Week 15: Bears (7-6) @ Browns (4-9) Noon, FOX

[Thed Hoyerstein]

I had someone try to argue with me that Jay was a worse QB than McCown because he throws the ball "too well" to be caught. McCown is a better option because his lame duck throws give the receivers the opportunity to outjump/wrestle the ball from the opposing DBs.

 

hahaha

[Guest]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

[Wilson A2000]

McCown's "Wonderboy" gloves prevented those 3 interceptions from being caught by Cowboys defenders. Ergo, they weren't "mistakes".

 

This fanbase almost doesn't deserve nice things.

 

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes.

 

And his idiot play against Minnesota that cost us the game. Lets not forget that. Because that was as dumb a decision as you'll ever see. Was that not a "mistake", but a clever ploy to get Kyle Long a reception? Nor his inability to throw a TD in the red zone unless his receiver has nobody within 5 yards of him.

 

And yet, when Cutler has good passes bobbled by Earl Bennett or deflected on a fluke and picked off, it's his fault.

 

 

Not saying McCown hasn't made bad throws. He has. But overall outplayed Jay. Trestman's FG decision, Robbie's missed FG, defense not stopping the Vikings on 4th and long, and missed throws by McCown were all factors. Robbie's missed FG to me most important play that game.

[Wilson A2000]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

[Wilson A2000]

McCown's "Wonderboy" gloves prevented those 3 interceptions from being caught by Cowboys defenders. Ergo, they weren't "mistakes".

 

This fanbase almost doesn't deserve nice things.

 

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes.

 

Yup, just two bad passes. All those other games where they couldn't punch it into the endzone? Totally on everyone else.

 

Just talking about the Dallas game. Made more than two bad throws all season. Still just one INT.

[Wilson A2000]

Wilson, I'm honestly curious...do you want the Bears to let Cutler go and stick with McCown next year? If so, do you view him only as a short term "bandage" option or do you think by some miracle Trestman has laid hands upon him and he's figured it all out at 34?

 

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt.

 

Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games.

 

Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

Edited December 13, 2013 by Wilson A2000

[USSoccer]

McCown's "Wonderboy" gloves prevented those 3 interceptions from being caught by Cowboys defenders. Ergo, they weren't "mistakes".

 

This fanbase almost doesn't deserve nice things.

 

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes.

 

And his idiot play against Minnesota that cost us the game. Lets not forget that. Because that was as dumb a decision as you'll ever see. Was that not a "mistake", but a clever ploy to get Kyle Long a reception? Nor his inability to throw a TD in the red zone unless his receiver has nobody within 5 yards of him.

 

And yet, when Cutler has good passes bobbled by Earl Bennett or deflected on a fluke and picked off, it's his fault.

 

 

Not saying McCown hasn't made bad throws. He has. But overall outplayed Jay. Trestman's FG decision, Robbie's missed FG, defense not stopping the Vikings on 4th and long, and missed throws by McCown were all factors. Robbie's missed FG to me most important play that game.

 

Actually, the offense's inability to convert 3rd downs was the thing that lost them that game. McCown's yardage in that game was mostly due to Alshon going cheat code.

 

But whatever fits your warped narrative where Jay Cutler is somehow some bumbling hack and Josh McCown is going to lead the team to all the glories

[USSoccer]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

He isn't as good as his stats suggest.

[Banedon]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"?

[WrigleyField 22]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

ROFL

 

Yea, Jay Cutler, Media Attention Whore

[Wilson A2000]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"?

 

Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't.

[Wilson A2000]

McCown's "Wonderboy" gloves prevented those 3 interceptions from being caught by Cowboys defenders. Ergo, they weren't "mistakes".

 

This fanbase almost doesn't deserve nice things.

 

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes.

 

And his idiot play against Minnesota that cost us the game. Lets not forget that. Because that was as dumb a decision as you'll ever see. Was that not a "mistake", but a clever ploy to get Kyle Long a reception? Nor his inability to throw a TD in the red zone unless his receiver has nobody within 5 yards of him.

 

And yet, when Cutler has good passes bobbled by Earl Bennett or deflected on a fluke and picked off, it's his fault.

 

 

Not saying McCown hasn't made bad throws. He has. But overall outplayed Jay. Trestman's FG decision, Robbie's missed FG, defense not stopping the Vikings on 4th and long, and missed throws by McCown were all factors. Robbie's missed FG to me most important play that game.

