Cubs 2015 Tentative Schedule

[seanimal]

Just booked a cheap hotel room for the weekend of 6/19-6/21 in Minneapolis. The Marriott City Center was only $129/night with no cancellation penalty until the day of. If you have any interest, might not be a bad idea. I'm excited!

 

i think i'm going to bring the fam up for that series as well, but i'm a hilton man myself

[chuckywang]

 

Baez isn't a Boras client and is different in that his developmental history suggests that calling him up when they did could have a substantial impact on how productive of a player he is for most of next year.

 

That and the fact that with Baez we're talking about an August call-up, not making the opening day roster with no prior service time. If we were talking about having called Bryant up to get a two month taste this year, that'd be more a bit more defensible than him making the opening day roster with no service time accrued yet when all you need to do to get an extra year out of him is wait a couple of weeks.

 

I can't imagine anyone who wants Bryant on the opening day roster wouldn't want him up now.

 

Well yeah, but you gotta delay his arbitration years....

[apete6]

Just booked a cheap hotel room for the weekend of 6/19-6/21 in Minneapolis. The Marriott City Center was only $129/night with no cancellation penalty until the day of. If you have any interest, might not be a bad idea. I'm excited!

 

i think i'm going to bring the fam up for that series as well, but i'm a hilton man myself

 

I generally don't care despite my work mandating Marriott, but that rate was excellent for downtown Minneapolis that weekend. Next best was ~$159 for anything above 2*.

[Guest]

I think I'll go to the season opener. Wife will be on spring break then so it should be easy.

 

When do tickets normally go on sale?

[jersey cubs fan]

I think I'll go to the season opener. Wife will be on spring break then so it should be easy.

 

When do tickets normally go on sale?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56700

 

this might tell you, but I think anywhere from late Feb to early March.

 

history indicates I've purchased tix on 2/22/08, 2/20/09 and 2/10/2010.

[Guest]

I think I'll go to the season opener. Wife will be on spring break then so it should be easy.

 

When do tickets normally go on sale?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56700

 

this might tell you, but I think anywhere from late Feb to early March.

 

history indicates I've purchased tix on 2/22/08, 2/20/09 and 2/10/2010.

Thanks!

[Sammys Boombox]

So in 2011 when we sucked, hard, we set the three game attendance record at the K. So of course every NL Central team is back here but us now. :banghead:

 

Pretty angry too. Going to go to Wrigley though for the Royals @ Cubs.

 

Also, 2011 was the summer I was in Cleveland for work, so I missed them last time as well.

[Guest]

What are looking like some of the likely dates/locations Bryant could be up?

 

If they're serious about winning next year, he should be up the first damn game. They make too much money to worry about an extra $15MM 3 years from now.

 

No. That is foolish.

 

The difference between him and Coghlan/Valbuena or someone like that for like 3 weeks worth of games is negligible (hell, very easily could be a net gain).

No, it's a stupid [expletive] game they are playing because they operate like bunch of [expletive] penniless rubes. Scott Boars will be like 100 when it comes time for Bryant to negotiate his big contract.

 

If you want to win more games next year you bring him up this year to start the major league development process.

[Tracer Bullet]

Just booked a cheap hotel room for the weekend of 6/19-6/21 in Minneapolis. The Marriott City Center was only $129/night with no cancellation penalty until the day of. If you have any interest, might not be a bad idea. I'm excited!

 

i think i'm going to bring the fam up for that series as well, but i'm a hilton man myself

 

Looks like the annual summer trip to Iowa via MSP will be in mid-June next year

[mul21]

What are looking like some of the likely dates/locations Bryant could be up?

 

If they're serious about winning next year, he should be up the first damn game. They make too much money to worry about an extra $15MM 3 years from now.

 

No. That is foolish.

 

The difference between him and Coghlan/Valbuena or someone like that for like 3 weeks worth of games is negligible (hell, very easily could be a net gain).

