NFL week 12

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NFL Lines For Week 12 - NFL Football Line Week Twelve

NFL Line 11/26 - 11/30, 2015

Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total

11/26 12:30 ET At Detroit -2 Philadelphia 45.5

11/26 4:30 ET At Dallas -1 Carolina 46

11/26 8:30 ET At Green Bay -9 Chicago 46

11/29 1:00 ET At Houston -3 New Orleans 47.5

11/29 1:00 ET At Atlanta -1 Minnesota 46

11/29 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -9 St. Louis 42

11/29 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -3 Tampa Bay 46.5

11/29 1:00 ET NY Giants -2.5 At Washington 46.5

11/29 1:00 ET Oakland -2 At Tennessee 44

11/29 1:00 ET At Kansas City -5.5 Buffalo 42.5

11/29 1:00 ET At NY Jets -3.5 Miami 42.5

11/29 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -4 San Diego 46.5

11/29 4:05 ET Arizona -10.5 At San Francisco 45

11/29 4:25 ET At Seattle -4 Pittsburgh 45

11/29 8:30 ET New England -3 At Denver 43.5

 

Monday Night Football Line

11/30 8:30 ET At Cleveland -2.5 Baltimore 41

[jersey cubs fan]

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[Careless]

How did philly win four games?

[Careless]

I know Minnesota winning is good for the Bears, but I just can't root for them

[bukie]

I know Minnesota winning is good for the Bears, but I just can't root for them

I'm not sure that's true. Basically, in order for the Bears to somehow make the playoffs, they'll have to pass at least 2 of Seattle, Green Bay, Minnesota and Atlanta. Granted, Atlanta is currently closer than Minnesota, but those are the two most likely to falter over the second half, so either win/loss result in that game is good for the Bears.

 

As long as it's not a tie.

[sneakypower]

[Careless]

5 yards past twice in the same game??

[bukie]

If Seattle and Tampa Bay lose, Carolina clinches a playoff spot.

[Guest]

The Chiefs are a Seahawks win from being tied for the 1st wild card, plus they hold tiebreakers over Pittsburgh, Buffalo, & Houston and all 5 remaining games are against below .500 teams. Pretty remarkable to be in that position after starting 1-5.

[Andy]

If Seattle and Tampa Bay lose, Carolina clinches a playoff spot.

And can clinch the division with a win next week. This has been a fun year.

[Derwood]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

[rawaction]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

 

It was. The defensive back talent was very pro-Seattle too, which is the real reason the Steelers lost though.

[Guest]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

 

I started watching early in the 4th and think they generally got the calls right(although the unnecessary roughness in shoving Wilson doesn't always get called), but really it underscores that the NFL has just become impossibly silly with rules. Even stuff that's always existed, like in that game Seattle got called for a formation penalty because an offensive tackle wasn't covered at the line. Why is that a rule? Genuinely curious what advantage that gives the offense that we need to legislate and monitor it. And that's not even controversial stuff like the catch/not a catch madness.

[rawaction]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

 

I started watching early in the 4th and think they generally got the calls right(although the unnecessary roughness in shoving Wilson doesn't always get called), but really it underscores that the NFL has just become impossibly silly with rules. Even stuff that's always existed, like in that game Seattle got called for a formation penalty because an offensive tackle wasn't covered at the line. Why is that a rule? Genuinely curious what advantage that gives the offense that we need to legislate and monitor it. And that's not even controversial stuff like the catch/not a catch madness.

 

It serves a couple purposes. An OT actually CAN be at the end of the line ON the line, but he is then an eligible receiver. In that case, he then has to report to the official as an eligible receiver, as he doesn't have a receiver's number (any eligible WR, TE, RB, QB number). But the advantage it gives the offense is that it means they can have an extra player in the backfield. 7 guys are required to be on the offensive line of scrimmage on every play. If the OT as at the end of the line on one side, that means no WR or TE is. And only 1 WR/TE can be at the end of the line on the opposite side (actually, you can have as many people you want on the LOS but only the very end guys on each side are eligible to receive a pass), so the offense then can get away with an extra player in the backfield and the defense does not then have the ability to press that player off the line of scrimmage.

