The WTF are the Dodgers Doing Thread

[Hairyducked Idiot]

ETA: I'm applying for the copyright to the NSBB Avengers, so nobody think about stealing it. Kyle as Tony Stark seems like a good place to start the casting.

 

If I had known it would cause people to be nice to me, I would have encouraged my wife to whore it up years ago.

 

At this point, I think we're gonna need proof so we know you didn't make up this story for the sake of popularity.

 

So this is a bad time to ask to be let back into Other Sports?

[Tracer Bullet]

It's never a bad time to ask.

[treebird]

can we change the thread title NOW?

[SABR Gamer]

Looking back on this, not sure why I thought I would need a copyright and not a TM!

[SABR Gamer]

can we change the thread title NOW?

 

Yes.

 

"Treymon and CubinNY publicly apologize to NYCF"

[Tyrant]

That discussion was just about the worst thing ever

[Guest]

I'm sorry you're so wrong and so confident you're right. It hurts me that this is the state of education in America.

[jersey cubs fan]

av·er·age

ˈav(ə)rij/Submit

noun

1.

the result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean.

"the housing prices there are twice the national average"

synonyms: mean, median, mode; More

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Synonym only means it has a similar meaning.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm sorry you're so wrong and so confident you're right. It hurts me that this is the state of education in America.

 

You're the [expletive] statistics professor who doesn't know that mean, media, and mode are all forms of averages

Edited September 13, 2013 by SouthSideRyan

[SouthSideRyan]

av·er·age

ˈav(ə)rij/Submit

noun

1.

the result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean.

"the housing prices there are twice the national average"

synonyms: mean, median, mode; More

.

 

Synonym only means it has a similar meaning.

 

Similar in that they are all averages.

[Tyrant]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/enough-internet.gif

[Guest]

av·er·age

ˈav(ə)rij/Submit

noun

1.

the result obtained by adding several quantities together and then dividing this total by the number of quantities; the mean.

"the housing prices there are twice the national average"

synonyms: mean, median, mode; More

.

 

Synonym only means it has a similar meaning.

 

Similar in that they are all averages.

they are not all averages, the are all measures of central tendency. It's fricken high school level knowledge. There is nothing arrogant about it. They are different measures of group data used for different purposes with different meanings.

 

http://www.regentsprep.org/regents/math/algebra/ad2/measure.htm

[WrigleyField 22]

Your mistake here is thinking average means what you think it means. No one is disputing the specific and unique definitions of mean, median, and mode. You seem to think average only is defined as mean, which just isn't the case (although probably the most frequent since its the easiest to calculate and most often used). Simply put if you we're trying to have a meaningful statistics discussion you wouldn't use average at all because its not a statistics term but an just a normal English word.

[WrigleyField 22]

Also in the discussion of baseball wins and using payroll as an input that correlates to wins I care much more about my position relative to the median than the mean. So in normal discussion it's perfectly reasonable to bring up payroll in terms of median and to use the term average to describe it. If it was a stats class the use if average just shouldn't fly at all because I have readily defined terms I could use.

[WrigleyField 22]

I mean average is just part of the definition of mean. So even I was a weirdo who wanted to use the definitions of words in place of words themselves I'd say "the cubs don't have a payroll that is above the quotient if the sum of several quantities and the number of quantities), because it would be more clear.

[Guest]

Also in the discussion of baseball wins and using payroll as an input that correlates to wins I care much more about my position relative to the median than the mean. So in normal discussion it's perfectly reasonable to bring up payroll in terms of median and to use the term average to describe it. If it was a stats class the use if average just shouldn't fly at all because I have readily defined terms I could use.

I'm most interested in using an inherent revenue advantage to position the team I care about to be in the best possible place to win, which is what the [expletive] the Dodgers are doing. The Cubs are doing something else, but I understand why that's the case. They are going to have to be much smarter than the Dodgers, Yankees, etc. of the baseball world given what seems to be their limitations.

 

Edit: I don't care what the mean, median or mode is for teams spending money.

