2015 Bears Offseason (Foxy new Head Coach page 104)

[UMFan83]

Judging by reactions here, sounds like a pretty meh PC to me.

 

It was fine. No Joe Maddon or Theo, but I'd say it was positive.

 

Yeah that's the other thing. The last front office/managerial press conference we watched was Maddon's where he charmed the pants off of everyone. Hard to live up to that.

[ctcf]

Obviously he didn't watch the Lester presser or he would have known to have his daughter charge the stage at some point.

[RynoRules]

hate that he fed into that hard nosed defense in bear weather rhetoric crap

 

seems to really affect green bay

 

Part of the gig is to pacify the majority of the fan base. It doesn't necessarily dictate what he will do. We'll see.

[Guest]

Briggs on ESPN. Apparently Trestman did away with team captains this year, tried to do it his first year but Briggs, Peanut, and Garza fought to keep the year one

[ctcf]

670 The Score @670TheScore

Ted Phillips said Ryan Pace can structure the department, build a staff as he desires. "He has total control over the football operations."

[jersey cubs fan]

Briggs on ESPN. Apparently Trestman did away with team captains this year, tried to do it his first year but Briggs, Peanut, and Garza fought to keep the year one

there were rotating captains each game, right?

[Guest]

Briggs on ESPN. Apparently Trestman did away with team captains this year, tried to do it his first year but Briggs, Peanut, and Garza fought to keep the year one

there were rotating captains each game, right?

That's what Briggs said. Don't remember hearing it before this... Just weird

[jersey cubs fan]

670 The Score @670TheScore

Ted Phillips said Ryan Pace can structure the department, build a staff as he desires. "He has total control over the football operations."

 

But he has to report into Ted...

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

Briggs on ESPN. Apparently Trestman did away with team captains this year, tried to do it his first year but Briggs, Peanut, and Garza fought to keep the year one

there were rotating captains each game, right?

That's what Briggs said. Don't remember hearing it before this... Just weird

 

Oh I remember. They made a big deal about who went out for the coin toss each game.

[Guest]

670 The Score @670TheScore

Ted Phillips said Ryan Pace can structure the department, build a staff as he desires. "He has total control over the football operations."

 

I'm not one of the people worried about what the official hierarchy is, but I do wish they would've just done the two presidents titles (business/football) thing and avoided the "Pace answers to Phillips" answer at the PC just to shut this concern up.

Edited January 9, 2015 by David

[ctcf]

670 The Score @670TheScore

Ted Phillips said Ryan Pace can structure the department, build a staff as he desires. "He has total control over the football operations."

 

I'm not one of the people worried about what the official hierarchy is, but I do wish they would've just done the two president's titles (business/football) thing and avoided the "Pace answers to Phillips" answer at the PC just to shut this concern up.

 

This is pretty much where I'm at, too. If they say he has complete control of Football Ops, I'm not gonna worry about it until I'm given an actual reason to.

[Guest]

I'm not worried about Phillips making football decisions directly. Never have been. But he's still ultimately responsible for firing, extending, etc.

[Guest]

Adam Hoge ‏@AdamHoge 12m12 minutes ago

Ted Phillips, with a laugh: “You all have convinced me I’m not a football guy.”

[Guest]

I'm not worried about Phillips making football decisions directly. Never have been. But he's still ultimately responsible for firing, extending, etc.

 

Who cares? Is George McCaskey some huge upgrade from him in this regard?

 

Because if he's fired (or demoted from those duties) McCaskey either hires the replacement or does it himself.

[Guest]

I'm not worried about Phillips making football decisions directly. Never have been. But he's still ultimately responsible for firing, extending, etc.

 

Who cares? Is George McCaskey some huge upgrade from him in this regard?

 

Because if he's fired (or demoted from those duties) McCaskey either hires the replacement or does it himself.

I'm not sure about McCaskey. I am fairly confident about Phillips though. Of course another outsider was an option too.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not worried about Phillips making football decisions directly. Never have been. But he's still ultimately responsible for firing, extending, etc.

 

Who cares? Is George McCaskey some huge upgrade from him in this regard?

 

Because if he's fired (or demoted from those duties) McCaskey either hires the replacement or does it himself.

I'm not sure about McCaskey. I am fairly confident about Phillips though. Of course another outsider was an option too.

 

The football guy to oversee the football game is needlessly convoluted. It's just another hire for them to screw up.

 

 

If the next coach is successful he is the guy who will end up with the power. That's how this league works.

