Week 15: Bad (5-8) @ Indifference (5-8) MNF

[Butterscup1679666578]

The whole staff and front office has to go. Embarrassing.

[gscool89]

The whole staff and front office has to go. Embarrassing.

Just when the Cubs and White Sox make you forget about how dysfunctional the Bears organization is..

[Guest]

Wonder if this is what it is

 

Jay Zawaski ‏@JayZawaski670 3m3 minutes ago

This Kromer story...my God. Please, please just blow up this whole group. Emery, Trestman and staff. Total disaster. http://trib.in/1sn6O6G

[UMFan83]

I agree with Bernstein. The McKaskeys are frugal and very slow to make changes, but they don't stand for their organization being embarrassed like this off the field. This is just one glaring case of a woefully overmatched coaching staff.

[jersey cubs fan]

Kromer cried?

 

 

No wonder jay shook his head.

 

Kroner was the one guy I thought was a legit nfl coach. This staff blows.

[WrigleyField 22]

Great timing on this article lol

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/12/10/the-coaching-path-of-chicago-bears-offensive-coordinator-aaron-kromer/a3s711h/?page=1

[rawaction]

This is the problem with a veteran team not winning. Regardless of what they say, every veteran in that lockerroom was either there last year when they were a 4th down stop away from the playoffs, or came to Chicago because they thought this team could be a serious contender. They read the media hype or saw it on TV. When things go wrong, there's going to be more frustration because of said expectations. Fingers are going to be pointed.

 

I don't know if this team can take a spring off and come back together like nothing ever happened with the same group of players and coaching staff (for the most part).

[UMFan83]

Amazing that Kromer managed to make Jay Cutler a sympathetic figure nationally

[Wilson A2000]

Do you guys want Cutler gone in addition to Emery, Trestman, and Phillips?

[UMFan83]

So Kromer has to be gone. No way he can rebuild trust with this team. Tucker is almost certainly to be gone as per rumors. No buzz about DeCamilis but come on the guy doesn't deserve to keep his job.

 

So I ask this: how many times has a head coach canned their coordinators of all 3 units and still kept their job?

[WrigleyField 22]

So Kromer has to be gone. No way he can rebuild trust with this team. Tucker is almost certainly to be gone as per rumors. No buzz about DeCamilis but come on the guy doesn't deserve to keep his job.

 

So I ask this: how many times has a head coach canned their coordinators of all 3 units and still kept their job?

Exactly my thought.

 

 

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[kujay]

There's gonna be a basket full of heads in a few weeks. What a joke of an organization.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Do you guys want Cutler gone in addition to Emery, Trestman, and Phillips?

 

No.

[JonJayCutler]

LOL

 

You know it's bad when you can't name one non-player in the entire organization that you'd like to keep around.

 

It makes me absolutely SICK to think we could have had Arians.

[WrigleyField 22]

If this ends up getting Trestman canned I'll be forever thankful to Kromer...

 

So thanks?

 

 

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[Guest]

So Kromer has to be gone. No way he can rebuild trust with this team. Tucker is almost certainly to be gone as per rumors. No buzz about DeCamilis but come on the guy doesn't deserve to keep his job.

 

So I ask this: how many times has a head coach canned their coordinators of all 3 units and still kept their job?

 

Exactly. Trestman has to be done if all his coordinators are gone.

[rawaction]

So Kromer has to be gone. No way he can rebuild trust with this team. Tucker is almost certainly to be gone as per rumors. No buzz about DeCamilis but come on the guy doesn't deserve to keep his job.

 

So I ask this: how many times has a head coach canned their coordinators of all 3 units and still kept their job?

 

Exactly. Trestman has to be done if all his coordinators are gone.

 

Bigger issue to me is how do you let a GM, who hired an outside the box coach to hire another coach. Emery is NOT getting fired. But I'd almost rather see another disasterous season next year with Trestman than have him hire an Australian rules football coach who's well regarded as a toughness guru.

[WrigleyField 22]

Talk about exaggeration... Slow down there raw.

 

Do you really not think Emery has the capacity to learn from the Trestman hire? To take another example GarPax had a really surprising hire with Vinny Del Negro. A guy who came in and wowed in an interview and supposedly showed a encyclopedia of offensive material. Then he proved to not know the X's and O's or manage a team. They did much better the next go around.

 

 

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[Brian707]

When will Virginia die? Nothing will really change much until that happens(the kids selling the team to Ryan).

 

What a joke, they can fire Trestman, even Emery(which I doubt) but the big picture will never change.

[UMFan83]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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[UMFan83]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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Trying to be smarter is picking a projected 3rd or 4th round undersized DE in the first round, or turning down the reigning coach of the year to hire a guy that spent the better part of a decade coaching in an inferior football league that was on absolutely no one's radar. Those aren't just little risks, those are career defining gambles.

[UMFan83]

Anyways, Barnwell speculates on a Cutler trade:

 

Jay Cutler, Chicago

 

Why Trade: It’s possible they want to blow up the damn thing and totally rebuild in Chicago. I wrote in 2012 about how Cutler is never going to be the player people want him to be, that he’ll always be the guy with the impressive highs and the frustrating lows and the same body language that fills a million column inches. Cutler actually hasn’t been much worse in 2014 than he was in 2013 — his passer rating is actually up 2.5 points — but the disappointing nature of Chicago’s season has led some Bears fans to point the finger at their starting quarterback.

 

Anonymous sources from inside Chicago’s front office suggest that the Bears have a serious case of buyer’s remorse, and that they would like to move on from the final six years remaining in Cutler’s seven-year, $126 million contract. As I mentioned earlier, cutting Cutler would be cost-prohibitive and impossible to justify. If the Bears want to move on from Cutler, the only way to do so before 2017 would be via trade.

 

The Savings: The Bears would have $4 million in dead money on their cap in 2015 with a trade but would save $12.5 million versus what they would pay Cutler to stay on the team. In addition, if they trade him before March, they wouldn’t be responsible for any of Cutler’s guarantees in 2016, which are likely to rise to $16 million. Cutler’s new team would have its starting quarterback on what basically amounts to a two-year, $31.5 million deal with four one-year options ranging between $12.5 million and $19.2 million.

 

The Market: If the Bears did decide to deal Cutler, he would likely be the most-talented and best-regarded quarterback on the market, with the usual quarterback-hungry suspects like the Jets, Texans, and Titans all interested. Teams picking in the top 10 wouldn’t likely give up a 2015 first-rounder for Cutler, and he won’t require the haul the Bears gave up to acquire Cutler in 2009.3 A team like Tennessee would more likely agree to a deal that includes a 2015 second-rounder and a future second-rounder that would turn into a first-rounder if Cutler and/or his new team hit certain thresholds of success.

 

There’s one dark horse that doesn’t make a lot of sense but entertains me: What if Cutler went to the Browns? I strongly doubt that the Browns are ready to move on from Johnny Manziel, who will make his first start this weekend, but there have at least been rumors this year that some members of the Cleveland organization have been disappointed with how he has prepared. Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan wasn’t with his dad in Denver when Mike Shanahan drafted Cutler, but you have to figure they have some similarities in how they scout and judge quarterbacks. If the Bears are going to blow things up, getting Manziel back as part of a trade would at least give them an interesting option under center.

 

I doubt that Cutler will end up getting traded, if only because the Bears won’t be in a great spot to replace him.

 

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick?

[Mark Priors Calves]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

[UMFan83]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

 

He probably wasn't even the source, he just wants off this [expletive] team.