Edited September 13, 2013 by CubinNY

[seanimal]

Also in the discussion of baseball wins and using payroll as an input that correlates to wins I care much more about my position relative to the median than the mean. So in normal discussion it's perfectly reasonable to bring up payroll in terms of median and to use the term average to describe it.

 

exactly

[WrigleyField 22]

It's the same thing as household income. Median tells us a much better answer to the question I'm trying to answer. 9 times out of 10 I could ask a statistician what the average household income is he is gonna answer me in median without any prior clarifications because every reasonable person knows what the hell we are answering and why one answer sucks st answering the question and the other is better. And if I told you I have an above average income I'm not lying or misunderstanding my stats terms, just doing a better job of answering the basic question that was set forth to be answered.

[WrigleyField 22]

Also in the discussion of baseball wins and using payroll as an input that correlates to wins I care much more about my position relative to the median than the mean. So in normal discussion it's perfectly reasonable to bring up payroll in terms of median and to use the term average to describe it. If it was a stats class the use if average just shouldn't fly at all because I have readily defined terms I could use.

I'm most interested in using an inherent revenue advantage to position the team I care about to be in the best possible place to win, which is what the [expletive] the Dodgers are doing. The Cubs are doing something else, but I understand why that's the case. They are going to have to be much smarter than the Dodgers, Yankees, etc. of the baseball world given what seems to be their limitations.

 

Edit: I don't care what the mean, median or mode is for teams spending money.

The original statement was about Theo sticking around because of an above average payroll, so if he left for elsewhere he has a better chance of ending up worse off payroll wise. Even if you think the Cubs could do more, more teams aren't doing more than are- regardless of market size.

 

Anyways if you really wanna get down to it, the most important thing is being the top payroll in your division. From a spending standpoint the Cardinals right now are much better off than Boston from a payroll perspective even though they have less to spend. Their spending just means a lot more when a huge segment of their competition to an automatic LDS bid spends less than average (as a mean) than the rest if the league. Then it's all a crap shoot anyways.

[jersey cubs fan]

The original statement was about Theo sticking around because of an above average payroll, so if he left for elsewhere he has a better chance of ending up worse off payroll wise.

 

That's kind of a ridiculous assumption. His next employer doesn't get to draft him.

[Guest]

I especially don't want the Cubs to use the rest of the teams in the central division as a measuring stick when it comes to spending money.

[WrigleyField 22]

I especially don't want the Cubs to use the rest of the teams in the central division as a measuring stick when it comes to spending money.

No I want them to spend whatever they can afford, but from an attractiveness standpoint and competitive standpoint, that's the measuring stick.

[WrigleyField 22]

The original statement was about Theo sticking around because of an above average payroll, so if he left for elsewhere he has a better chance of ending up worse off payroll wise.

 

That's kind of a ridiculous assumption. His next employer doesn't get to draft him.

It's not an assumption of what would actually happen if he left, but you can immediately cross off half the teams as being worse of from payroll standpoint.

[SouthSideRyan]

The original statement was about Theo sticking around because of an above average payroll, so if he left for elsewhere he has a better chance of ending up worse off payroll wise.

 

That's kind of a ridiculous assumption. His next employer doesn't get to draft him.

It's not an assumption of what would actually happen if he left, but you can immediately cross off half the teams as being worse of from payroll standpoint.

 

You probably never would've seen the [expletive] Reds coming in with a higher payroll than us coming either. It's not far-fetched to see the Braves, D-Backs, Mets, Mariners, and Orioles drop us down to 19th next season.

[WrigleyField 22]

The original statement was about Theo sticking around because of an above average payroll, so if he left for elsewhere he has a better chance of ending up worse off payroll wise.

 

That's kind of a ridiculous assumption. His next employer doesn't get to draft him.

It's not an assumption of what would actually happen if he left, but you can immediately cross off half the teams as being worse of from payroll standpoint.

 

You probably never would've seen the [expletive] Reds coming in with a higher payroll than us coming either. It's not far-fetched to see the Braves, D-Backs, Mets, Mariners, and Orioles drop us down to 19th next season.

Well not sure if any of those teams will look to expand payroll a lot due to revenue gains, but I really hope we've bottomed out and in the relative long term have more potential growth than most franchises. We'll find out opening day I guess.