2013 Draft Day Thread + Cubs Picks Discussion

[ctcf]

Scott Frazier - RHP - Pepperdine

 

BA had him at #160

[Guest]

Would like Scott Frazier of Pepperdine.

[jersey cubs fan]

The big right-hander served as Pepperdine's Saturday starter in 2012, then moved into the Friday slot as a junior, continuing to show the big arm that has always intrigued scouts. His fastball sits in the 91-94 mph range, and he backs it up with a curve and changeup. He's shown gradual improvement over time with the Waves and while his results as a junior have been up and down, he's the kind of college arm that could sneak into the back end of the first round. After his sophomore season, Frazier pitched in the Cape Cod League to cap off 2012. Even with his uneven performances, his size and arm strength were still getting a lot of interest as the Draft approached.

[jersey cubs fan]

Would like Scott Frazier of Pepperdine.

 

we'll see what we can do about that for you

[Guest]

he's a big [expletive]

[Guest]

Would like Scott Frazier of Pepperdine.

 

we'll see what we can do about that for you

 

Haha, I swear I made that post before I realize he was picked. Awesome.

 

He was very well regarded coming out of HS and thought of as a possible first rounder but never put it all together. Could be a reliever if he still struggles with his secondary stuff, but I bet Derek Johnson could do wonders for him.

[jersey cubs fan]

he's a big [expletive]

 

Video has him strangely bending over at the start of windup, wonder if he's going to have back issues

[Elrhino]

http://www.prospectdigest.com/2013/06/03/college-draft-profile-scott-frazier/

 

Scott Frazier, RHP, Pepperdine University

 

Class: Junior; Height: 6-7; Weight: 230; Position: RHP

 

Despite the rather vanilla 4.06 ERA, the lanky, 6-foot-7 right-hander from Pepperdine has turned in a fairly impressive season in 2013. In 13 starts for the Waves, Frazier missed an above-average amount of bats (8.42 K/9) while posting a solid 3.60 FIP. The problem, however, is his lagging control/command. In 88.7 innings, he’s walked 40, or 4.06 BB/9.

 

Projection: Frazier’s a decent prospect, potentially one that could go within the first three rounds of the draft. He has size, ability to miss bats, and his control during his sophomore season was far better (2.71 BB/9) than this year (4.06 BB/9). His peak is probably somewhere around a fourth or fifth starter, but there’s some potential big league value here.

 

Ceiling: 1.0- to 1.5-win player

 

Likelihood of Reaching His Ceiling: Low to Moderate

 

Drafted: Third or Fourth Round

[davell]

Like the pick. It seems like this may be a draft we wind up with some solid bullpen arms. I guess we'll start all of them out in rotations though?

 

I hope ABTY is right and we aren't punting these next few picks. But I am still hopeful of an impact type in the 11th.

[UK1679666180]

Would like Scott Frazier of Pepperdine.

 

we'll see what we can do about that for you

 

Haha, I swear I made that post before I realize he was picked. Awesome.

 

He was very well regarded coming out of HS and thought of as a possible first rounder but never put it all together. Could be a reliever if he still struggles with his secondary stuff, but I bet Derek Johnson could do wonders for him.

 

He's the type that loses velo as the game wears on, not blessed with a quick arm, throws w/more effort than you'd like, but has two ML avg. pitches (FB and slider). I see him as a reliever. Would like to see him out in front more and not rush his lower body.

[Guest]

he's a big [expletive]

 

Video has him strangely bending over at the start of windup, wonder if he's going to have back issues

 

he's got a violent delivery for a guy that's so big, too, not that that's necessarily a bad thing. he's got big prior-calves. but, yeah, don't know what's up with that bend.

[Guest]

his favorite book is Cannery Row, he can't be too bad of a dude.

[Guest]

ok, for you milb experts, where do the college pitchers start? boise? kane county? daytona?

[jersey cubs fan]

ok, for you milb experts, where do the college pitchers start? boise? kane county? daytona?

 

not an expert. I think outside the studs at the top, guys will begin and short season (Boise) and see time in Kane County.

 

 

Cubs take another college RHP, David Garner from Michigan State

[Guest]

david garner - rhp -michigan state

[jersey cubs fan]

At 5-foot-11, 175 pounds, David Garner's size doesn't intimidate hitters. However, his slight frame is not an indication of the power the right-hander possesses. Garner owns a fastball that can touch 95 mph, while his hard-breaking slider is his primary out-pitch. He has a free delivery and aggressive approach, and his electric stuff has led to 192 strikeouts in 217 2/3 innings pitched for Michigan State during his three years in East Lansing. At times, Garner can lose his control, as he walked 27 batters this year, while also hitting six and throwing 10 wild pitches. In his first two seasons at Michigan State, Garner was in and out of the rotation, but he made all 14 appearances as a starter during his junior year. He went 4-5 with a 4.10 ERA, lifting his career numbers to 15-12 and 3.97, respectively. Garner stood out in the Cape Cod League each of the past two summers, especially in 2012, when he was named to the West Division All-Star Team. In 43 1/3 innings for the Hyannis Harbor Hawks, Garner registered 41 strikeouts and a 3.12 ERA, both of which were good for top 20 in the league. Before becoming a Spartan, Garner was drafted by the Reds in the 33rd round (No. 997 overall) of the 2010 Draft.

[weis21]

I'm liking these advanced college arms that all seem to at least touch mid 90's

[jersey cubs fan]

So that's 5 college starting pitchers out of the top 200 picks of the draft going to the Cubs. I think we can call it a trend. Assuming they sign, you would think a lot of these currently 21-22 year olds will be in Kane County or Daytona next season.

 

Everything from BIGMOFOS to little fellas.

[KingCubsFan]

Sounds like Hayden Simpson.

[Elrhino]

david garner - rhp -michigan state

 

His comps are Dontrelle Willis and Doc Gooden

[Guest]

so we've gone position player in the first, followed by arms arms arms in two straight years. even though quantity doesn't "move the needle" according to kyle, it's an interesting strategy and gives us depth. we are flooding the system with big college arms, which is good, considering we have some great bats.

[Guest]

david garner - rhp -michigan state

 

His comps are Dontrelle Willis and Doc Gooden

 

i was going to say Edwin Jackson and Bob Gibson.

[Cubswin11]

ABTY:

 

Scout (and apparently Mayo and Callis as well): 'Garner is likely up with Cubs quickly, possibly September, if not next year'...

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Sounds like Hayden Simpson.

 

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/Critical_Mass_photos/commodus.jpg

[Guest]

ABTY:

 

Scout (and apparently Mayo and Callis as well): 'Garner is likely up with Cubs quickly, possibly September, if not next year'...

 

a short, thin college pitcher from a non-baseball power with middling collegiate stats, color me unimpressed.

 

this kyle perspective is fun.