2013 Draft Day Thread + Cubs Picks Discussion

[weis21]

Yeah, there's no denying the question in itself was pretty stupid. But maybe it's just some [expletive] middle school kid who doesn't know any better. Just give a helpful answer and say, "grad school isn't necessary. what is necessary is to get a degree in something that relates to the sector of the industry that interests you. then try to gain as much experience as possible (through internships, primarily). It's a long shot, though, so be cognizant of this if you aspire to work for MLB".

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, there's no denying the question in itself was pretty stupid. But maybe it's just some [expletive] middle school kid who doesn't know any better. Just give a helpful answer and say, "grad school isn't necessary. what is necessary is to get a degree in something that relates to the sector of the industry that interests you. then try to gain as much experience as possible (through internships, primarily). It's a long shot, though, so be cognizant of this if you aspire to work for MLB".

 

I'm sure you realize what an unreasonable expectation it is for such an answer to an online chat question.

[imb]

yeah, the guy who writes 40,000 word essays on [expletive] board games can't be expected to formulate a thoughtful answer in mere minutes

[weis21]

It took me like 30 seconds. It's basically the same advice I give all my students for any [expletive] job that doesn't require special certification.

[Tracer Bullet]

It took me like 30 seconds. It's basically the same advice I give all my students for any [expletive] job that doesn't require special certification.

 

He's not a guidance counselor.

[jersey cubs fan]

yeah, the guy who writes 40,000 word essays on [expletive] board games can't be expected to formulate a thoughtful answer in mere minutes

 

In an online chat, no.

[Guest]

I'm pretty sure Law doesn't have a shortage of questions to answer, so if he gets one where apparently the only "reasonable" reply is to be a snarky jerk, he shouldn't answer it and move on.

 

It was the same thing with Goldstein. You can answer(or not answer) questions asked of you on Twitter or in a chat without being obnoxious. Pretty much every other prospect writer is evidence of that.

[jersey cubs fan]

If people take that response as being a snarky jerk they should take their virgin eyes/ears away from the internet.

[Tracer Bullet]

He probably gets that question about a billion times a day and more than that during a chat. So he answered with snark. There's no way the guy that asked the question is nearly as offended as some folks here appear to be.

[weis21]

I was never offended. Just thought it was a douchebag response and wasn't very helpful. Like TT said, he could have just avoided it. But again, I guess that is his thing and some people must enjoy it.

[imb]

Quit being stupid, no one here cares what the guy who wrote the question feels like. It was a pretty dumb question in the first place. We're complaining because the guy is doing a prospect chat or baseball chat or whatever and he gets 1,000 questions ... what's the point of picking one out that has nothing to do with anything just to give a shitty response? it benefits no one. The guy who asked it gets a useless response, the people who read it get a useless question AND a useless response. Answer it thoughtfully or pick a different question.

[Guest]

Back on the topic of where the draftees will start:

 

@BruceMiles2112 Jason McLeod says most of high-round college picks will go to Class A Boise after taking physicals. #Cubs

[jersey cubs fan]

Quit being stupid, no one here cares what the guy who wrote the question feels like. It was a pretty dumb question in the first place. We're complaining because the guy is doing a prospect chat or baseball chat or whatever and he gets 1,000 questions ... what's the point of picking one out that has nothing to do with anything just to give a [expletive] response? it benefits no one. The guy who asked it gets a useless response, the people who read it get a useless question AND a useless response. Answer it thoughtfully or pick a different question.

 

The whole concept of an online chat about baseball prospects guarantees a preponderance of useless questions, the answers to which benefit no one.

[Tracer Bullet]

Quit being stupid, no one here cares what the guy who wrote the question feels like. It was a pretty dumb question in the first place. We're complaining because the guy is doing a prospect chat or baseball chat or whatever and he gets 1,000 questions ... what's the point of picking one out that has nothing to do with anything just to give a [expletive] response? it benefits no one. The guy who asked it gets a useless response, the people who read it get a useless question AND a useless response. Answer it thoughtfully or pick a different question.

 

He's gets the same question a million times and answered the specifics (will law/grad school help me get a baseball job) of this one.

[imb]

Quit being stupid, no one here cares what the guy who wrote the question feels like. It was a pretty dumb question in the first place. We're complaining because the guy is doing a prospect chat or baseball chat or whatever and he gets 1,000 questions ... what's the point of picking one out that has nothing to do with anything just to give a [expletive] response? it benefits no one. The guy who asked it gets a useless response, the people who read it get a useless question AND a useless response. Answer it thoughtfully or pick a different question.

 

He's gets the same question a million times and answered the specifics (will law/grad school help me get a baseball job) of this one.

 

im sure the guy has really been weighing his two options, law school or major league baseball.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Not the Cubs' pick but:

 

Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 4m

Enjoy overpaying for Manaea, Royals. This might be that last failure of the Moore era, but I doubt it. #injured

[Quakers]

Can we take the non-draft talk to another thread please :beg:

[Guest]

Man, the Rays sign Clayton Crum as an NDFA. He was drafted by the Cubs twice and never signed. Intriguing prospect but he was buried on Oregon's depth chart so he went undrafted.

