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He's an absolute bafoon. Last week he was on the radio insisting Rizzo wasn't having a good year citing batting average.

 

And he said he thought his batting average had exceeded .200 when it was already past .260.

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Wittenmyer lukewarm on the deal, saying that big market teams shouldn't have to do this and you only do this because resources are limited.

 

When asked if it's a good deal, he says, "Who knows? We'll see if he's the kind of player this deal suggests he should be." - Hilarious since he could be less than he is now and be completely worth that deal.

 

 

Not posting for any other reason than to point out what a moron GDubCub is.

 

Chicago has got to have some of the laziest baseball journalists in the country, Bruce Miles excluded.

 

I feel bad for Miles. You know he probably wants to call them out for being complete idiots, but the whole "beat writer" fraternity thing, has to place nice and what not. I think Muscat has become my second favorite after Miles only because she doesn't really say anything at all. Just tweets and writes PR stuff. GDubCub has easily trolled himself to a Sullivan level and maybe even worse.

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I admitted could just be WAY behind here, but how long has ESPN listed WAR?

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/30782/anthony-rizzo

 

Pretty sure they added it in the last year. I remember them having it towards the end of last season, I think.

 

ETA: Although they may not have added it until the winter. I know at the very least they have had it since before this season started.

 

ETA2: It's just Baseball-Reference WAR, btw.

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Rob Neyer on Rizzo contract

 

Synopsis: Cubs locked up Rizzo for same time frame Reds locked up Votto, except Rizzo is 7 years younger and they're getting him for 1/3 the price.

 

And 1/3 as good

Yeah...no.

 

And even if he were just 1/3 as good as Votto this season (not even close), Votto's locked up to his age 39 season, at which point he might just be 1/3 as good as Rizzo at 31.

 

Which the article explicitly says.

 

Which means you didn't even try to read it.

 

The point I was obviously trying to make is that when one player is far and away better than the other why compare salaries

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Rob Neyer on Rizzo contract

 

Synopsis: Cubs locked up Rizzo for same time frame Reds locked up Votto, except Rizzo is 7 years younger and they're getting him for 1/3 the price.

 

And 1/3 as good

Yeah...no.

 

And even if he were just 1/3 as good as Votto this season (not even close), Votto's locked up to his age 39 season, at which point he might just be 1/3 as good as Rizzo at 31.

 

Which the article explicitly says.

 

Which means you didn't even try to read it.

 

The point I was obviously trying to make is that when one player is far and away better than the other why compare salaries

 

Votto is presently better. He's not far and away better. And when you factor in age, well....

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Rob Neyer on Rizzo contract

 

Synopsis: Cubs locked up Rizzo for same time frame Reds locked up Votto, except Rizzo is 7 years younger and they're getting him for 1/3 the price.

 

And 1/3 as good

Yeah...no.

 

And even if he were just 1/3 as good as Votto this season (not even close), Votto's locked up to his age 39 season, at which point he might just be 1/3 as good as Rizzo at 31.

 

Which the article explicitly says.

 

Which means you didn't even try to read it.

 

The point I was obviously trying to make is that when one player is far and away better than the other why compare salaries

 

Votto is presently better. He's not far and away better. And when you factor in age, well....

 

Yes the MVP is. We don't even know what Rizzo is yet.

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Yes the MVP is. We don't even know what Rizzo is yet.

 

Oh come on, you've been around here long enough to know how badly this post is going to be destroyed, so why even bother?

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Presser:

 

CHICAGO – The Chicago Cubs and first baseman Anthony Rizzo have agreed to terms on a seven-year contract (2013-19) that includes club options for an eighth season in 2020 and a ninth season in 2021. The contract covers Rizzo’s final two pre-arbitration seasons, his four arbitration seasons and his first free agent season, plus his second and third free agent seasons if the two club options are exercised. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

 

Overall, the contract at a minimum covers all of Rizzo’s playing time throughout the rest of his 20s, as the 23-year-old will turn 30 during the seventh season of this deal. If the options are exercised, it would take him to 32-years-old.

 

Since being recalled by the Cubs last June 26, Rizzo has batted .283 (136-for-480) with 25 doubles, 24 home runs and 76 RBI in only 124 games, numbers that are equivalent to 33 doubles, 31 home runs and 99 RBI when projected over the course of 162 games. Rizzo has posted a .345 on-base percentage and a .485 slugging percentage, good for an .830 OPS with the Cubs.

 

Rizzo’s 24 home runs, 136 hits and .830 OPS all rank second among National League first basemen in the span since his call-up last season, while his .283 batting average ranks third, and his 76 RBI and 25 doubles are fifth. His .995 fielding percentage at first base is tied for second among all players since last June 26.

