2013 College Football off-season

[Sammy Sofa]

He talked to a girl dozens of times. So did his dad. This wasn't one guy that did it all.

 

She called him at the ESPN awards banquet to say she wasn't dead. Jesus

 

So it was a gang of people duping him? What a load of [expletive] [expletive]. MAYBE if there was seemingly some kind of effort to blackmail him or something, but instead we're supposed to just believe it was an epic prank multiple people were in on...and it was a prank they only did for their own benefit and they didn't reveal it to anyone at all?

Even the smartest, funniest, most dick-headed secret Internet community couldn't pull off this con, and I know we're not all unfamiliar with a community like that.

 

Even IF I were able to accept all of the unbelievable facts that would contribute to Te'o being a victim, I don't think even the best trolls could pull this off.

Like seriously, no one complicit sees all the coverage of his dead girl and has even the modicum of humanity it would take to create a fake gmail account to tell him he should probs ease up on the tasteless pimping of his dead GF en route to a doomed heisman run? No one has even a shred of a conscience in the group. Not his bud? Not the fake girl stand in? Not anyone they told?

 

[expletive], I'm going the opposite way and saying that the ultimate scumbaggery of the kind of people that would do a RL trolling like this would prevent them from not bragging about it somewhere.

[wolf stansson]

By the way, all the PSU fans who got deservedly ridiculed for being naive about their dumb football program can at least rest easy knowing incredible bias exists in all these dumb, big-time college sports fan bases. Never fails that college sports create the most loyal, easily duped dipshits in all of sports.

[Tracer Bullet]

He talked to a girl dozens of times. So did his dad. This wasn't one guy that did it all.

 

She called him at the ESPN awards banquet to say she wasn't dead. Jesus

 

So it was a gang of people duping him? What a load of [expletive] [expletive]. MAYBE if there was seemingly some kind of effort to blackmail him or something, but instead we're supposed to just believe it was an epic prank multiple people were in on...and it was a prank they only did for their own benefit and they didn't reveal it to anyone at all?

Even the smartest, funniest, most dick-headed secret Internet community couldn't pull off this con, and I know we're not all unfamiliar with a community like that.

 

Even IF I were able to accept all of the unbelievable facts that would contribute to Te'o being a victim, I don't think even the best trolls could pull this off.

Like seriously, no one complicit sees all the coverage of his dead girl and has even the modicum of humanity it would take to create a fake gmail account to tell him he should probs ease up on the tasteless pimping of his dead GF en route to a doomed heisman run? No one has even a shred of a conscience in the group. Not his bud? Not the fake girl stand in? Not anyone they told?

 

Which facts are unbelievable? I just need a reason Te'o would risk everything for this? Put career at risk for no benefit at all? Why?

[Sammy Sofa]

He talked to a girl dozens of times. So did his dad. This wasn't one guy that did it all.

 

She called him at the ESPN awards banquet to say she wasn't dead. Jesus

 

So it was a gang of people duping him? What a load of [expletive] [expletive]. MAYBE if there was seemingly some kind of effort to blackmail him or something, but instead we're supposed to just believe it was an epic prank multiple people were in on...and it was a prank they only did for their own benefit and they didn't reveal it to anyone at all?

Even the smartest, funniest, most dick-headed secret Internet community couldn't pull off this con, and I know we're not all unfamiliar with a community like that.

 

Even IF I were able to accept all of the unbelievable facts that would contribute to Te'o being a victim, I don't think even the best trolls could pull this off.

Like seriously, no one complicit sees all the coverage of his dead girl and has even the modicum of humanity it would take to create a fake gmail account to tell him he should probs ease up on the tasteless pimping of his dead GF en route to a doomed heisman run? No one has even a shred of a conscience in the group. Not his bud? Not the fake girl stand in? Not anyone they told?

 

Which facts are unbelievable? I just need a reason Te'o would risk everything for this? Put career at risk for no benefit at all? Why?

 

Because he's an idiot.

 

I mean, you could ask the same thing of the legions of rapists that have passed through their hallowed campus, but they did what they did, too.

[Tracer Bullet]

He talked to a girl dozens of times. So did his dad. This wasn't one guy that did it all.

