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I'm excited - this is the first year I've been home and able to follow the draft and then free to join in on the conference call in a while.

 

Can't wait to see how it all shakes out tonight.

 

Other than having some beer while following along. I already know how that part will work out. :)

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Jonathan Mayo's final mock has the Cubs taking Kyle Schwarber, passing up Jackson and Gordon.

 

4. Chicago Cubs: Kyle Schwarber, C, Indiana

Ideally, the Cubs would like Rodon or Aiken to somehow get here. If they are gone, though, the Cubs could go off the board a bit with a college hitter, perhaps saving money to be more aggressive later on.

 

Jim Callis' final mock has the Cuba passing on Jackson and Gordon for Michael Conforto:

 

4. Cubs: Michael Conforto, OF, Oregon State

The Cubs covet pitching, but if Aiken and Rodon aren't available, they likely will take a position player over Kolek or Nola. The Cubs would bypass Jackson to take Olympia High (Orlando, Fla.) shortstop Nick Gordon if they consider only talent. They're also mulling a discounted deal with one of four college position players, then using the savings to sign pitchers taken later in the Draft. Conforto and Kennesaw State catcher Max Pentecost are higher in Chicago's pecking order than Indiana catcher/outfielder Kyle Schwarber and North Carolina State shortstop Trea Turner.

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My personal hope:

 

1) Rodon

2) Aiken

3) Schwarber

4) Jackson

 

Then I'd rate the other options:

 

5) Nola

6) Pentecost

7) Kolek

8) Gordon

9) Confordo

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Freeland's medicals appear to have him dropping.

 

Type of thing that seems to happen on draft day, even though most if not all teams' doctors cleared him for this draft.

 

ETA: Just saw this tweet now: @kileymcd: Freeland medical described as "bad" by one scouting dir; could still go to 8/COL for deep discount. Some teams in 20s saying they'll pass.

 

Wonder if that's posturing or what. Teams generally get more conservative on draft day than they need to when it comes to players with injury issues.

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Would a Conforto/Schwarber even be in our top 10 prospects?

 

Definitely. There's a major drop off after the top 5.

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I haven't really kept up 100% with all the draft news. Why do people see the Cubs as passing on Jackson now?

 

That's what all the folks in the media are saying and they're all connected at some level.

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My fav. day of the year. Didn't do as much as I'd like with the weather. Cant wait to see where Skoug goes, hopefully with the Cubs in the 3rd, tomorrow.

 

Did you see Sam Travis in high school?

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Would a Conforto/Schwarber even be in our top 10 prospects?

 

Definitely. There's a major drop off after the top 5.

Yeah I'd think either would come in ahead of Vogelbach, Villanueva, Candelario, etc.

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Would a Conforto/Schwarber even be in our top 10 prospects?

 

Definitely. There's a major drop off after the top 5.

Yeah I'd think either would come in ahead of Vogelbach, Villanueva, Candelario, etc.

 

None of those three are in my top 10 anymore and I'd take a guy like Conforto/Schwarber over Edwards, Johnson and Tseng (injury questions), Vizcaino (injury history/relief profile), Torres (no pro history) and Hendricks.

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@KendallRogersPG: One coach on @KSUOwlsBaseball C Max Pentecost: “I’ve coached against Posey and Zunino. Pentecost is right there with those guys.” #MLBDraft
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@jessespector: Draft day, when you can moan about your team getting a guy you’ve never seen play baseball instead of a guy you’ve never seen play baseball.

just awful

 

even if i'd seen all these guys play, i'd still probably defer to the industry consensus over what my own uninformed eyes told me...passing on a consensus top-3 player for a player who's not even agreed upon to be clearly top-10 would be understandably disappointing to people

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I think Schwarber has catapulted himself to #2 for me, behind Aiken. I think my list currently stands at:

 

1) Aiken

2) Schwarber

3) Pentecost

4) Jackson

5) Conforto

6) Nola

7) Rodon

8) Gordon

9) Kolek

10) Hoffman

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4

Michael Conforto

SCHOOL: Oregon State

HT: 6-1

WT: 215

POS: OF

Analysis: Brady Aiken stops here. The Cubs are also considering other college bats, including Kyle Schwarber, Max Pentecost and Trea Turner, but Conforto is the most likely candidate.

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Well, Conforto's mom is pretty hot...I bet he's got a smokin sister.

 

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I asked the sportswriters at the Bloomington Herald-Times who have watched a bunch of IU baseball games (local paper in town) about Schwarber.

 

QUESTION: Where do you think Kyle Schwarber will be drafted tonight in the MLB draft? Have you heard any rumors from the Indiana side of things as to what teams are interested in him? Do you think he will be able to play catcher or left field at the major league level?

 

Jeff, Columbus

 

JEREMY: Jeff,

 

Reports I've seen would indicate Schwarber goes in the top 10. Dustin probably has studied the details a little more.

 

In my opinion, Schwarber winds up in left field. That's in part because he has the athletic ability to do so and also because his bat is probably not that far from major league ready. His catching, on the other hand, probably has a bit more work to do, not that it's out of the question. If a team wants his bat in the majors sooner than later, left field is probably the spot, though having a big bat at the catcher position is a luxury any team would love to have. Just my two cents.

 

DUSTIN: Talked to a scout about that this week. He works for an American League club with a pick near the bottom of the draft and he doesn't expect Schwarber to be available when his team picks. CBS Sports.com actually has him going to the Chicago Cubs at No. 4. USA Today has him going No. 23 to the Tigers. I've seen him going to the Pittsburgh Pirates at No. 24 and a lot of other places in between. He might be the best college bat in the draft, although I don't think he'll go higher than Michael Conforto of Oregon State because Conforto is the better all-around player. he definitely won't slip out of the first round.

 

I don't know if he'll be able to catch or not. Scouts are kind of 50-50 on that. Based on what I'm hearing, teams will let him at least try to catch when he starts his professional career, and if they decide from what they see then that he can't do it then they'll make a move. His bat is such that they'll find a place for him. Left field is kind of an option � though he isn't great there � but he could play first base as well. But have heard indications that he will at least have the chance to be a major league catcher.

 

ANDY: Jeff:

 

Saw a report last night that had Kyle projected at No. 4 to the Cubs (a fate I wouldn't wish on anybody), but have seen him anywhere from there to around 20th, with most guesses around the 15-17 range. He's pretty much a certain first-round pick, it seems, and I would certainly think that is fully merited. And it seems major league scouts are pretty evenly split as to whether or not he'll catch or play outfield (or even end up at first base.)

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@KendallRogersPG: One coach on @KSUOwlsBaseball C Max Pentecost: “I’ve coached against Posey and Zunino. Pentecost is right there with those guys.” #MLBDraft

 

But Zunino isn't "right there" with Posey...

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Zack (Ann Arbor)

Hey Keith, Cubs desperately need pitching. Why not take a college arm like Newcomb or Nola if the top 3 arms are gone?

Klaw 1:14 PM ET

I think Nola is gone. If they feel Newcomb is too raw, closer to a HS pitcher than a college guy, it would make some sense to grab a polished bat - especially one like Conforto, who gets on base, something several Cub prospects are allergic to - and then go for pitching in later rounds.

 

 

Justin (Chicago)

Does Michael Conforto have the highest floor for college hitters and an obvious quick mover through minors?

Klaw 1:15 PM ET

Yes.

 

rudeboy (Albany, NY)

What does Michael Conforto look like defensively? Have heard a lot of conflicting reports. Any chance he sticks in the OF and is at least competent?

Klaw 1:26 PM ET

No doubt LF for me. Floor is avg, ceiling is 60.

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