Lillibridge

[RynoRules]

yeah, or we could sit and watch crappy weather and hope there's a game..that's productive. lighten up and have some fun at Lillibridge's expense.

 

We have...I have...plenty in the game threads. Just seems a bit silly to start a thread to rip a guy that is either going to be DFA'd or buried at the bottom of the bench in a few days, and who has no long term ramifications for the team whatsoever.

 

But whatever...carry on.

 

There's been like 2 conversations on this board since opening day. I don't see the point in discouraging posts from occurring.

 

Then start an interesting conversation about the cubs.

 

I did. The topic is a guy on the ML roster and cites stats in support of an argument that he shouldn't be there. Now we have editorializing instead.

 

Honestly, should we just have a catch-all thread where we are permitted to discuss poor performers and suggestions for replacing them?

[Little Slide Rooter]

 

Lillibridge has been all too frequently used even if the season has just begun.

 

My thinking is that a lot managers love these types of gritty, max effort players because it's what they were in their own playing days and they still havn't come to grips with the fact that they too were bad.

[RynoRules]

 

Lillibridge has been all too frequently used even if the season has just begun.

 

My thinking is that a lot managers love these types of gritty, max effort players because it's what they were in their own playing days and they still havn't come to grips with the fact that they too were bad.

 

Hoyer and Theo must also think he has some value.

[Banedon]

Well this does have 24 posts in 2 hours.

 

Well yeah, but half the thread is about whether or not the thread should exist.

 

But whatever...I had my say.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hoyer and Theo must also think he has some value.

 

What a depressing thought.

[biittner77]

Lillibridge is not even worth hating. In his defense, if he were someone people did like, people would be saying "small sample size" regarding his 1 for 20 or whatever he's done so far.

[jersey cubs fan]

Lillibridge is not even worth hating. In his defense, if he were someone people did like, people would be saying "small sample size" regarding his 1 for 20 or whatever he's done so far.

 

That is not a defense.

 

If a sucky player has a sucky stretch of play, pointing out he sucks is not negated by a small sample size. If he was good and went 1-20 it would be a different situation. If he was bad and went 10-20 he'd still be bad.

[biittner77]

Lillibridge is not even worth hating. In his defense, if he were someone people did like, people would be saying "small sample size" regarding his 1 for 20 or whatever he's done so far.

 

That is not a defense.

 

If a sucky player has a sucky stretch of play, pointing out he sucks is not negated by a small sample size. If he was good and went 1-20 it would be a different situation. If he was bad and went 10-20 he'd still be bad.

 

I see what you're saying, however, if a scrappy white dude went 10-20 there would be plenty of people saying he was good.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I see what you're saying, however, if a scrappy white dude went 10-20 there would be plenty of people saying he was good.

 

I'm enjoying the fact that he's drawn so much vitriol, but it is for the wrong reason. Everyone should have been annoyed back in January when it was clear they were gift-wrapping him a roster spot for unclear reasons.

[neely crenshaw]

You're right when you say he's not worth hating. I don't hate him. I hate the fact that our team decided to put him on their 25 man roster. AND I hate that an injury caused him to have to play way too much.

 

He's a deep back up for a not very good team. He would not make a roster of anyone close to contending. A career .208 hitter, with a .272 ob% and .613 obs, and I'm not real impressed with his defense so far.

Plain and simple, bad is as bad does...or something like that.

[UK1679666180]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

[Guest]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

[jersey cubs fan]

It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up

 

Theoretically important at least.

[UK1679666180]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

 

I'd say so. I'd feel better with Sweeney's bat than Sappelt's as a 4th OF'er type.

[SouthSideRyan]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

 

I'd say so. I'd feel better with Sweeney's bat than Sappelt's as a 4th OF'er type.

 

I'd feel better with a guy who can actually hit lefties.

[Backtobanks]

You know your team isn't very good when there's discussion about who the 25th man on the roster should be. Unfortunately the Cubs have far too many candidates.

[UK1679666180]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

 

I'd say so. I'd feel better with Sweeney's bat than Sappelt's as a 4th OF'er type.

 

I'd feel better with a guy who can actually hit lefties.

 

Why? They're not doing much better vs. RH'ers either. For me, its about getting the better players out there and while there's only a slight value difference there, Sweeney is a better ballplayer than Sappelt.

[Rob]

Sweeney is a 5th OF / defensive sub type. More important than that, he's a known quantity.

 

We really don't know what we have with Sappelt. If we were discussing a guy to be the starter, I'd see the argument for Sweeney. But since the role is a short side of the platoon and occasional pinch hitter, there's no reason not to use Sappelt right now. He could always surprise us and look a bit better than expected.

[SouthSideRyan]

You know your team isn't very good when there's discussion about who the 25th man on the roster should be.

 

This makes no [expletive] sense

[Guest]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

 

I'd say so. I'd feel better with Sweeney's bat than Sappelt's as a 4th OF'er type.

 

I'd feel better with a guy who can actually hit lefties.

 

Why? They're not doing much better vs. RH'ers either. For me, its about getting the better players out there and while there's only a slight value difference there, Sweeney is a better ballplayer than Sappelt.

 

I don't think there's an OF against RHP where Sweeney cracks the starting lineup unless there's an injury or trade, and obviously he shouldn't be playing against LHP. Sappelt offers likely improvement over the alternative(DeJesus or Sweeney) against LHP, so if you want actual production Sappelt's the guy. Moreover, I don't think we can definitively say that Sweeney is a superior player based on their histories to this point, and Sappelt has age, service time, and handedness also in his favor.

[SouthSideRyan]

I just wish the Cubs would call-up Sweeney sooner rather than later. It's more important to have a possibly capable bat in this line-up than carrying an extra 5th OF'er/defensive replacement/pinch-runner as the 25th guy.

 

Is Sweeney much more likely to be a capable bat than Sappelt at this point?

 

I'd say so. I'd feel better with Sweeney's bat than Sappelt's as a 4th OF'er type.

 

I'd feel better with a guy who can actually hit lefties.

 

Why? They're not doing much better vs. RH'ers either. For me, its about getting the better players out there and while there's only a slight value difference there, Sweeney is a better ballplayer than Sappelt.

 

Because we have 2 left-handed ends of a platoon in our OF, and replacing Sappelt with Sweeney because...I don't know why would leave us with some terrible bat out there every 4 games.

[neely crenshaw]

I think we have many candidates for the horrible bat position.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think we have many candidates for the horrible bat position.

 

So let's add more.

[Backtobanks]

You know your team isn't very good when there's discussion about who the 25th man on the roster should be.

 

This makes no [expletive] sense

 

If you have a good team, the discussion is about the players that actually contribute on a daily basis. We're discussing which of 4-5 candidates ought to sitting on the end of the bench or DFAd.

[SouthSideRyan]

You know your team isn't very good when there's discussion about who the 25th man on the roster should be.

 

This makes no [expletive] sense

 

If you have a good team, the discussion is about the players that actually contribute on a daily basis. We're discussing which of 4-5 candidates ought to sitting on the end of the bench or DFAd.

 

Yeah the backend of the roster was never discussed in '08.