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Wtf @ their way of writing innings

 

68 0/100. Really horsefeathering weird.

 

But exciting stuff nonetheless.

 

Best case scenario for Cease is what? Start 2017 at Low-A, with a promotion to High-A? Then 2018 make it to Tennessee? 2019 big jump to MLB?

 

Yeah, that's probably best case. They have to build his innings up too. So, they've got to be careful with him.

 

I guess if he's really dominant, I could potentially see him being brought to the majors in Sept 2018, to use as a weapon out of the pen for that postseason.....

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From AZ Phil:

Very encouraging outing for Eddie Butler Saturday at Sloan Park versus Rockies.

 

Six up & six down via weak contact (6-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, 4-3, F-7), threw strikes, outstanding FB command. four seamer consistently 95 (touched 96), two-seamer at 91-93 induced most of the grounders, slider & change-up both 86-88 (albeit with so-so command), and dropped a couple of nice curves at 80-81.

 

Had to feel good for him to pitch like that against his former team.

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Lol our front office is like playing some way more advanced game while some play chess and others play checkers.

 

Please never leave Theo Epstein.

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Eloy is going to be such a beast. I'll be following him with the same fervor that I was for Bryant, Schwarber, et al.

 

And I have high hopes for Butler. I know I shouldn't. I know it's not realistic to expect us to Arrieta whoever we want. But I really liked that pick up. Hopefully we keep seeing more of that from him.

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To be fair, Butler threw the 8th and 9th against minor league fodder. Still nice to see though, and since he's ticketed for Iowa regardless, we don't have to focus as much on results, which is nice because the process(heavy 95 mph, ground balls galore) looks good too.

 

And yes, Eloy is going to be an impact player, and that is awesome.

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http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/219438510/cubs-prospect-dylan-cease-on-tommy-john/

Callis with a Q&A with Cease

 

I didn't realize that the velo post TJS was a surprise. He was "only" hitting around 94 at the 2013 under armor game.

 

It looks like pre-draft he had at least touched 97-98:

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=61785&p=3044865#p3044865

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=62952&p=3079674#p3079674

 

But the consistency that he's hit 98-100 as a pro is a combination of surprise and him getting proper instruction to get more out of his body.

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Cease in MLB in 2019 is like the < 1% best case scenario, the odds have him getting through 4 levels in less than 3 years are extremely low.

I agree that the chances of him reaching the bigs at some point in 2019 are low. When you consider that he could come up as a reliever, I don't know if it's a less than 1% chance, but it's certainly less than a 50/50 proposition.

 

The main hurdle for me is health. It's a big question mark for every pitcher and especially so for one who's already had TJS. The lesser hurdle is performance. His control/command needs to stay on the trajectory of improvement it's currently on, and he needs to continue to develop FB command and his secondaries (curve and change up). But he's certainly got the talent to move quickly.

 

So, best case scenario, IF he performs well at each level (not that unlikely) AND stays healthy (a little more unlikely), I don't think his lack of innings will hold him back. Cease pitched 67.2 IP between extended spring and Eugene last year. Assuming no time missed and above average to dominant performance, he could hit 100 innings this year, 130+ in 2018 and 160+ in 2019. If he does stay healthy and performs well, he could easily move through 4 minor league levels within 3 seasons. Heck, if he's dominant enough (and stays healthy), he could reach AAA in the 2nd half of next year.

 

There's no way he'd have the innings built up to be a full time rotation piece by 2019, but starting out in the pen, being stretched out and joining the rotation in the 2nd half of 2019 wouldn't be out of the question if his innings limit is around 160.

 

If he keeps being shut down here and there and doesn't pitch over 80 innings this year, the chances of him moving to the pen get a lot greater. But if he's highly effective while healthy, being a reliever could still get him to the bigs by 2019.

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