Week 15: Bad (5-8) @ Indifference (5-8) MNF

[WrigleyField 22]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

Trying to be smarter is picking a projected 3rd or 4th round undersized DE in the first round, or turning down the reigning coach of the year to hire a guy that spent the better part of a decade coaching in an inferior football league that was on absolutely no one's radar. Those aren't just little risks, those are career defining gambles.

 

I agree they are career defining. But people are glossing over that Shea was a late riser amongst the draft chatter. Yea he was a 3rd or 4th rounder in December, but not April. It's just a failure. There's no additional context needed and frankly goes hand in hand with the meatball opinion that Emery is just a nerd and nerds don't have a place in the NFL. Bring back Ditka baby!

 

Similar thing with Trestman. He was a bit out of the blue, but actually I believe Indy and Cleveland both previously showed interest. Whatever those teams didn't see, Emery did see, but again there isn't additional context needed. He failed at the hire and there's no "nerd was trying to show how smart he was" context. It's concerning, but its noise that doesn't really mean anything.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

Anyways, Barnwell speculates on a Cutler trade:

 

Jay Cutler, Chicago

 

Why Trade: It’s possible they want to blow up the damn thing and totally rebuild in Chicago. I wrote in 2012 about how Cutler is never going to be the player people want him to be, that he’ll always be the guy with the impressive highs and the frustrating lows and the same body language that fills a million column inches. Cutler actually hasn’t been much worse in 2014 than he was in 2013 — his passer rating is actually up 2.5 points — but the disappointing nature of Chicago’s season has led some Bears fans to point the finger at their starting quarterback.

 

Anonymous sources from inside Chicago’s front office suggest that the Bears have a serious case of buyer’s remorse, and that they would like to move on from the final six years remaining in Cutler’s seven-year, $126 million contract. As I mentioned earlier, cutting Cutler would be cost-prohibitive and impossible to justify. If the Bears want to move on from Cutler, the only way to do so before 2017 would be via trade.

 

The Savings: The Bears would have $4 million in dead money on their cap in 2015 with a trade but would save $12.5 million versus what they would pay Cutler to stay on the team. In addition, if they trade him before March, they wouldn’t be responsible for any of Cutler’s guarantees in 2016, which are likely to rise to $16 million. Cutler’s new team would have its starting quarterback on what basically amounts to a two-year, $31.5 million deal with four one-year options ranging between $12.5 million and $19.2 million.

 

The Market: If the Bears did decide to deal Cutler, he would likely be the most-talented and best-regarded quarterback on the market, with the usual quarterback-hungry suspects like the Jets, Texans, and Titans all interested. Teams picking in the top 10 wouldn’t likely give up a 2015 first-rounder for Cutler, and he won’t require the haul the Bears gave up to acquire Cutler in 2009.3 A team like Tennessee would more likely agree to a deal that includes a 2015 second-rounder and a future second-rounder that would turn into a first-rounder if Cutler and/or his new team hit certain thresholds of success.

 

There’s one dark horse that doesn’t make a lot of sense but entertains me: What if Cutler went to the Browns? I strongly doubt that the Browns are ready to move on from Johnny Manziel, who will make his first start this weekend, but there have at least been rumors this year that some members of the Cleveland organization have been disappointed with how he has prepared. Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan wasn’t with his dad in Denver when Mike Shanahan drafted Cutler, but you have to figure they have some similarities in how they scout and judge quarterbacks. If the Bears are going to blow things up, getting Manziel back as part of a trade would at least give them an interesting option under center.

 

I doubt that Cutler will end up getting traded, if only because the Bears won’t be in a great spot to replace him.

 

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick?

My minimum return for Cutler is a Alex Smith like return. But it's contingent on having a capable replacement or identifying a guy you want to draft within the first three picks.

 

Manziel and a third or something would be interesting. I'm not convinced on Manziel as an NFL QB though I'd defer to the scouts and experts if they thought he was.

