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Stupid Cubs: Sosa needs to make amends

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I said it earlier, but my guess is that since anywhere you'd want Sosa to be is for PR stuff like the 100th birthday game and fluff like that, that they don't want him there when a sizable number of fans are going to still boo him. I don't know if him publicly apologizing would make a huge difference, but that + time has helped in some other cases. Seems more logical to me than the implications of hurt feelings from people who weren't in power with the Cubs when Sosa was around.

 

I think it's pretty clear that the Cubs keeping this an issue is playing a part of keeping fans on the "no Sammy" side. They are playing up to the meatballs and thus feeding them more red meat, and making things worse. Talking about Sammy needing to do stuff to get back into the good graces of Ricketts & Co is just ridiculous and not the least bit helpful.

 

They aren't handling this flawlessly, but it is a bit of a no-win situation. The media is going to ask, the contingent who want Sammy around will make some noise too, and "we want our nice PR events not to be marred by morons who will boo Sammy" is a hard sentiment to sanitize.

 

When looking at any kind of promotional material since the Ricketts took over, be it retrospectives or giveaways or events or acknowledging former players and the like, the Cubs have actively minimized Sammy as much as possible short of just completely ignoring him. They could definitely be doing a LOT more, especially with all of the anniversary stuff, in terms of making him a part of the organization's history again even without inviting him or anything like that. Just remind people how awesome he was.

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I guess I don't understand how any Cub fan can boo Sammy. I get being mad back in '04 with how that season ended, but good god it's been a decade and the man was the Cubs for about 7 years.
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I guess I don't understand how any Cub fan can boo Sammy. I get being mad back in '04 with how that season ended, but good god it's been a decade and the man was the Cubs for about 7 years.

 

There were plenty that didn't like him even before that and when he was producing like a monster

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Weren't there some boos at the Cubs Convention in January? Guess the Ricketts had better trash that too.

That's a terrible comparison/analogy.

It's sarcasm. Fear of boos is a stupid reason to do anything, and if that has anything to do with the Ricketts' reasoning, it's ridiculous.

 

Not wanting boos at a PR event is ridiculous and stupid?

 

Not really. If TT is right, it actually makes sense at least. A lot moreso than what we've been told.

 

Uh, yeah it is ridiculous and stupid.

 

That does not make any sense whatsoever, nor does it justify the stupid decision.

 

 

It doesn't make sense and is ridiculous and stupid to avoid negativity at a PR event? What? Fear of boos is not a stupid reason to not do something at a freaking PR event.

 

You can make the case that it won't lead to boos/negativity, but that's an entirely different argument. One that I probably agree with (at least for the most part).

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Yes because boos at a pr event are meaningless. Pr only matters in very very very few instances. Not made up anniversary parties.

 

People who prioritize PR image are generally the worst humans in the world. They don't matter.

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I guess I don't understand when is a good time to bring back Sosa then. Any time they bring him back will be a PR event, and any groveling and apologizing and whatever other dumb [expletive] they're requiring isn't going to make a difference to the type of people that would boo him anyway, so what the [expletive] is the point?
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Even if you buy the PR crap, they're primarily responsible for the media presence that exists when talking about a Sammy return. If they had just done it for the anniversary thing it wouldn't have been covered so much and now it's like a self fulfilling prophecy where of course the media is going to cover the story if you do bring him back and in turn draw attention to the crazies who will boo. Like right now if you announce "June 1 is bring Sosa back to the Cubs day" the meatballs will flock to it because it's somehow become a story.

 

If you are looking for a less controversy-filled way to bring him back. Do it at the Cubs convention. First you have Cubs greats from the 1998 and 2003 playoff teams introduce something or someone. "Please welcome Kerry Wood and Sammy Sosa." Most meatballs will not boo with Wood there just to spite Sosa.

 

Then you have him do an autograph session at the convention but also have "Cubs great" Ryan Theriot sign autographs at the same time. Most meatballs won't risk missing their chance at a Theriot signature just to stand in line for a chance to heckle Sosa so he'll again get a warm reception from fans.

 

Then you just start including him in PR stuff like it's no thing. Also once you have the video board, have him sing the stretch and right before his performance play an awesome highlight reel on the kick ass video screen.

 

I think ultimately though Ricketts just doesn't care to have him back though.

 

 

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Oooooooo, I didn't hear about Sammy attacking an employee. When was this?

 

Eh, I said "like". Just the "public apology for any previous transgressions, come back and be adored by fans" bit.

 

F THE PUBLIC APOLOGY, it is an unnecessary made up requirement.

 

Manny apologizing for assaulting an elderly man has nothing to do with Sammy.

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I don't require it, but clearly the Cubs do. So fine, get it over with...it's PR nonsense. I just want him back in the Cubs good graces, however that has to happen.
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I don't require it, but clearly the Cubs do. So fine, get it over with...it's PR nonsense. I just want him back in the Cubs good graces, however that has to happen.

 

I'd honestly rather never him involved with the team again than see a forced made up apology to appease the idiots. Anybody, whether it be Ricketts, Kenney, Theo, the media, any fan, who thinks Sammy owes them anything resembling an apology can eat a bag of schlongs.

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I don't require it, but clearly the Cubs do. So fine, get it over with...it's PR nonsense. I just want him back in the Cubs good graces, however that has to happen.

 

I'd honestly rather never him involved with the team again than see a forced made up apology to appease the idiots. Anybody, whether it be Ricketts, Kenney, Theo, the media, any fan, who thinks Sammy owes them anything resembling an apology can eat a bag of schlongs.

 

I was debating the same sentiment. As embarrassing as it is to not acknowledge him, it wouldn't be as embarrassing as making Sosa come back though the supplicant doggy door. Let PTR own this embarrassment if it's how he wants to act

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I don't require it, but clearly the Cubs do. So fine, get it over with...it's PR nonsense. I just want him back in the Cubs good graces, however that has to happen.

 

I'd honestly rather never him involved with the team again than see a forced made up apology to appease the idiots. Anybody, whether it be Ricketts, Kenney, Theo, the media, any fan, who thinks Sammy owes them anything resembling an apology can eat a bag of schlongs.

 

I want them to make Ron Santo's family apologize for the Don Young incident.

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how come you never hear about the good pedophiles, like sammy sosa, who want to [expletive] kids but dont
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Oooooooo, I didn't hear about Sammy attacking an employee. When was this?

 

I mean, it's largely been swept under the rug, but Sammy did worse.

 

?????

 

smashing a bottle of rum over his wife's head or whatever and threatening to kill her

 

i should've said allegedly did though

Yeah, it was a dismissed lawsuit. If the Cubs were worried about those (they probably shouldn't be), Castro would be kicked off the team.

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wasn't bringing it up re: the cubs concerns, honestly

 

i don't think they should have any

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Oooooooo, I didn't hear about Sammy attacking an employee. When was this?

 

I mean, it's largely been swept under the rug, but Sammy did worse.

 

?????

 

smashing a bottle of rum over his wife's head or whatever and threatening to kill her

 

i should've said allegedly did though

 

Ya think?

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