 

Complicated, but it makes sense.

[Guest]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

 

I started watching early in the 4th and think they generally got the calls right(although the unnecessary roughness in shoving Wilson doesn't always get called), but really it underscores that the NFL has just become impossibly silly with rules. Even stuff that's always existed, like in that game Seattle got called for a formation penalty because an offensive tackle wasn't covered at the line. Why is that a rule? Genuinely curious what advantage that gives the offense that we need to legislate and monitor it. And that's not even controversial stuff like the catch/not a catch madness.

 

It serves a couple purposes. An OT actually CAN be at the end of the line ON the line, but he is then an eligible receiver. In that case, he then has to report to the official as an eligible receiver, as he doesn't have a receiver's number (any eligible WR, TE, RB, QB number). But the advantage it gives the offense is that it means they can have an extra player in the backfield. 7 guys are required to be on the offensive line of scrimmage on every play. If the OT as at the end of the line on one side, that means no WR or TE is. And only 1 WR/TE can be at the end of the line on the opposite side (actually, you can have as many people you want on the LOS but only the very end guys on each side are eligible to receive a pass), so the offense then can get away with an extra player in the backfield and the defense does not then have the ability to press that player off the line of scrimmage.

 

Complicated, but it makes sense.

 

That's a long way to to go for 'it's not fair if there aren't at least 2 jammable receivers out of 5 potential eligible receivers'. It might have made more sense in the environment where the rule was created, but today that's not a compelling enough reason to have the rule to me.

[rawaction]

I haven't watched the Seattle vs Pittsburgh game, but my Facebook is blowing up with people saying the refs were decidedly pro-Seattle

 

I started watching early in the 4th and think they generally got the calls right(although the unnecessary roughness in shoving Wilson doesn't always get called), but really it underscores that the NFL has just become impossibly silly with rules. Even stuff that's always existed, like in that game Seattle got called for a formation penalty because an offensive tackle wasn't covered at the line. Why is that a rule? Genuinely curious what advantage that gives the offense that we need to legislate and monitor it. And that's not even controversial stuff like the catch/not a catch madness.

 

It serves a couple purposes. An OT actually CAN be at the end of the line ON the line, but he is then an eligible receiver. In that case, he then has to report to the official as an eligible receiver, as he doesn't have a receiver's number (any eligible WR, TE, RB, QB number). But the advantage it gives the offense is that it means they can have an extra player in the backfield. 7 guys are required to be on the offensive line of scrimmage on every play. If the OT as at the end of the line on one side, that means no WR or TE is. And only 1 WR/TE can be at the end of the line on the opposite side (actually, you can have as many people you want on the LOS but only the very end guys on each side are eligible to receive a pass), so the offense then can get away with an extra player in the backfield and the defense does not then have the ability to press that player off the line of scrimmage.

 

Complicated, but it makes sense.

 

That's a long way to to go for 'it's not fair if there aren't at least 2 jammable receivers out of 5 potential eligible receivers'. It might have made more sense in the environment where the rule was created, but today that's not a compelling enough reason to have the rule to me.

 

You could really create confusion on the defense and matchup problems. But yeah, I think this rule was more useful in the wishbone offense days.

[kujay]

The Chiefs are a Seahawks win from being tied for the 1st wild card, plus they hold tiebreakers over Pittsburgh, Buffalo, & Houston and all 5 remaining games are against below .500 teams. Pretty remarkable to be in that position after starting 1-5.

 

Yeah they were never as bad as they played in those games after that crushing Denver loss.

 

That remaining schedule is cake too. If they beat Oakland on the road this week they'll run the table. Only other road game is Baltimore.

[Derwood]

Browniest loss in Browns history

[UMFan83]

JFC Browns, that's bad even for you.

 

Then again as a Michigan fan I shouldn't laugh

[Old Style]

That ending last night was awesome.

[Soul]

The factory of sadness produced another gem.

[NonProfitCow]

I had bet a decent chunk on the Ravens -3.5

 

I was very, very happy.