 

If we do get a new coaching staff though if lean towards trying to make it work with Cutler for another season or two until a replacement was developed.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, hearing walking [expletive] David Kaplan screaming once again this morning about how they need to dump everyone, including Cutler, is so frustrating. Cutler isn't the answer, but you also can't just toss him out when there's nobody behind him and no option in the draft.

 

And I agree, all of the "hipster GM/coach" digs are beyond stupid. Bad is just bad.

[Mark Priors Calves]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean.

 

If it's the latter, he committed career suicide because of guilt.

[WrigleyField 22]

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8820776&src=desktop

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/chicago-bears-embattled-head-coach-marc-trestman-was-almost-colts-problem

 

http://forums.colts.com/topic/4708-marc-trestman/

 

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1161940-2012-nfl-mock-draft-final-two-round-projection

 

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2012smcclellin.php

 

If I were to formulate a hot take of Emery's biggest failures it would be more "dummy gets duped by late risers" rather than "nerd tries to outsmart the competition". The latter actually is probably worse but if we're gonna hot take, let's do it right.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean.

 

If it's the latter, he committed career suicide because of guilt.

He's killed any future OC or HC possibilities, but he'll definitely land on his feet as a OL coach. I do think he was outed though, but guilt/pride would be the only other possibility. Like "your saying there's a chance" possibility.

 

 

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[CubsInNC]

Anyways, Barnwell speculates on a Cutler trade:

 

Jay Cutler, Chicago

 

Why Trade: It’s possible they want to blow up the damn thing and totally rebuild in Chicago. I wrote in 2012 about how Cutler is never going to be the player people want him to be, that he’ll always be the guy with the impressive highs and the frustrating lows and the same body language that fills a million column inches. Cutler actually hasn’t been much worse in 2014 than he was in 2013 — his passer rating is actually up 2.5 points — but the disappointing nature of Chicago’s season has led some Bears fans to point the finger at their starting quarterback.

 

Anonymous sources from inside Chicago’s front office suggest that the Bears have a serious case of buyer’s remorse, and that they would like to move on from the final six years remaining in Cutler’s seven-year, $126 million contract. As I mentioned earlier, cutting Cutler would be cost-prohibitive and impossible to justify. If the Bears want to move on from Cutler, the only way to do so before 2017 would be via trade.

 

The Savings: The Bears would have $4 million in dead money on their cap in 2015 with a trade but would save $12.5 million versus what they would pay Cutler to stay on the team. In addition, if they trade him before March, they wouldn’t be responsible for any of Cutler’s guarantees in 2016, which are likely to rise to $16 million. Cutler’s new team would have its starting quarterback on what basically amounts to a two-year, $31.5 million deal with four one-year options ranging between $12.5 million and $19.2 million.

 

The Market: If the Bears did decide to deal Cutler, he would likely be the most-talented and best-regarded quarterback on the market, with the usual quarterback-hungry suspects like the Jets, Texans, and Titans all interested. Teams picking in the top 10 wouldn’t likely give up a 2015 first-rounder for Cutler, and he won’t require the haul the Bears gave up to acquire Cutler in 2009.3 A team like Tennessee would more likely agree to a deal that includes a 2015 second-rounder and a future second-rounder that would turn into a first-rounder if Cutler and/or his new team hit certain thresholds of success.

 

There’s one dark horse that doesn’t make a lot of sense but entertains me: What if Cutler went to the Browns? I strongly doubt that the Browns are ready to move on from Johnny Manziel, who will make his first start this weekend, but there have at least been rumors this year that some members of the Cleveland organization have been disappointed with how he has prepared. Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan wasn’t with his dad in Denver when Mike Shanahan drafted Cutler, but you have to figure they have some similarities in how they scout and judge quarterbacks. If the Bears are going to blow things up, getting Manziel back as part of a trade would at least give them an interesting option under center.

 

I doubt that Cutler will end up getting traded, if only because the Bears won’t be in a great spot to replace him.