No, it's a stupid [expletive] game they are playing because they operate like bunch of [expletive] penniless rubes. Scott Boars will be like 100 when it comes time for Bryant to negotiate his big contract.

 

If you want to win more games next year you bring him up this year to start the major league development process.

 

You do realize it has very little to do with money and nearly 100% to do with having the player for an extra year right? I mean, based on the bolded, it's obvious you don't, but I just thought I'd ask.

 

No trip to KC sucks because I can always manage to get out there for a "work trip" when they go.

[wvcbxl]

Looks like I need to schedule a trip next year :D

[apete6]

What are looking like some of the likely dates/locations Bryant could be up?

 

If they're serious about winning next year, he should be up the first damn game. They make too much money to worry about an extra $15MM 3 years from now.

 

No. That is foolish.

 

The difference between him and Coghlan/Valbuena or someone like that for like 3 weeks worth of games is negligible (hell, very easily could be a net gain).

No, it's a stupid [expletive] game they are playing because they operate like bunch of [expletive] penniless rubes. Scott Boars will be like 100 when it comes time for Bryant to negotiate his big contract.

 

If you want to win more games next year you bring him up this year to start the major league development process.

 

You do realize it has very little to do with money and nearly 100% to do with having the player for an extra year right? I mean, based on the bolded, it's obvious you don't, but I just thought I'd ask.

 

No trip to KC sucks because I can always manage to get out there for a "work trip" when they go.

 

Actually, no it doesn't. Baez came up this August, if Bryant comes up next June, they'll have the same Free Agency date.

[jersey cubs fan]

You do realize it has very little to do with money and nearly 100% to do with having the player for an extra year right?

 

How so? As a big market team they are in very little, if any, danger of losing him to free agency if they want to keep him. It is only about money. What they are willing to sacrifice is his age 22 season of productivity.

[Guest]

Actually, no it doesn't. Baez came up this August, if Bryant comes up next June, they'll have the same Free Agency date.

 

No, they will not. Assuming Baez is in MLB to stay, he'll be a free agent after 2020. If Bryant does not come up until June, he'll be a free agent after 2021.

[Guest]

You do realize it has very little to do with money and nearly 100% to do with having the player for an extra year right?

 

How so? As a big market team they are in very little, if any, danger of losing him to free agency if they want to keep him. It is only about money. What they are willing to sacrifice is his age 22 season of productivity.

 

They are trading a partial season at age 22 where the team has been in last place for 5 months for a full season at age 29.

[Guest]

What are looking like some of the likely dates/locations Bryant could be up?

 

If they're serious about winning next year, he should be up the first damn game. They make too much money to worry about an extra $15MM 3 years from now.

 

No. That is foolish.

 

The difference between him and Coghlan/Valbuena or someone like that for like 3 weeks worth of games is negligible (hell, very easily could be a net gain).

No, it's a stupid [expletive] game they are playing because they operate like bunch of [expletive] penniless rubes. Scott Boars will be like 100 when it comes time for Bryant to negotiate his big contract.

 

If you want to win more games next year you bring him up this year to start the major league development process.

 

You do realize it has very little to do with money and nearly 100% to do with having the player for an extra year right? I mean, based on the bolded, it's obvious you don't, but I just thought I'd ask.

 

No trip to KC sucks because I can always manage to get out there for a "work trip" when they go.

Bryant will play for the Cubs for as long as the Ricketts want. It has everything to do with money.

[Guest]

Bryant will play for the Cubs for as long as the Ricketts want. It has everything to do with money.

 

This is reductive nonsense. Having Bryant through age 29 is better than having him through age 28. If history is any predictor, it's a lot better because Bryant will be a really good baseball player at age 29. In order to *guarantee* they have him at 29, they're sacrificing having him on the MLB team at the tail end of a lost season, and for a couple weeks next year. It's a trivial sacrifice for the expected benefit.

