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Not sure how many people follow Twitter, but the saddest part is how more fans seem to be stressing about Campana being traded than Matt Garza potentially missing the start of the season.

 

And I can't be the only one who notices that there wasn't this type of fan uproar when Joey Gathright and Freddy Bynum, who were essentially better versions of Tony Campana were traded. Surely there must be some reason.

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I'm not sure which is more difficult to believe: that they were able to get anything for Campana or that the D Bags didn't just wait a couple more days and put in a waiver claim. Could it be that they were afraid another team might be interested and beat them to the punch? They must have at least told them that the later was the case.

 

How do waiver claims work in the off season? Is it first come first served?

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I'm not sure which is more difficult to believe: that they were able to get anything for Campana or that the D Bags didn't just wait a couple more days and put in a waiver claim. Could it be that they were afraid another team might be interested and beat them to the punch? They must have at least told them that the later was the case.

 

How do waiver claims work in the off season? Is it first come first served?

I would imagine just like the regular season, using reverse standings (based on 2012 finish) with the worst team getting first choice to claim that's in the same league with the team that DFA'd the player then moving over to the other league if/when every other team in the same league passes and starting over from reverse standings there.

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Arizona had the 7th waiver claim. It goes by inverse record inside the league, before heading to the opposite league. Arizona obviously wanted him and must have thought other teams did as well. A good example of how waivers works is that Sandy Rosario guy we claimed earlier in the offseason. Trying to remember the exacts, but he was dealt to Oakland or Boston, DFA'd, picked up by the other one, DFA'd again, and we picked him up after he made it all the way through the AL. When we DFA'd him, the Giants claimed him, as the last possible NL team that could have and he passed back thru the AL again(as he had a week or so before). We would have kept him in our system basically, if not for the Giants.
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And I can't be the only one who notices that there wasn't this type of fan uproar when Joey Gathright and Freddy Bynum, who were essentially better versions of Tony Campana were traded. Surely there must be some reason.

 

I can appreciate the point you are attempting to make, but you whiff big time on this.

 

Gathright and Bynum might have been the same type players, but they weren't anywhere near as productive as Campana during their stints with the Cubs to make fans love them. Heck, Bynum had fewer stolen bases his entire career than Campana did last year.

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Is there an actual uproar or a manufactured uproar where the media constantly reminds people that the guy was a fan favorite?

 

What, all of the wonderful Twitter/Facebook rage is made up?

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Is there an actual uproar or a manufactured uproar where the media constantly reminds people that the guy was a fan favorite?

 

What, all of the wonderful Twitter/Facebook rage is made up?

 

I don't follow random cubs fans on twitter or facebook so I'm not aware of it. I'm sure somebody somewhere is upset, but an actual uproar with a sizable portion of the fanbase?

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Is there an actual uproar or a manufactured uproar where the media constantly reminds people that the guy was a fan favorite?

 

What, all of the wonderful Twitter/Facebook rage is made up?

 

I don't follow random cubs fans on twitter or facebook so I'm not aware of it. I'm sure somebody somewhere is upset, but an actual uproar with a sizable portion of the fanbase?

They are like "the base" of the republican party. Small, but very vocal and misguided.

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Is there an actual uproar or a manufactured uproar where the media constantly reminds people that the guy was a fan favorite?

 

What, all of the wonderful Twitter/Facebook rage is made up?

 

I don't follow random cubs fans on twitter or facebook so I'm not aware of it. I'm sure somebody somewhere is upset, but an actual uproar with a sizable portion of the fanbase?

 

I could not possibly give less of a [expletive] as to the actual percentages of meatballs out there; they exist, they're hilarious, and nobody is "following random Cubs fans." Things like @FacebookCubs exist, you goober.

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They're hilarious but their existence frustrates me way more than I like to admit.
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We all may disagree on [expletive] here, but if you happened to walk up on someone from here that had Cubs gear on and started a conversation, you'd at least walk away thinking the guy knows his [expletive], for the most part. We're in the vast minority though. Most fans are casual anyway, which puts them much more likely to be a meatball. They probably let Kaplan, Sullivan, etc help form their opinions for them. I'm not sure how you guys IN Chicago can talk to the typical Cub fan(what I think of anyway) without punching the dude in the nuts after about two sentences.
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Something weird is going on. My dad who constantly complains that the Cubs don't bunt or steal enough, thinks Luis Valbuena is the future stud at third base and is the ultimate supporter of grit (and therefore loved Tony Campana) texted me yesterday applauding Theo for getting something for Campana since there wasn't room for him and he's not really valuable to the team at this point.

 

This morning he texted me that he's anxious to see if the Cubs get anything for Soriano since he doesn't think the Cubs will contend this year. A month ago he was convinced they were definitely going to finish at least .500. To put that in context he was pretty upset when they didn't resign Aramis and didn't like the deadline deals last year "unless they resign these guys as free agents." He thought the 100+ loss season was Hendry's fault but didn't like that Theo didn't put a good team on the field last year.

 

I want to know what blog he stumbled across.

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As a 24th or 25th guy, Campana might have a little value, but not to a rebuilding team. This is essentially turning nothing into something.

 

I don't get this, other than in the generic "we don't need any players at all because we're rebuilding."

 

If he has a small amount of value, then I don't see why a bad team wouldn't benefit from his stolen bases even more because of their lack of SLG.

 

 

The point is the two young pitchers are of more value to a rebuilding franchise than a 5th outfielder. You have to build the core first - players of Campana's value are relatively easy and cheap to find and acquire.

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when did the meatballs make Campana's one dimensional super power, speed, more valuable than other one dimensional super powers like power, getting on base, playing good defense? The Cub fans at work today were somewhat insufferable.

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