 

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick?

My minimum return for Cutler is a Alex Smith like return. But it's contingent on having a capable replacement or identifying a guy you want to draft within the first three picks.

 

Manziel and a third or something would be interesting. I'm not convinced on Manziel as an NFL QB though I'd defer to the scouts and experts if they thought he was.

 

If we do get a new coaching staff though if lean towards trying to make it work with Cutler for another season or two until a replacement was developed.

 

 

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If they identify someone they like well enough in the first round, what about Jay (+ midround?) to the Redskins for their first? As a base framework, I could see something like that happening if Snyder gets on board the RGIII bust bus.

[Banedon]

The Cutler conversation is dumb. Cutler was the QB of the Bears when they were a knee injury away from a Super Bowl. It's proven that the team CAN win with him.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

[WrigleyField 22]

Anyways, Barnwell speculates on a Cutler trade:

 

Jay Cutler, Chicago

 

Why Trade: It’s possible they want to blow up the damn thing and totally rebuild in Chicago. I wrote in 2012 about how Cutler is never going to be the player people want him to be, that he’ll always be the guy with the impressive highs and the frustrating lows and the same body language that fills a million column inches. Cutler actually hasn’t been much worse in 2014 than he was in 2013 — his passer rating is actually up 2.5 points — but the disappointing nature of Chicago’s season has led some Bears fans to point the finger at their starting quarterback.

 

Anonymous sources from inside Chicago’s front office suggest that the Bears have a serious case of buyer’s remorse, and that they would like to move on from the final six years remaining in Cutler’s seven-year, $126 million contract. As I mentioned earlier, cutting Cutler would be cost-prohibitive and impossible to justify. If the Bears want to move on from Cutler, the only way to do so before 2017 would be via trade.

 

The Savings: The Bears would have $4 million in dead money on their cap in 2015 with a trade but would save $12.5 million versus what they would pay Cutler to stay on the team. In addition, if they trade him before March, they wouldn’t be responsible for any of Cutler’s guarantees in 2016, which are likely to rise to $16 million. Cutler’s new team would have its starting quarterback on what basically amounts to a two-year, $31.5 million deal with four one-year options ranging between $12.5 million and $19.2 million.

 

The Market: If the Bears did decide to deal Cutler, he would likely be the most-talented and best-regarded quarterback on the market, with the usual quarterback-hungry suspects like the Jets, Texans, and Titans all interested. Teams picking in the top 10 wouldn’t likely give up a 2015 first-rounder for Cutler, and he won’t require the haul the Bears gave up to acquire Cutler in 2009.3 A team like Tennessee would more likely agree to a deal that includes a 2015 second-rounder and a future second-rounder that would turn into a first-rounder if Cutler and/or his new team hit certain thresholds of success.

 

There’s one dark horse that doesn’t make a lot of sense but entertains me: What if Cutler went to the Browns? I strongly doubt that the Browns are ready to move on from Johnny Manziel, who will make his first start this weekend, but there have at least been rumors this year that some members of the Cleveland organization have been disappointed with how he has prepared. Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan wasn’t with his dad in Denver when Mike Shanahan drafted Cutler, but you have to figure they have some similarities in how they scout and judge quarterbacks. If the Bears are going to blow things up, getting Manziel back as part of a trade would at least give them an interesting option under center.

 

I doubt that Cutler will end up getting traded, if only because the Bears won’t be in a great spot to replace him.

 

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick?

My minimum return for Cutler is a Alex Smith like return. But it's contingent on having a capable replacement or identifying a guy you want to draft within the first three picks.

 

Manziel and a third or something would be interesting. I'm not convinced on Manziel as an NFL QB though I'd defer to the scouts and experts if they thought he was.

 

If we do get a new coaching staff though if lean towards trying to make it work with Cutler for another season or two until a replacement was developed.

