Offseason Rumors

[SouthSideRyan]

Which is higher:

 

Tanaka's posting fee + first two years of his contract

 

or

 

Cubs' 2014 MLB payroll

 

Tanaka's posting + first year might be a push.

[davell]

Which is higher:

 

Tanaka's posting fee + first two years of his contract

 

or

 

Cubs' 2014 MLB payroll

 

Tanaka's posting + first year might be a push.

Damn, that was my thought as well.

[Clem Fandango]

Which is higher:

 

Tanaka's posting fee + first two years of his contract

 

or

 

Cubs' 2014 MLB payroll

 

Tanaka's posting + first year might be a push.

Damn, that was my thought as well.

 

After what Darvish got and what Lincecum just made... yeah. I expect multiple teams to throw $50+ mil at the Tanaka posting fee. Given the lack of good starters and the influx of money to a lot of big markets, Tanaka and his posting team are going to get paid handsomely. I could see posting + first year being anywhere from $70-$80 million.

[SABR Gamer]

Which is higher:

 

Tanaka's posting fee + first two years of his contract

 

or

 

Cubs' 2014 MLB payroll

 

Tanaka's posting + first year might be a push.

Damn, that was my thought as well.

 

After what Darvish got and what Lincecum just made... yeah. I expect multiple teams to throw $50+ mil at the Tanaka posting fee. Given the lack of good starters and the influx of money to a lot of big markets, Tanaka and his posting team are going to get paid handsomely. I could see posting + first year being anywhere from $70-$80 million.

 

The payroll better be higher than that.

[Clem Fandango]

I don't think anyone would argue with that... but who knows with the way things are going these days.

[davell]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

[SouthSideRyan]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

If we're spending like we are now in order to cover that contract up front I'd come close to forgiving PoorTomRicketts.

[jersey cubs fan]

So we lock up Baez and Bryant to 5/35 contracts, what do we do with the other money?

 

I like gold at these levels.

[pitchcs]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

[Exile on Waveland]

I'd still take B.J. Upton.

[KingCubsFan]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

[WrigleyField 22]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

It's not serious in that he won't hit FA. He'll give LA a nice hometown deal of 8/225 so that he can hit FA again in his early 30s and get a record 10/750M contract.

[pitchcs]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

It seems extremely far off to me. 15 years for a guy who depends on speed? Don't think so.

[pitchcs]

Remember when everyone on this board wanted BJ Upton? That was [expletive] hilarious.

 

To be clear this post is coming from the guy who wanted Dayan Viciedo vomiting all over himself attempting to play the field in Wrigley's LF last year.

 

Good english.

 

Why did you have to reply to me to make me unblock you?

 

Go bitch about Tom Ricketts some more.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

It seems extremely far off to me. 15 years for a guy who depends on speed? Don't think so.

 

"Depends on speed"?

.400 OBP and 30 HR. Doesn't really depend on speed.

[KingCubsFan]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

It seems extremely far off to me. 15 years for a guy who depends on speed? Don't think so.

 

"Depends on speed"?

.400 OBP and 30 HR. Doesn't really depend on speed.

Yeah, that's like saying Barry Bonds depended on speed when he left the Pirates.

[Guest]

Not to mention the whole "speed guys age poorly thing" is largely a myth.

 

Trout is THAT good. And there is THAT much money in baseball. Those numbers should be way less offensive to the sensibilities than what Cano is looking for or what Pujols was.

[Sammy Sofa]

Holy [expletive], I never thought I'd see someone try to narrow Trout down as a "speed guy."

[Guest]

Holy [expletive], I never thought I'd see someone try to narrow Trout down as a "speed guy."

Well, he does get a [expletive] load of value out of speed, but that's besides the point.

[SouthSideRyan]

Mike Trout reminds pitchcs of Matt Szczur

[Elrhino]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

As good of a pure baseball player as Trout is, I don't see him being the iconic marketing superstar and revenue magnet that someone is going to pay half a billion dollars for. Nice kid, but not exactly dripping with charisma and personality.

[Guest]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

As good of a pure baseball player as Trout is, I don't see him being the iconic marketing superstar and revenue magnet that someone is going to pay half a billion dollars for. Nice kid, but not exactly dripping with charisma and personality.

 

Since when do transcendentally great players get huge contracts for their charisma and personality. dafuq?

[Elrhino]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

As good of a pure baseball player as Trout is, I don't see him being the iconic marketing superstar and revenue magnet that someone is going to pay half a billion dollars for. Nice kid, but not exactly dripping with charisma and personality.

 

Since when do transcendentally great players get huge contracts for their charisma and personality. dafuq?

 

Since sports became a business where people expect to make money and generate revenue. Which is why a transcendent marketing personality like Derek Jeter has made way more money in his career than his pure production would warrant. One of the biggest reasons the relationship between ARod and Tom Hicks soured is because ARod wasn't doing the marketing that Hicks had expected.

Edited October 23, 2013 by Elrhino

[Cubswin11]

If Trout hits FA at 26......15/450?

 

This isn't serious is it?

Doesn't seem too far off to me if Trout continues his pace (which would make him one of the greatest players of all-time at the age of 26).

 

As good of a pure baseball player as Trout is, I don't see him being the iconic marketing superstar and revenue magnet that someone is going to pay half a billion dollars for. Nice kid, but not exactly dripping with charisma and personality.

If you sign him through his age 41/42 season and he continues on his relative path you presumably have him while he's chasing 500-600+ career HR's, 3,000+ hits, and becoming one of the all time WAR leaders (which should be a bigger/more known and widely accepted metric by then). There's plenty of marketing potential in there. Not to mention you have one of the best players of all time during most or all of his prime, I'd hope/think there are a few winning seasons/deep playoff runs in there that obviously increases revenue.

 

If you have one of the best players in your sport you are going to get endorsements even if they aren't overly charismatic, look at Rose.

Edited October 23, 2013 by Cubswin11

[jersey cubs fan]

Since sports became a business where people expect to make money and generate revenue. Which is why Derek Jeter has made way more money in his career than his pure production would warrant. The MLB isn't roto baseball.

 

He got that contract because he played on the Yankees during their championship run. Not because of charisma.

 

MLB teams don't make money off charisma, they make money off television ratings and attendance, and that is correlated to winning. A superstar helps you win, which pays for itself. A charismatic personality does very little for the bottom line.