 

I say guarantee because despite pretending otherwise, there are no certainties when it comes to Free Agency. Guys leave big market teams all the time. Just last season Cano left the Yankees for more money/years, while the Yankees were in the process of spending a billion dollars in FA and giving the middle finger to the luxury tax. As a result the Yankees are going to miss the playoffs by about one Robinson Cano because they're playing the husk of Brian Roberts at 2B.

 

Moreover, money is not the only consideration here and why this is such a false choice. I'm pretty certain that I want a team option on Kris Bryant for his age 29 season. I'm far less certain that I'll want to guarantee him significant cash through age 34, 36, or even 40(like Cano). So if I can get the former while not at all jeopardizing the latter for the trivial cost mentioned above, it's a no-brainer.

[SouthSideRyan]

And what it winds up being to me is that people are seemingly ok with letting Bryant walk at age 30, which is...insane

[Guest]

And what it winds up being to me is that people are seemingly ok with letting Bryant walk at age 30, which is...insane

 

It's not at all, but the entire point is that decision is completely unrelated. It's sacrificing 20-25 games in his rookie year to put off that decision in his prime/late-prime by an entire year.

[XZero771679666304]

And what it winds up being to me is that people are seemingly ok with letting Bryant walk at age 30, which is...insane

 

Where are you getting that? All I see is people saying that because there are no guarantees about being able to keep him after he hits FA (and he almost certainly will), banking that extra year at the expense of a month at the end of a [expletive] season is the smart play.

 

Unless someone has said "lets just get our guaranteed years of control and kick him to the curb" and I missed it.

[SouthSideRyan]

And what it winds up being to me is that people are seemingly ok with letting Bryant walk at age 30, which is...insane

 

Where are you getting that? All I see is people saying that because there are no guarantees about being able to keep him after he hits FA (and he almost certainly will), banking that extra year at the expense of a month at the end of a [expletive] season is the smart play.

 

Unless someone has said "lets just get our guaranteed years of control and kick him to the curb" and I missed it.

 

Because much of the conversation revolves around locking in a "prime year" of Bryant, as if when he meets all our wildest expectations, we shouldn't bother with him after that.

 

ETA: I'm as erect on Bryant as anyone, but I'd still much prefer he have a month or 2 of MLB pitching before next year since we should actually be trying by that point. I don't want to see him come up in late April and then have to struggle for a couple months before he starts donging all over the place.

[Guest]

Again, the difference is trivial for next year. You'd have to think that Bryant was going to be sub-replacement for a month or two then flip a switch to 5 win monster immediately after that for it to make a material impact on the team's chances.

[SouthSideRyan]

Again, the difference is trivial for next year. You'd have to think that Bryant was going to be sub-replacement for a month or two then flip a switch to 5 win monster immediately after that for it to make a material impact on the team's chances.

 

Or you could think we'll be in the running for a 2nd wild card, and putzing away 3 months might not be the best idea.

[Backtobanks]

Again, the difference is trivial for next year. You'd have to think that Bryant was going to be sub-replacement for a month or two then flip a switch to 5 win monster immediately after that for it to make a material impact on the team's chances.

 

Or you could think we'll be in the running for a 2nd wild card, and putzing away 3 months might not be the best idea.

 

I hope we can get to a point where decisions are made about what's good for 2015 (or 2016) instead of 2020 (or 2021).

[Guest]

Again, the difference is trivial for next year. You'd have to think that Bryant was going to be sub-replacement for a month or two then flip a switch to 5 win monster immediately after that for it to make a material impact on the team's chances.

 

Or you could think we'll be in the running for a 2nd wild card, and putzing away 3 months might not be the best idea.

 

Again, unless you think there's some sort of eureka moment where he turns the corner from bad to awesome in the blink of an eye, it's not making a difference worth worrying about(especially compared to the benefit). If he's great right away it doesn't make a difference, if he's bad for a long while it doesn't make a difference. If he's bad then progresses to be good, the difference in his call-up time is simply not significant.