 

 

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If they identify someone they like well enough in the first round, what about Jay (+ midround?) to the Redskins for their first? As a base framework, I could see something like that happening if Snyder gets on board the RGIII bust bus.

I don't know how you could turn down the Redskins first. Isn't that gonna be like top 3-5? A Redskins deal would probably more like their second, which is the type of pick KC gave up for Smith.

 

Depending on where both firsts end up a swap of QBs, a swap of firsts, and another pick or two headed our way perks my ears if dealing with the Skins. But even then I might be waiting until draft day and making that call based on who's there when the Redskins pick comes up.

 

There are like 12-14 teams still putting up worse DVOA from their QB than the Bears. About half have a young guy they are committed to or their own expensive vet, but there is still a strong QB market of 6 or so and only two consensus top picks. And Hoyer will headline the FA market. We shouldn't rush Jay out.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

 

This isn't an argument to support Emery; it's an argument against a lazy criticism of him.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

Hendry did end up putting together some good teams though...

 

The strength coach thing is so irrelevant and on par with the hipster GM meme.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

 

This isn't an argument to support Emery; it's an argument against a lazy criticism of him.

Exactly, I'm all for criticisms of his record. I have him a D a few weeks ago and am

Now considering an F with the latest debacle. But there's still some potential there. GMs are no more static than players in evaluations and projection has to be considered in conjunction with results.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

It's a simple analogy but right now Emery's grade is like at a midterm that had a paper, a project and a midterm test. He's an average student with some potential in 66% of the scoring and royally flunked the test when he had access to a dated cheat sheet that would have given him a C on the test. So he's failing, but not incapable of turning it around. I'm can handle waiting out the rest of the semester because I don't really know what else is out there and our president is probably hopeless.

 

 

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[Billy_Buck]

What prompted Kromer to address the team? Was he outed as a source?

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean.

 

If it's the latter, he committed career suicide because of guilt.

He's killed any future OC or HC possibilities, but he'll definitely land on his feet as a OL coach. I do think he was outed though, but guilt/pride would be the only other possibility. Like "your saying there's a chance" possibility.

Key pieces of evidence in Rapoport's original report were: 1) frustration with Cutler's play within the organization, 2) including the specific about his refusal to check out of "bad" run plays, 3) and consideration was given to benching Cutler at halftime of the TB game. Assuming all three have a basis in fact, there'd have to be a somewhat limited number of suspects, no?

 

#1 is common enough to be anyone, but I imagine management knows who are the most frustrated. I think it's unlikely that a Long or Forte would vent #2 to a reporter after a game, though I suppose it's possible. But if #3 is true and there was a discussion about sitting Cutler during a game, Trestman for one would presumably be part of the conversation, along with offensive coaches--and Kromer was plausibly even the one who initiated and argued for a switch--but the whole locker room wouldn't know. (If the D-line was clued in, this really is a cluster.) You'd expect the GM to be at least peripherally aware that the coaches could go to Plan "Pull Jay" if the offense sputtered (since at the time, they were still "fighting for the playoffs", yippee). I'd certainly think that he'd be informed/learn after the game that they had considered it.

 

So I suspect the FO recognized right off that it had to be one of a couple of coaches. If Trestman were confronted and adamantly denied, and Cavanaugh did same, Mr. OC would have nowhere to hide.

 

At any rate, I wish Mssrs. Kromer and Tucker best of luck in their future endeavors. It's been real.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

Hendry did end up putting together some good teams though...

 

The strength coach thing is so irrelevant and on par with the hipster GM meme.

 

 

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i think you are in denial of reality. Emery's outsider status with no connections to quality nfl people contributed to his horrible hiring. 3 years later and there is no indication anything has improved. If he is fired tomorrow he will never get a high profile gig again. He will ride off into the sunset as a scout. The Bears were the only team that would hire him and trestman and there is no reason to think that has since changed. Why should the Bears be the only team to keep employing him? He's been a disaster. This team is just an older less functional version of the one he inherited. O line is a mess. Offense is disappointing. Defense and special teams are both horrible. The entire coaching staff is awful.

