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Sammy Sofa

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Instead, think of Jon Daniels and the Texas Rangers. Daniels became the general manager of the Rangers in 2005 and soon after rebuilt the team by discarded expensive, older players (Mark Teixeira, Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young) for younger players (Neftali Feliz, Alvis Andrus, Akinori Otsuka) and the Rangers invested heavily in their farm system.

 

Forbes talking about sports is the blurst

 

Do they think he's 42?

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truth be told, it feels like he's been around for [expletive] ever.

 

wasn't he drafted the same year we took montanez?

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he was 24 when he was traded to the padres lol
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he was 24 when he was traded to the padres lol

 

And Chris Young was 26. Otuska was 33. It was a hilariously bad trade for the Rangers, and I still have a hard time accepting Daniels as a good GM because of it 8 years later.

 

I just hope we can dump the aging Rizzo and Wood for Mike Adams this offseason.

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

 

The fact that we haven't heard a word about it in the past 4 months is mildly disconcerting

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

 

The fact that we haven't heard a word about it in the past 4 months is mildly disconcerting

 

We don't even have the radio deal in place that was supposed to be announced prior to Opening Day. The large Fox deal? The conjuring of an active imagination from someone who hasn't been right nearly enough to take seriously at this point.

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he was 24 when he was traded to the padres lol

 

And Chris Young was 26. Otuska was 33. It was a hilariously bad trade for the Rangers, and I still have a hard time accepting Daniels as a good GM because of it 8 years later.

 

I just hope we can dump the aging Rizzo and Wood for Mike Adams this offseason.

 

Also, Young and Gonzalez had a combined salary of $716,000 in 2005.

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

 

The fact that we haven't heard a word about it in the past 4 months is mildly disconcerting

 

We don't even have the radio deal in place that was supposed to be announced prior to Opening Day. The large Fox deal? The conjuring of an active imagination from someone who hasn't been right nearly enough to take seriously at this point.

 

This is going to wind up like the 2002 Expos where we wind up without an English language TV isn't it? Going to have to watch them on WGBO

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By the time 2019 rolls around we will have been bad for so long that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow might just turn out to be a mirage
Sammy Sofa GOAT

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

 

The fact that we haven't heard a word about it in the past 4 months is mildly disconcerting

 

We don't even have the radio deal in place that was supposed to be announced prior to Opening Day. The large Fox deal? The conjuring of an active imagination from someone who hasn't been right nearly enough to take seriously at this point.

 

Yeah, given how impressively the Ricketts have seemingly fucked up every single part of the rebuild outside of the farm system I have little faith that they're going to get maximum value from any kind of placeholder deal. These desperate idiots are going to get locked into another terrible contract.

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It sure does sound like 2019 now, and it's going to drive me bat [expletive] crazy waiting that long to behave like a big market team.

 

I would wait until we hear about this slate of WGN games before coming to that conclusion. I still think the big Fox deal with the local bridge makes the most sense.

 

The fact that we haven't heard a word about it in the past 4 months is mildly disconcerting

 

We don't even have the radio deal in place that was supposed to be announced prior to Opening Day. The large Fox deal? The conjuring of an active imagination from someone who hasn't been right nearly enough to take seriously at this point.

 

Mooney has been talking about it all along whenever the TV deal comes up.

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Current rough WAR 160 game pace

 

Castro - 3.7 (would be a career best)

Rizzo - 5.0 (also a career best obviously)

 

 

 

FWIW, not that it matters, but Bonifacio is up there too at like 4.1.

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Current rough WAR 160 game pace

 

Castro - 3.7 (would be a career best)

Rizzo - 5.0 (also a career best obviously)

 

 

 

FWIW, not that it matters, but Bonifacio is up there too at like 4.1.

 

Bonifacio probably accumulated all that pace in 2 games.

Sammy Sofa GOAT

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Current rough WAR 160 game pace

 

Castro - 3.7 (would be a career best)

Rizzo - 5.0 (also a career best obviously)

 

 

 

FWIW, not that it matters, but Bonifacio is up there too at like 4.1.

 

Thank goodness they won't be wasting too many cheap productive years from these two!

 

Jeepers!

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If Rizzo can somehow keep that up he is going to rack up some absurd surplus value.
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Current rough WAR 160 game pace

 

Castro - 3.7 (would be a career best)

Rizzo - 5.0 (also a career best obviously)

...Bonifacio is up there too at like 4.1.

if you do this for just the past month...

 

Castro - 3.7

Rizzo - 5.2

Bonifacio - 0.0

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Well he has been about 1.6 War guy

Anything we get above that is gravy. I have a feeling he will be a roller coaster like that all year but considering the options for us, I think WAR is skewed. On this team we should a WACR- wins above the cubs replacement. Sending out more of Barney, Sweeney, Ruggiano, and even Lake wouldn't help much.

At least he keeps those guys from hitting against their weaker side.

With what those guys might post just not being a negative war is probably a win….

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