ball, that's fun

5. Astros - I'm curious if I'm the only one that prefers any AL over any non Cubs NL team winning? Only reason they're here

6. Rockies - just want the bottom 3 to win less than them

7. Braves - no great reason, just don't want them to win

8. Dodgers - f 'em

9. Brewers - f 'em more

I have Cleveland #1 and Oakland #2 easily. Atlanta would probably be third (fun young team), or maybe Colorado.

 

I don't hate Milwaukee nearly as much as most of you. I don't want them to win but it wouldn't bother me. I'd probably have them fifth with Boston and the Yankees 6 and 7, order irrelevant.

 

Houston's dead last purely out of spite. LA second to last.

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The Indians don't deserve horsefeathers as long as they're rocking Wahoo officially.

 

The whole loathing the Dodgers thing never clicked with me, plus I wanna see WS-celebrating Puig unleashed on the world, so they're my #2 after the A's.

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The Indians don't deserve horsefeathers as long as they're rocking Wahoo officially.

 

The whole loathing the Dodgers thing never clicked with me, plus I wanna see WS-celebrating Puig unleashed on the world, so they're my #2 after the A's.

 

you absolute madman

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The Indians don't deserve horsefeathers as long as they're rocking Wahoo officially.

 

The whole loathing the Dodgers thing never clicked with me, plus I wanna see WS-celebrating Puig unleashed on the world, so they're my #2 after the A's.

 

you absolute madman

 

I WANTED to hate them. But they didn't and don't have nearly enough hatable players for my liking. They're either super forgettable or actually kinda cool dudes. Plus their parking lot is Jets vs. Sharks, except with real knives. Larry King's usually lurking in the front row like some kind of good luck ghoul...plus I'm never gonna fault a team for spending F.U. money.

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The Indians don't deserve horsefeathers as long as they're rocking Wahoo officially.

 

The whole loathing the Dodgers thing never clicked with me, plus I wanna see WS-celebrating Puig unleashed on the world, so they're my #2 after the A's.

 

you absolute madman

 

I WANTED to hate them. But they didn't and don't have nearly enough hatable players for my liking. They're either super forgettable or actually kinda cool dudes. Plus their parking lot is Jets vs. Sharks, except with real knives. Larry King's usually lurking in the front row like some kind of good luck ghoul...plus I'm never gonna fault a team for spending F.U. money.

 

The fact that they generate [expletive] players (Chris Taylor and MAX MUNCY) almost every year on top of their current situation gets my hate juices flowing

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The Indians don't deserve horsefeathers as long as they're rocking Wahoo officially.

 

The whole loathing the Dodgers thing never clicked with me, plus I wanna see WS-celebrating Puig unleashed on the world, so they're my #2 after the A's.

 

you absolute madman

 

I WANTED to hate them. But they didn't and don't have nearly enough hatable players for my liking. They're either super forgettable or actually kinda cool dudes. Plus their parking lot is Jets vs. Sharks, except with real knives. Larry King's usually lurking in the front row like some kind of good luck ghoul...plus I'm never gonna fault a team for spending F.U. money.

 

while just now looking at their fangraphs page to determine if i had reasons to hate their top 10 batters (I succeeded) I learned that Slur Hernandez hit 21 bombs this year

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I just took a quick look at BR's top 12 Dodgers, and it's mostly a parade of forgettable, interchangeable dudes, with cool guys like Puig and Kershaw and Machado mixed in, plus Gritty.

 

I just can't muster the effort to hate such a generic team.

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I just took a quick look at BR's top 12 Dodgers, and it's mostly a parade of forgettable, interchangeable dudes, with cool guys like Puig and Kershaw and Machado mixed in, plus Gritty.

 

I just can't muster the effort to hate such a generic team.

You should hate Muncy, Peterson, Hernandez and Taylor with all your heart. horsefeathers those guys

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I just took a quick look at BR's top 12 Dodgers, and it's mostly a parade of forgettable, interchangeable dudes, with cool guys like Puig and Kershaw and Machado mixed in, plus Gritty.

 

I just can't muster the effort to hate such a generic team.

You should hate Muncy, Peterson, Hernandez and Taylor with all your heart. horsefeathers those guys

 

yeah exactly. max muncy was worth essentially the same WAR as Baez this year. if that's ok with you you can absolutely funk off

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But Max Muncy is such a great baseball name. Why am I hating him besides, "it's annoying he plays on another team that my team rarely plays?"

Because they are still one of our rivals in this window and finding that 28 year old fat horsefeathers off the scrap heap and him being one of the best hitters in MLB is ridiculous. Just like Taylor last year. Hernandez is just annoying and Pederson looks like one of Phillip Rivers 30 sons.

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Meh; so long as it's not the Cardinals doing it, I'm good.

 

If the Cubs wanna figure out how to make fat scrap heap guys work, I'm all for it.

 

fat scrap heap guys, acquired:

 

Daniel Murphy

Brandon Kintzler

Jorge de la Rosa

 

at least de la Rosa has been good, if not extremely chubby.

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