4/16 Cubs (Wood) vs. Rangers (Holland) 7:05 CT CSN

[Old Style]

I wish someone would ear hole Nuts&Gum.

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't mind calling it a dump. Wrigley is one in a lot of aspects but saying there isn't any history because of no championships is annoying.

 

You're right; the years the Bears played there were pretty awesome.

 

Wait, you think he's right that there's no history there?

[Sammy Sofa]

I think compared to most other teams that have been around as long (or thereabouts) as the Cubs since they started playing at Wrigley they have a pretty boring history, which mostly stems from them having too many unremarkable or mediocre/bad players/teams.

 

[expletive], even the few great players they've had in that time have been pretty boring.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think compared to most other teams that have been around as long (or thereabouts) as the Cubs since they started playing at Wrigley they have a pretty boring history, which mostly stems from them having too many unremarkable or mediocre/bad players/teams.

 

[expletive], even the few great players they've had in that time have been pretty boring.

 

Ryno was great and boring, and really only had 1 signature moment in Wrigley. But Wood, Prior, Sosa and the bulk of the 60's guys were entertaining enough.

 

The level of meaningful history is certainly not what it should be for a team that has played in the same stadium in a major market that long. But it's hardly non-existent.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think compared to most other teams that have been around as long (or thereabouts) as the Cubs since they started playing at Wrigley they have a pretty boring history, which mostly stems from them having too many unremarkable or mediocre/bad players/teams.

 

[expletive], even the few great players they've had in that time have been pretty boring.

 

Ryno was great and boring, and really only had 1 signature moment in Wrigley. But Wood, Prior, Sosa and the bulk of the 60's guys were entertaining enough.

 

The level of meaningful history is certainly not what it should be for a team that has played in the same stadium in a major market that long. But it's hardly non-existent.

 

It's hardly non-existent pretty much in that it just technically exists. I love history and I love baseball, but my favorite team just has a relatively pretty boring history when compared to basically all of the other similarly long-lasting teams. Part of that is how bad they've tended to be for nearly a century at Wrigley, but a big part of it is, as you touched on, is that a lot of these guys are pretty boring (and I'd include most of the 60's greats). Some great players and (mostly) nice guys, but snoozeville otherwise.

[jersey cubs fan]

compared to basically all of the other similarly long-lasting teams.

 

That's kind of hard to come up with the proper list. The Yankees, sure. The Dodgers? They've been on opposite ends of the country and a complete non-entity for extremely long periods of time. The Giants? Without Bonds that team has had less personality than just about anybody out there? Phillies? Boooooorrrrinnngggggggg. Athletics? 3 different locations, the Bash Brothers and Moneyball. The White Sox have disco demolition. Nobody even realizes Baltimore still exists, plus two different locations. Cincy? They haven't been relevant since Vietnam. Pittsburgh? Cocaine and acid was fun. St. Louis, quality slice of white bread if there ever was one. Prior to the 2000s Boston had no more meaningful history than the Cubs. Their most meaningful play took place in Shea stadium.

 

As lackluster as it has been, I think the Cubs stack up well with just about any non-Yankees organization out there. They'd lose the argument with a couple but they aren't at the bottom of the list.

[Sammy Sofa]

We'll just have to disagree (especially since history-wise I personally find almost all of those teams more interesting than the Cubs); to me it makes sense why comprehensive baseball histories tend to have relatively few Cubs stories/historical figures.

[coldsteel]

compared to basically all of the other similarly long-lasting teams.

 

That's kind of hard to come up with the proper list. The Yankees, sure. The Dodgers? They've been on opposite ends of the country and a complete non-entity for extremely long periods of time. The Giants? Without Bonds that team has had less personality than just about anybody out there? Phillies? Boooooorrrrinnngggggggg. Athletics? 3 different locations, the Bash Brothers and Moneyball. The White Sox have disco demolition. Nobody even realizes Baltimore still exists, plus two different locations. Cincy? They haven't been relevant since Vietnam. Pittsburgh? Cocaine and acid was fun. St. Louis, quality slice of white bread if there ever was one. Prior to the 2000s Boston had no more meaningful history than the Cubs. Their most meaningful play took place in Shea stadium.

 

As lackluster as it has been, I think the Cubs stack up well with just about any non-Yankees organization out there. They'd lose the argument with a couple but they aren't at the bottom of the list.

 

And it really is a good place to drink beer. And perhaps get autographed Hostess Twinkies from that lard-encrusted Berkman back in the day.