 

She called him at the ESPN awards banquet to say she wasn't dead. Jesus

 

So it was a gang of people duping him? What a load of [expletive] [expletive]. MAYBE if there was seemingly some kind of effort to blackmail him or something, but instead we're supposed to just believe it was an epic prank multiple people were in on...and it was a prank they only did for their own benefit and they didn't reveal it to anyone at all?

Even the smartest, funniest, most dick-headed secret Internet community couldn't pull off this con, and I know we're not all unfamiliar with a community like that.

 

Even IF I were able to accept all of the unbelievable facts that would contribute to Te'o being a victim, I don't think even the best trolls could pull this off.

Like seriously, no one complicit sees all the coverage of his dead girl and has even the modicum of humanity it would take to create a fake gmail account to tell him he should probs ease up on the tasteless pimping of his dead GF en route to a doomed heisman run? No one has even a shred of a conscience in the group. Not his bud? Not the fake girl stand in? Not anyone they told?

 

Which facts are unbelievable? I just need a reason Te'o would risk everything for this? Put career at risk for no benefit at all? Why?

 

Because he's an idiot.

 

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

[Guest]

He talked to a girl dozens of times. So did his dad. This wasn't one guy that did it all.

 

She called him at the ESPN awards banquet to say she wasn't dead. Jesus

 

So it was a gang of people duping him? What a load of [expletive] [expletive]. MAYBE if there was seemingly some kind of effort to blackmail him or something, but instead we're supposed to just believe it was an epic prank multiple people were in on...and it was a prank they only did for their own benefit and they didn't reveal it to anyone at all?

Even the smartest, funniest, most dick-headed secret Internet community couldn't pull off this con, and I know we're not all unfamiliar with a community like that.

 

Even IF I were able to accept all of the unbelievable facts that would contribute to Te'o being a victim, I don't think even the best trolls could pull this off.

Like seriously, no one complicit sees all the coverage of his dead girl and has even the modicum of humanity it would take to create a fake gmail account to tell him he should probs ease up on the tasteless pimping of his dead GF en route to a doomed heisman run? No one has even a shred of a conscience in the group. Not his bud? Not the fake girl stand in? Not anyone they told?

Well, the 'fake girl stand-in', or whoever she was, apparently was the one who told Te'o about it.

 

As the real or fake Warren Sapp tweeted, had they never heard of Skype? Probably the #1 friend of any long distance relationship.

[Andy]

By the way, all the PSU fans who got deservedly ridiculed for being naive about their dumb football program can at least rest easy knowing incredible bias exists in all these dumb, big-time college sports fan bases. Never fails that college sports create the most loyal, easily duped dipshits in all of sports.

This is absolutely true.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason.

 

And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious."

Edited January 17, 2013 by Sammy Sofa

[Andy]

From ESPN.com article on the situation:

 

Reagan Mauia, an Arizona Cardinals full back, said he believes Kekua existed because he met her in person when he and other Polynesian teammates and Pittsburgh Steelers star Troy Polamalu went to do charity work in American Samoa in June 2011. "This was before her and Manti," Mauia said Wednesday evening. "I don't think Manti was even in the picture, but she and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to her family. When she was going through the loss of her father, I was -- I offered a comforting shoulder and just someone to bounce her emotions off. That was just from meeting her in Samoa." Mauia said Tuiasosopo -- whom Mauia believes is Kekua's cousin -- introduced the two. After the initial meeting, Mauia said he met her at an "after-party" for all of the athletes involved in the camp. "She was tall," he said. "Volleyball-type of physique. She was athletic, tall, beautiful. Long hair. Polynesian. She looked like a model ... " He said it is his understanding that Kekua's mother is operating her Twitter account. He said he'd never met her mother. When told by a reporter that she apparently might not have existed, Mauia said "No, she is real."

 

I hope some journalist goes after this.

[imb]

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

i feel like you're typing these posts out primarily for my benefit and thank you

[Magnetic Curses]

 

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

nobody loses their mind like you over notre dame.

 

and my reason is he's a crazy serial liar or he's gay or he wanted to win the heisman bad enough that he invented a human interest story. there are many.