[WrigleyField 22]

Out of curiosity I did a search for GM candidates a couple weeks ago. Not as popular of a topic as potential HC, but there's a few articles. The resumes of some of these guys were oddly close to Emery in 2012. Like just push every date of his NFL resume back 3 years.

 

Then it's a bunch of right hand men to current successful GMs. History isn't necessarily friendly to those types either though. It's a giant crap shoot with GMs with the marginal difference between most being slim and the number of guys with A grades and non elite QBs nearly zero.

 

If I thought Phillips was a it more capable I may feel differently but it's just a coin toss to me.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

I'm not ready to give up on Emery completely yet, but right now I don't have a particularly positive view of him. He has done some really nice things with this team and some spectacularly bad things. Almost every one of his gambles where he acts like he's smarter than everyone else has failed.

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure.

 

I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain.

 

 

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This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing.

Hendry did end up putting together some good teams though...

 

The strength coach thing is so irrelevant and on par with the hipster GM meme.

 

 

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i think you are in denial of reality. Emery's outsider status with no connections to quality nfl people contributed to his horrible hiring. 3 years later and there is no indication anything has improved. If he is fired tomorrow he will never get a high profile gig again. He will ride off into the sunset as a scout. The Bears were the only team that would hire him and trestman and there is no reason to think that has since changed. Why should the Bears be the only team to keep employing him? He's been a disaster. This team is just an older less functional version of the one he inherited. O line is a mess. Offense is disappointing. Defense and special teams are both horrible. The entire coaching staff is awful.

Your view of him as an outsider is odd. He's worked under 3-4 GMs and got his most recent job before the Bears due to recommendations within the FO circle.

 

Also not true is this team being older than the one he inherited.

 

Also not true is the Oline being a mess.

 

But keep preaching brother.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

It's a simple analogy but right now Emery's grade is like at a midterm that had a paper, a project and a midterm test. He's an average student with some potential in 66% of the scoring and royally flunked the test when he had access to a dated cheat sheet that would have given him a C on the test. So he's failing, but not incapable of turning it around. I'm can handle waiting out the rest of the semester because I don't really know what else is out there and our president is probably hopeless.

 

 

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It's not only not perfect it is completely wrong. 3 years isn't half a semester. Best case outcome of your example is ending the semester with a c+ anyway.

[jersey cubs fan]

The o line is not a mess? One good player and 4 others that have to be replaced. It sucks.

[WrigleyField 22]

It's a simple analogy but right now Emery's grade is like at a midterm that had a paper, a project and a midterm test. He's an average student with some potential in 66% of the scoring and royally flunked the test when he had access to a dated cheat sheet that would have given him a C on the test. So he's failing, but not incapable of turning it around. I'm can handle waiting out the rest of the semester because I don't really know what else is out there and our president is probably hopeless.

 

 

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It's not only not perfect it is completely wrong. 3 years isn't half a semester. Best case outcome of your example is ending the semester with a c+ anyway.

Nah if you ace the final the midterm is meaningless.

 

3 years is probably a pretty good approximation of GM half life as well. But I did say it was a simple analogy.

 

It's clear to me Emery fucked up his first hire. If he was as lacking in the other areas this team would be even worse than 5-8. Fix the coaching and Emery is suddenly an above average GM.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

The o line is not a mess? One good player and 4 others that have to be replaced. It sucks.

lol. Yea someone is out of touch with reality alright.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

The OL has stunk most of the year.

[WrigleyField 22]

The OL has stunk most of the year.

I look at the OLine as a weak link type of thing. It's stunk largely due to there constantly being one big hole.

 

It's true we only have one young building block type piece, but Bushrod and Slausson don't need to be replaced in 2015. And DLP is probably adequate to replace Garza. Or something around that talent level.

 

Huge difference between improving the line and revamping 80% of it.

 

 

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