[Guest]

I'm not worried about Phillips making football decisions directly. Never have been. But he's still ultimately responsible for firing, extending, etc.

 

Who cares? Is George McCaskey some huge upgrade from him in this regard?

 

Because if he's fired (or demoted from those duties) McCaskey either hires the replacement or does it himself.

I'm not sure about McCaskey. I am fairly confident about Phillips though. Of course another outsider was an option too.

 

The football guy to oversee the football game is needlessly convoluted. It's just another hire for them to screw up.

 

 

If the next coach is successful he is the guy who will end up with the power. That's how this league works.

Not necessarily another football guy. Though another football guy as defacto GM but with title of pres ala Theo was an option too.

 

Of course an established head coach who was at the top of the chain from the start was always an option too.

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Briggs on ESPN. Apparently Trestman did away with team captains this year, tried to do it his first year but Briggs, Peanut, and Garza fought to keep the year one

there were rotating captains each game, right?

That's what Briggs said. Don't remember hearing it before this... Just weird

 

Oh I remember. They made a big deal about who went out for the coin toss each game.

 

Subtly a pretty bad move if it even remotely matters at all (debatable). No accountability was kind of a theme for this year. I don't know if nobody felt like a leader (or felt like they had a leader) because of lack of captains.

[jersey cubs fan]

Not necessarily another football guy. Though another football guy as defacto GM but with title of pres ala Theo was an option too.

 

Of course an established head coach who was at the top of the chain from the start was always an option too.

 

As you know, there were no Theos. There really aren't theo-types in the league, and there are none available. Likewise, there was only one top of the food chain HC around and that is Mike Shanahan.

[Guest]

I'm not sure there's really a Theo in the MLB either. But there are established FO men with established track records of success.

 

My concern is if the first 4 years have mixed results what will Phillips look for to determine if the direction is still the right one? If years 1-3 are poor but year 4 great does he know whether it's the effects of the right path or just a fluke year? To some extent you have to be prepared to look at something besides WL results from a short term perspective. And Phillips being admittedly a little clueless there but still being the guy in charge of hiring/firing just leaves me concerned, even if the alternative is unknown like McCaskey. Though I think an established sports executive without football experience could be a candidate at pres too.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure there's really a Theo in the MLB either. But there are established FO men with established track records of success.

 

My concern is if the first 4 years have mixed results what will Phillips look for to determine if the direction is still the right one? If years 1-3 are poor but year 4 great does he know whether it's the effects of the right path or just a fluke year? To some extent you have to be prepared to look at something besides WL results from a short term perspective. And Phillips being admittedly a little clueless there but still being the guy in charge of hiring/firing just leaves me concerned, even if the alternative is unknown like McCaskey. Though I think an established sports executive without football experience could be a candidate at pres too.

 

Like most nfl teams "mixed results" after 4 years is going to lead to the status quo. The GM may have a chance to hire a new HC, but stability is preferred and as long as they avoid disaster seasons, they will stay. That's just how the NFL works. The alternative is a Snyder situation where turnover is the norm, or if there is a change in ownership.

[Guest]

Even just looking at the Emery results... Before a lot of the disfunction leaked the word was Emery, even Trestman was back - kind of looked just like a blip and he exited with about a .500 record. However all the crazy stuff was still going on and should have been a leading indicator and from the fan viewpoint it took kind of some extreme event and all the embarrassment to really facilitate change. Now I'll admit maybe the early reports were wrong and they were prepared to move on from Emery much earlier, but that's not the general consensus.

[UMFan83]

I'm not sure there's really a Theo in the MLB either. But there are established FO men with established track records of success.

 

My concern is if the first 4 years have mixed results what will Phillips look for to determine if the direction is still the right one? If years 1-3 are poor but year 4 great does he know whether it's the effects of the right path or just a fluke year? To some extent you have to be prepared to look at something besides WL results from a short term perspective. And Phillips being admittedly a little clueless there but still being the guy in charge of hiring/firing just leaves me concerned, even if the alternative is unknown like McCaskey. Though I think an established sports executive without football experience could be a candidate at pres too.

 

Well George has made it a point to say that unless he has to he does not mettle in football operations (Obviously he had to this year though). If Pace was reporting directly to George maybe his leash is a little longer, who knows. That's probably a stretch though. Other than that, if Phillips says he has full control over football operations and Ted is just there to fire him or extend him depending on how he does, then its nothing to worry about.

[Guest]

So what's the metric to determine how he does? Just WL?

[minnesotacubsfan]

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