 

He probably would have been better off taking the $100,000 I believe the Cubs offered him last year.

 

Crum signed for $25,000 despite having a year of eligibility. After turning down $100,000 last year. Weird.

 

He wanted 7-figures from the Cubs when he was drafted out of high school. Guess his expectations fell a bit.

[ctcf]

Has there been any news on Cubs/Bryant negotiations?

[craig]

Man, the Rays sign Clayton Crum as an NDFA. He was drafted by the Cubs twice and never signed. Intriguing prospect but he was buried on Oregon's depth chart so he went undrafted.

 

He probably would have been better off taking the $100,000 I believe the Cubs offered him last year.

 

Crum signed for $25,000 despite having a year of eligibility. After turning down $100,000 last year. Weird.

 

He wanted 7-figures from the Cubs when he was drafted out of high school. Guess his expectations fell a bit.

 

I was looking through list of previous Cub drafts from some years past. Pretty common that guys who seemed intriguing at draft, and who didn't sign over money or whatever, never turn out much. There are some Bryant and Appel and Prior guys who go to/return to college as high-value guys, and get picked higher. But certainly more exception than norm.

[Guest]

Man, the Rays sign Clayton Crum as an NDFA. He was drafted by the Cubs twice and never signed. Intriguing prospect but he was buried on Oregon's depth chart so he went undrafted.

 

He probably would have been better off taking the $100,000 I believe the Cubs offered him last year.

 

Crum signed for $25,000 despite having a year of eligibility. After turning down $100,000 last year. Weird.

 

He wanted 7-figures from the Cubs when he was drafted out of high school. Guess his expectations fell a bit.

 

I was looking through list of previous Cub drafts from some years past. Pretty common that guys who seemed intriguing at draft, and who didn't sign over money or whatever, never turn out much. There are some Bryant and Appel and Prior guys who go to/return to college as high-value guys, and get picked higher. But certainly more exception than norm.

Lincecum being the one that stands out in my memory for the Cubs.

[Guest]

Man, the Rays sign Clayton Crum as an NDFA. He was drafted by the Cubs twice and never signed. Intriguing prospect but he was buried on Oregon's depth chart so he went undrafted.

 

He probably would have been better off taking the $100,000 I believe the Cubs offered him last year.

 

Crum signed for $25,000 despite having a year of eligibility. After turning down $100,000 last year. Weird.

 

He wanted 7-figures from the Cubs when he was drafted out of high school. Guess his expectations fell a bit.

 

I was looking through list of previous Cub drafts from some years past. Pretty common that guys who seemed intriguing at draft, and who didn't sign over money or whatever, never turn out much. There are some Bryant and Appel and Prior guys who go to/return to college as high-value guys, and get picked higher. But certainly more exception than norm.

Lincecum being the one that stands out in my memory for the Cubs.

 

Two kids drafted by the Cubs in 2010 who didn't sign were drafted in the first round this year - 36th rounder Chris Anderson from a Minnesota HS and 50th rounder Eric Jagielo from Downers Grove.

 

Kind of funny/sad that the Cubs 50th rounder that year will in all likelihood have more pro success than their first rounder.

[Guest]

17th rounder Kelvin Freeman signs.

[Guest]

Scott Frazier got a $267,600 bonus.

 

He turned down $800,000 out of HS.

[Guest]

With Bryant unsigned and Garner and Wilson's bonuses unreported, here is how the Cubs spending breaks down in the top 10 rounds:

 

2013 Bonus Pool (signed picks only): $3,488,300

2013 Bonus Pool Including 5% Overage: $3,662,715

2013 Bonus Pool Spending: $3,730,000

2013 Bonus Pool +/-: $241,700 Over Budget

2013 Bonus Pool +/- Including 5% Overage: $67,285 Over Budget

 

Actual Bonuses:

 

2.41 - Rob Zastryzny, LHP, Missouri - Pool Amount: $1,361,900, Actual Bonus: $1.1 million

3.75 - Jacob Hannemann, OF, BYU - Pool Amount: $736,200, Actual Bonus: $1 million

4.108 - Tyler Skulina, RHP, Kent State - Pool Amount: $477,300, Actual Bonus: $800,000

5.138 - Trey Masek, RHP, Texas Tech - Pool Amount: $357,400, Actual Bonus: $357,400

6.168 - Scott Frazier, RHP, Pepperdine - Pool Amount: $267,600, Actual Bonus: $267,600

7.198 - David Garner, RHP, Michigan State - Pool Amount: $200,400

8.228 - Sam Wilson, LHP, Lamar (CO) CC - Pool Amount: $159,400

9.258 - Charcer Burks, OF, Travis HS (Richmond, TX) - Pool Amount: $148,900, Actual Bonus: $170,000

10.288 - Zack Godley, RHP, Tennessee - Pool Amount: $139,000, Actual Bonus: $35,000