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By this time next week Sharp will be gone. I hear Washington wants him. If Troy Brouwer got a 1st, I would have to think the Hawks can at least get that.

I think the Rangers should try and get him.

 

 

Yeah that would be a good fit. As long as he goes to the East or a crappy west team.

I'm still curious how many players the Hawks can send to Winnipeg before they stop being a crappy west team.

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Been busy with work and travel and such, so haven't had a ton of time to post -- but damn, what a season! 3 in 6 is amazing. (Haven't missed watching a game in a long time, though -- DVRs are wonderful.)

 

I love Corey Crawford. He's an above average/ borderline elite level goalie. But if you get blown away and have reasonable confidence in Darling, you make the deal. I mean, if you can get a young, good D-man (like a Nick Leddy), or a young power forward, I think you have to make the deal -- it relieves cap pressure, and possibly upgrades the roster. It really depends on how you feel about the upper level AHL players and their potential (and no one knows how the Blackhawks feel, to be fair). In cap era, it's hard to justify paying a goalie a huge percentage of your cap. That said, Darling is on a great, team-friendly deal at $587,500. Together Crawford and Darling make $6,587,500. Less than 10%. I just believe, personally, in the model that focuses on a strong D and strong forwards up the middle, rather than a huge investment in a goalie (in the cap-constrained NHL). This isn't an attack on Crawford, it's just the reality of the NHL cap -- you can't keep everyone, and you have to prioritize.

 

Looking to the RFAs... Saad and Kruger (and Nordstrom, but no one cares all that much) are going to get resigned. The window for offer sheets isn't until after the draft, and I bet they are both signed by the draft (or very shortly thereafter). Both are incredibly important to the effectiveness of this team. Kruger is really underrated because of his role as the shut-down center, and there isn't anyone yet to fill that void (Phillip Danault is the likely successor, but he's just about to graduate to the NHL and needs seasoning). And, Saad... well, I don't think his importance needs explanation, does it?

 

In terms of trades, (or giveaways)... just like in '10 when we knew that Byfuglien, Ladd, and others were leaving, so we know that Sharp, Bickell, and Versteeg are almost certainly all gone. Clearing the three of them will relieve $12.1M of salary. I don't think there will be that much turnover, all in all, other than these three and letting UFAs like Vermette, Roszival, Desjardins, etc. leave. Rumors have the cap number at $71M, but the Blackhawks will leave a themselves a little under as they always do -- let's say they'll spend to $70M, conservatively. Let's also assume that the Hawks get only draft picks back -- no entry-level deals or prospects.

 

New Core: $52M (actually a little under at $51.965, but we'll round up.)

Toews, C -- $10.5M

Kane, RW -- $10.5M

Hossa, RW -- $5.275M

Saad, LW -- $4.25M (RFA, just guessing here...)

Keith, D -- $5.54M

Seabrook, D -- $5.8M

Hjalmarsson, D -- $4.1M (this is an amazing deal at $4.1M through 2018-2019, btw, holy crap).

Crawford , G -- $6M

 

Under contract: $8.52M

Kruger, C -- $2.5M (RFA, just guessing here...)

Shaw, RW -- $2M

Teravainen, C -- $895K

Panarin, LW -- $813K

Van Riemsdyk, D -- $925K

Darling, G -- $588K

Nordstrom, LW -- $800K

 

That leaves about $9.4M for the rest of the roster. There are 14 players under contract, leaving 8-9 to sign. I think Brad Richards comes back for another team-friendly $2M deal -- he's getting paid $8.5M by the Rangers under the buyout, so he can play wherever he wants for whatever he wants. He likes being in Chicago, and he and Kane like playing together. I think it very likely that you'll see the Hawks have Toews, Richards, Teravainen, Kruger down the middle, with Danault coming up to fill in on the 4th line wing spot and learn Kruger's role (and that line should be Danault-Kruger-Shaw). McNeill comes up for the RW next to Finnish Cold. The system is a bit weak at LW, so I'd bet that any targets they have in trade are LW (since Sharp, Versteeg, and Bickell are being jettisoned).

 

Potential signings/promotions: $4.53M

Richards, C -- $2M

Danault, LW -- $863K

McNeill, RW -- $863K

Johns, D -- $800K

 

From here, there is roughly $4.87M left. So, some wiggle room for Saad and Kruger. Setting aside the question of who of Johns/Pokka/Paliotta (and maybe Reilly if they sign him) make the roster playing D, and who among Danault/McNeill/Hartman/Ross make the team, (all this keeping in mind that there could be a draft pick that ascends to the roster, or an entry-level player acquired via trade who makes the team) several players from that list could make the team, and their cap hits are all under $1M. So, in this scenario, there is room for Oduya to come back for $3-3.5M, but I don't know if he would take that deal. And after next season you need to budget some money for Seabrook to come back, and Shaw is also a RFA (but I think he can be replaced fairly easily... but if he's willing to stay at $2-3M, you keep him) without a huge rise in the cap. So, Oduya is probably gone, and you may see a veteran d-man, like Roszival (but not necessarily Roszival) signed in the $2M range. Ideally, you'd want a puck-moving d-man to complement Hjalmarsson since you have the hulking Johns ready to move up. Maybe Pokka makes the jump.