 

Rizzo was the number one prospect in the San Diego Padres farm system when he was acquired by the Cubs on January 6, 2012 as part of a four-player trade. He batted .342 (88-for-257) with 18 doubles, two triples, 23 home runs and 62 RBI in 70 games with Iowa last season to earn the promotion to the big leagues. He posted a 1.101 OPS and departed Triple-A ranked first or among Pacific Coast League leaders in nearly every offensive category.

 

Through 37 games this year, Rizzo is batting .280 (40-for-143) with 10 doubles, nine home runs and 28 RBI. He has a .352 on-base percentage and a .538 slugging percentage, good for an .890 OPS. Rizzo’s nine homers tie for the league lead among first basemen while his 28 RBI rank second.

 

Rizzo was originally selected by the Red Sox in the sixth round of the 2007 Draft out of high school. He was limited to 21 minor league games in 2008 after being diagnosed with Limited Stage Classical Hodgkins Lymphoma in late April. He returned a season later to lead all Red Sox minor leaguers with a .368 on-base percentage.

 

The 6-foot-3, 240-pound Rizzo was named the Red Sox Offensive co-Player of the Year in 2010 before being traded to San Diego as part of the five-player deal that sent Adrian Gonzalez to Boston on December 6, 2010.

 

Rizzo began the 2011 campaign by hitting .365 (73-for-200) with 16 home runs and 63 RBI in his first 52 Triple-A games to earn his first call-up to the big leagues, making his debut on June 9. He spent six weeks in the big leagues before returning to Triple-A on July 22. Rizzo was recalled to the majors September 4 and combined to bat .141 (18-for-128) with eight doubles, one triple, one homer and nine RBI in 49 big league games in 2011.

 

The Parkland, Fla. native and his family last year began the Anthony Rizzo Family Foundation to raise money for cancer research and to provide support to children and their families battling the disease. The foundation’s inaugural “Walk Off For Cancer” charity walk last year raised nearly $100,000 for those in need.

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Hey, totally unrelated, but does anyone still have a link for one of those super cheap player jersey sites?
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Hey, totally unrelated, but does anyone still have a link for one of those super cheap player jersey sites?

I searched "rizzo cubs jersey" on eBay last night and there were jerseys floating around for 90 bucks, which I thought was pretty good.

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And to think all this ignorance could have been spared had he just actually read the article he commented on.
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Yes the MVP is. We don't even know what Rizzo is yet.

 

LOL you are so fail.

 

 

2013 wOBA:

 

Rizzo - .393

Votto - .395

 

 

He'll just come back with some dumb "sample size" argument.

 

To be fair that wouldn't be a "dumb" argument, but most of the things he has been saying are dumb.

 

Rizzo will likely be better than Votto very soon (next couple of years), and it honestly wouldn't shock me to see him end up being nearly as good this year (which I pointed out, he already has been offensively).

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Told there was no way that would happen because the two were being marketed as the “core” of the team, Sveum replied: "The bottom line is you’ve got to perform. Whether they need more development or you decide all those kind of things… There’s still that accountability. Many, many people throughout the history of the game (have been demoted). It’s a performance-laden occupation. That’s what makes the world go ‘round. That’s what makes this country what it is.”

 

The Cubs are protective of Rizzo to a fault, knowing he’s the centerpiece of the Rebuild. So Sveum and Hoyer spent the next few days trying to suggest Sveum was “pushed” by the media into making the comments, though any audiotape of the interview would prove otherwise.

 

It was obvious Sveum was trying to light a fire, and Rizzo and Castro surely felt a little heat.

 

Rizzo was hitting .173 on April 26 in Miami when he cranked a two-run, 420-foot shot to center, and then a two-run 413-foot homer into the right field upper deck, passing Billy Williams and Henry Rodriguez for most homers (8) by a Cubs’ left-handed hitter in April.

 

Protective to a fault? What the F does that mean and on what is it based?

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And, on top of that, he gives Dale all kinds of credit for bitching to the media. It's basically a roundabout way to insert himself into the story, like he's saying, "oh, if they aren't accountable to US he'd still be sucking!"
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So Sveum and Hoyer spent the next few days trying to suggest Sveum was “pushed” by the media into making the comments, though any audiotape of the interview would prove otherwise.

 

Does Sullivan know that the Trib posted a video alongside the original story that showed that was pretty much exactly what happened? Maybe he doesn't know that cameras capture audio?

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Are a few of the local guys bitter that a national writer beat them to this, trying to downplay Rizzo's talents and as a result, the importance of the extension? Maybe they're also upset they weren't able to clue people in to the fact that negotiations were happening?
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So Rizzo should probably give 50% of his contract to Sullivan and the media.
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Rizzo, literally, would have to have a freak/debilitating injury to not be worth the contract.

 

That's what I love about these types of deals for us. He could literally become crippled tomorrow and we're just writing off 6 mil a year.

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