[OleMissCub]

From ESPN.com article on the situation:

 

Reagan Mauia, an Arizona Cardinals full back, said he believes Kekua existed because he met her in person when he and other Polynesian teammates and Pittsburgh Steelers star Troy Polamalu went to do charity work in American Samoa in June 2011. "This was before her and Manti," Mauia said Wednesday evening. "I don't think Manti was even in the picture, but she and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to her family. When she was going through the loss of her father, I was -- I offered a comforting shoulder and just someone to bounce her emotions off. That was just from meeting her in Samoa." Mauia said Tuiasosopo -- whom Mauia believes is Kekua's cousin -- introduced the two. After the initial meeting, Mauia said he met her at an "after-party" for all of the athletes involved in the camp. "She was tall," he said. "Volleyball-type of physique. She was athletic, tall, beautiful. Long hair. Polynesian. She looked like a model ... " He said it is his understanding that Kekua's mother is operating her Twitter account. He said he'd never met her mother. When told by a reporter that she apparently might not have existed, Mauia said "No, she is real."

 

I hope some journalist goes after this.

 

She's effing Keyser Soze

[Sammy Sofa]

From ESPN.com article on the situation:

 

Reagan Mauia, an Arizona Cardinals full back, said he believes Kekua existed because he met her in person when he and other Polynesian teammates and Pittsburgh Steelers star Troy Polamalu went to do charity work in American Samoa in June 2011. "This was before her and Manti," Mauia said Wednesday evening. "I don't think Manti was even in the picture, but she and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to her family. When she was going through the loss of her father, I was -- I offered a comforting shoulder and just someone to bounce her emotions off. That was just from meeting her in Samoa." Mauia said Tuiasosopo -- whom Mauia believes is Kekua's cousin -- introduced the two. After the initial meeting, Mauia said he met her at an "after-party" for all of the athletes involved in the camp. "She was tall," he said. "Volleyball-type of physique. She was athletic, tall, beautiful. Long hair. Polynesian. She looked like a model ... " He said it is his understanding that Kekua's mother is operating her Twitter account. He said he'd never met her mother. When told by a reporter that she apparently might not have existed, Mauia said "No, she is real."

 

I hope some journalist goes after this.

 

Oh my God, this just gets better and better.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

conversely, what reason would someone have to concoct this whole zany scheme only to keep it to themselves as an inside, but hilarious, joke?

[RynoRules]

i wanted to skype her i really did but she said she was a spy and had to go to paris for a spy conference sooo

 

She said she was the daughter of Sidney Poitier.

[wolf stansson]

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason.

 

And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious."

I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible.

 

What I'm saying is that as a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantially much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor.

 

Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense.

Edited January 17, 2013 by wolf stansson

[Magnetic Curses]

i wanted to skype her i really did but she said she was a spy and had to go to paris for a spy conference sooo

 

She said she was the daughter of Sidney Poitier.

 

and of average puerto rican height

[Andy]

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason.

 

And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious."

I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible.

 

What I'm saying is that a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantial lay much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor.

 

Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense.

I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it.

[imb]

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason.

 

And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious."

I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible.

 

What I'm saying is that a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantial lay much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor.

 

Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense.

I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it.

 

what was his option at that point

[Sammy Sofa]

I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it.

 

If he was dumb enough to drag it out this long there's a good chance he's dumb enough to think his tracks are covered. Besides, are you saying ND wouldn't be as hard on him if he admitted to it now as opposed to if investigators discover it? That's pretty [expletive] of them.

Edited January 17, 2013 by Sammy Sofa

[Magnetic Curses]

WHY WOULD HE [expletive] THANK HIS GIRLFRIEND'S FAMILY FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE

[Andy]

Yeah. So you have no reason.

 

It's funny watching people I genuinely respect absolutely lose their minds

 

He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason.

 

And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious."

I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible.

 

What I'm saying is that a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantial lay much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor.

 

Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense.

I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it.

 

what was his option at that point

Ask Mandel, I didn't say it.

[wolf stansson]

As someone who thinks he probably did this, I'm operating under the belief that he's been dumb/crazy long before this past Christmas.

[Magnetic Curses]

As someone who thinks he probably did this, I'm operating under the belief that he's been dumb/crazy long before this past Christmas.

 

yeah, he's probably a serial liar and this one just got out of hand.

[Wilson A2000]

Were there rumors of Te'o being gay before today?