[jersey cubs fan]

to me it makes sense why comprehensive baseball histories tend to have relatively few Cubs stories/historical figures.

 

Because by and large the history of baseball is about the history of the world series.

[neely crenshaw]

Why? He just says it's a dump (and it obviously is, especially for visiting teams), and is even self-deprecating in doing so. It's clearly in the context of "this place is a [expletive] ballpark and I'm a rich ballplayer saying so" instead of "oh, it's so utterly horrible for me to have to endure this misery." You fat crying babies. Everyone should point out how terrible it is.

 

 

That was my point. He comes off as a spoiled, whiny B. I really don't think we should hold a telethon for the tough life of multi-million dollar athlete's and their tough life.

[mul21]

I understand, but why not just leave him down there until he starts producing a bit?

 

Because there's a limit on how long a position player can stay down in the minors on a rehab assignment (15 days/games I think and 30 for a pitcher?) without having to have options available, which Stewart doesn't.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why? He just says it's a dump (and it obviously is, especially for visiting teams), and is even self-deprecating in doing so. It's clearly in the context of "this place is a [expletive] ballpark and I'm a rich ballplayer saying so" instead of "oh, it's so utterly horrible for me to have to endure this misery." You fat crying babies. Everyone should point out how terrible it is.

 

 

That was my point. He comes off as a spoiled, whiny B. I really don't think we should hold a telethon for the tough life of multi-million dollar athlete's and their tough life.

 

You don't understand things.

[Sammy Sofa]

to me it makes sense why comprehensive baseball histories tend to have relatively few Cubs stories/historical figures.

 

Because by and large the history of baseball is about the history of the world series.

 

Well, no, it's mostly because they've been bad and have had boring players. You really think most baseball books revolve around World Series stories?

[Sammy Sofa]

I mean, I had no idea that the really good Clemente bio I just finished was interesting because of the World Series.

[neely crenshaw]

Why? He just says it's a dump (and it obviously is, especially for visiting teams), and is even self-deprecating in doing so. It's clearly in the context of "this place is a [expletive] ballpark and I'm a rich ballplayer saying so" instead of "oh, it's so utterly horrible for me to have to endure this misery." You fat crying babies. Everyone should point out how terrible it is.

 

 

That was my point. He comes off as a spoiled, whiny B. I really don't think we should hold a telethon for the tough life of multi-million dollar athlete's and their tough life.

 

You don't understand things.

 

You're right on that one. I thought you were questioning my sarcastic comment on feeling sorry for Lance.

[neely crenshaw]

Is it game time yet?

[Little Slide Rooter]

I think compared to most other teams that have been around as long (or thereabouts) as the Cubs since they started playing at Wrigley they have a pretty boring history, which mostly stems from them having too many unremarkable or mediocre/bad players/teams.

 

[expletive], even the few great players they've had in that time have been pretty boring.

 

Ryno was great and boring, and really only had 1 signature moment in Wrigley. But Wood, Prior, Sosa and the bulk of the 60's guys were entertaining enough.

 

The level of meaningful history is certainly not what it should be for a team that has played in the same stadium in a major market that long. But it's hardly non-existent.

 

That's just it though. Throughout the mid-late 90s, they basically stuffed [expletive] into uniforms to surround Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg, and Mark Grace, occasionally adding a Luis Gonzalez or Henry Rodriguez in hopes that it would mask the fact that they didn't like pitchers.

[DiamondMind]

Wrigley IS a dump.

[Tracer Bullet]

We'll just have to disagree (especially since history-wise I personally find almost all of those teams more interesting than the Cubs); to me it makes sense why comprehensive baseball histories tend to have relatively few Cubs stories/historical figures.

 

Weird.

[Old Style]

Wrigley IS a dump.

It may be, but it's OUR dump and that [expletive] Berkman should stuff his fat face with Twinkies instead of talking [expletive] about Wrigley. It like family. I can talk [expletive] about my family, but no one outside of the family can or we're going to have issues.

[Sammy Sofa]

Your family's a dump.

[Little Slide Rooter]

@BruceMiles2112: Kerry Wood helping out at first base. Maybe he can close. #Cubs http://t.co/veVOrr9B9a

 

Facetious or not, at this point I'd take it and run.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'll be there, freezing my ass off.

[Guest]

 

[Sammy Sofa]

Ewwwwww, Dave Sappelt starting.