 

Looking at the lines:

 

Panarin - Toews - Hossa

Saad - Richards - Kane

Nordstrom - Teuvo - McNeill

Danault - Kruger - Shaw

 

Keith - Seabrook

? - Hjalmarsson

Johns - TVR

 

Crawford/Darling

 

I think the LW is a little weak, the #4 d-man role isn't locked down, and they'll sign another veteran for injury protection and press box wrangling (could easily be Carcillo or Desjardins). My bet is that Bowman's trade focus right now is on a good, fairly inexpensive d-man to play the puck-moving role alongside Hjalmarsson (bonus for left-handed shot), as well as someone with more experience to help out Teuvo on the left. If they can sign Hobey Baker finalist Mike Reilly (available on the same loophole that made Kevin Hayes available to the Rangers)... that would make the focus more on the LW role for Teuvo.

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Salary Cap for 2015-16 is set at 71.4 million.

 

That's definitely a good thing since people were speculating between 70-71m, its at the high end of that.

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Yeah could have been a lot worse, but then again Bettman at the winter classic said closer to 73 million. Next year should be interesting if the Canadian dollar continues to remain at 75 cents on the dollar or worse.
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The inevitable is approaching fast

 

http://thehockeywriters.com/top-4-potential-patrick-sharp-destinations/

4. Edmonton Oilers

3. Florida Panthers

2. Washington Capitals

1. New York Islanders

This is absurd

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Yeah that seems nuts. Especially considering that everyone knows the Hawks need to deal him. I bet it just ends up being a first round pick.

I really don't think Sharp is worth a first round pick either but then again teams are dumb and Troy Brouwer got a first round pick when the Blackhawks dumped him. If the Blackhawks get any sort of package like the one mentioned above, they're probably gonna win like 4 more Cups.

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There's no harm in asking for a ransom. Teams are still gonna be lining up to show interest. Only takes one team. Two of those three things would be great still- but at the end up the day they'll still get one even if they have to move him late in the season.
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top 6 forward on a entry level is stupid.

 

Yeah I'm too lazy to find the tweet (and there were many that was ripping this report apart), but if that's true, we're essentially asking for a younger Patrick Sharp, and then two more future Patrick Sharps.

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top 6 forward on a entry level is stupid.

 

Yeah I'm too lazy to find the tweet (and there were many that was ripping this report apart), but if that's true, we're essentially asking for a younger Patrick Sharp, and then two more future Patrick Sharps.

 

Place Sharp in the mystery box before you offer.

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Looks like the NHL will vote on going to 3 on 3 OT for 5 minutes. I understand they want to eliminate the shootout as much as possible but this appears to be almost as big a gimmick as the shootout.
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Looks like the NHL will vote on going to 3 on 3 OT for 5 minutes. I understand they want to eliminate the shootout as much as possible but this appears to be almost as big a gimmick as the shootout.

 

Sure, but at least it's something resembling hockey. It's a better gimmick than the shootout, imo.

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Looks like the NHL will vote on going to 3 on 3 OT for 5 minutes. I understand they want to eliminate the shootout as much as possible but this appears to be almost as big a gimmick as the shootout.

 

Sure, but at least it's something resembling hockey. It's a better gimmick than the shootout, imo.

What would be the main disadvantage of just calling a tie and splitting the two points?

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Looks like the NHL will vote on going to 3 on 3 OT for 5 minutes. I understand they want to eliminate the shootout as much as possible but this appears to be almost as big a gimmick as the shootout.

 

Sure, but at least it's something resembling hockey. It's a better gimmick than the shootout, imo.

What would be the main disadvantage of just calling a tie and splitting the two points?

 

General American dislike for ties.

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Looks like the NHL will vote on going to 3 on 3 OT for 5 minutes. I understand they want to eliminate the shootout as much as possible but this appears to be almost as big a gimmick as the shootout.

 

Sure, but at least it's something resembling hockey. It's a better gimmick than the shootout, imo.

What would be the main disadvantage of just calling a tie and splitting the two points?

 

 

Because 'Muricans hate ties. There just has to be a "winner" and a 'loser' in a regular season game in October. Even if it means doing a coinflip(shootout) or playing 3 on 3.

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ties are stupid. it's not a sport if there is no clear winner

 

 

How is there a clear winner with shootouts?

because one team wins and the other team loses

 

 

By not playing hockey?

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