 

Actually, the offense's inability to convert 3rd downs was the thing that lost them that game. McCown's yardage in that game was mostly due to Alshon going cheat code.

 

But whatever fits your warped narrative where Jay Cutler is somehow some bumbling hack and Josh McCown is going to lead the team to all the glories

 

A missed FG to win in overtime was the biggest play. Almost always is.

[Banedon]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"?

 

Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't.

 

My interpretation is that Jay thinks that McCown had a really good last game, and that Josh made some mistakes and had some throws he'd like to have back.

[Splendid Splinter]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

 

If anything, Cutler is probably happy that the attention was off of him for awhile. I think Cutler needed to see a backup QB do well in his place while he was injured. Also can anybody think of a time this year where Cutler blew up at someone/walked away from Trestman or Kromer/pouting by himself on the bench/etc? I feel like he has really turn a corner this year on that part.

[Guest]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

It's a completely innocuous quote (just like what Brandon Marshall said about Alshon Jeffery) but you interpret it differently from everyone else because you let your biases cloud your thinking.D

[Sammy Sofa]

Wilson, I'm honestly curious...do you want the Bears to let Cutler go and stick with McCown next year? If so, do you view him only as a short term "bandage" option or do you think by some miracle Trestman has laid hands upon him and he's figured it all out at 34?

 

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt.

 

Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games.

 

Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

 

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's a completely innocuous quote (just like what Brandon Marshall said about Alshon Jeffery) but you interpret it completely different from everyone else because you let your biases cloud your thinking.

 

Hey, he doesn't have any biases against Cutler. Some of his best friends are extremely talented quarterbacks with attitude problems and too much confidence to write checks his diva wide receivers can't cash.

[jersey cubs fan]

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

 

I think you are forgetting that the Bears only had 4 wins when Cutler was injured, and now they have 7. Would you prefer a 4-9 record instead of 7-6?

[Sammy Sofa]

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

 

I think you are forgetting that the Bears only had 4 wins when Cutler was injured, and now they have 7. Would you prefer a 4-9 record instead of 7-6?

 

THE UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT.

[Guest]

It's a completely innocuous quote (just like what Brandon Marshall said about Alshon Jeffery) but you interpret it completely different from everyone else because you let your biases cloud your thinking.

 

Hey, he doesn't have any biases against Cutler. Some of his best friends are extremely talented quarterbacks with attitude problems and too much confidence to write checks his diva wide receivers can't cash.

 

Bwahahahahahaha.

[Wilson A2000]

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

 

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling.

 

Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

 

How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"?

 

Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't.

 

My interpretation is that Jay thinks that McCown had a really good last game, and that Josh made some mistakes and had some throws he'd like to have back.

 

"Good" is not a strong enough word (Jay didn't say really good). It was unbelievable, one of the best quarterbacked games in Bears history. When you win offensive player of the week and one of your teammates says it was just good and you made bad throws, I sense some jealousy there. From the clip I heard on M&H, those were the only things Jay said. I don't expect Jay to laud tons of praise on Josh, but I expected more than a blah and pointing out two bad plays on a day where McCown played better than Jay ever has here.

 

You didn't really give an interpretation, just a restatement.

Edited December 13, 2013 by Wilson A2000

[Sammy Sofa]

His Jealousy-Sense is tingling.

 

Not be mistaken for Diva-Dar.

[Wilson A2000]

Wilson, I'm honestly curious...do you want the Bears to let Cutler go and stick with McCown next year? If so, do you view him only as a short term "bandage" option or do you think by some miracle Trestman has laid hands upon him and he's figured it all out at 34?

 

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt.

 

Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games.

 

Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

 

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

 

Uh because they did in every offensive category for the time being?

[USSoccer]

Wilson, I'm honestly curious...do you want the Bears to let Cutler go and stick with McCown next year? If so, do you view him only as a short term "bandage" option or do you think by some miracle Trestman has laid hands upon him and he's figured it all out at 34?

 

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt.

 

Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games.

 

Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

 

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

 

Uh because they did in every offensive category for the time being?

 

So the fact that they were playing terrible defenses matters not?

[Sammy Sofa]

Wilson, I'm honestly curious...do you want the Bears to let Cutler go and stick with McCown next year? If so, do you view him only as a short term "bandage" option or do you think by some miracle Trestman has laid hands upon him and he's figured it all out at 34?

 

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt.

 

Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games.

 

Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

 

And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over.

 

Uh because they did in every offensive category for the time being?

 

Well, except for scoring (except for that last game against the worst defense in the NFL).