Re: 2012-13 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Wilson A2000]

Not replacing Nate. Nate at SG, Rose at PG, Jimmy at SF late in games.

[SpongeWorthy]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

It's far from a given that giving Robinson's current minutes and role immediately to an ice cold Derrick Rose is going to pay dividends right off the bat.

[Wilson A2000]

And getting more than what Nate is giving you is going to be nearly impossible

[SouthSideRyan]

And getting more than what Nate is giving you is going to be nearly impossible

 

He is quite likely the greatest of all time.

[Banedon]

And getting more than what Nate is giving you is going to be nearly impossible

 

ROFL. Are you real?

 

Nate's played great for us. But settle down.

[Smack]

Why would anyone click on a Jason Whitlock link when that's what keeps him employed?

[mul21]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

I was only referring to the final possession(s) of the game when things tend to be more of an iso situation. I think it's easier to score with LeBron playing a big guy than it is with him defending a playmaker on the perimeter, especially right now with Rose more than likely being rusty. I don't think you'll see LeBron on Nate, it would create weird matchups elsewhere and probably give the Bulls a bit of an advantage. Plus, I think Nate is too quick for LeBron, even with the huge size disadvantage.

 

As Sulley said, against any other team, and any other game situation, you're much better off with Rose, rust or not.

[seanimal]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

It's far from a given that giving Robinson's current minutes and role immediately to an ice cold Derrick Rose is going to pay dividends right off the bat.

 

you're right, it might take a minute or two

 

do i really need to point out the logical fallacy of expecting nate robinson to continue to produce at this clip? this is [expletive] madness

[seanimal]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

I was only referring to the final possession(s) of the game when things tend to be more of an iso situation. I think it's easier to score with LeBron playing a big guy than it is with him defending a playmaker on the perimeter, especially right now with Rose more than likely being rusty. I don't think you'll see LeBron on Nate, it would create weird matchups elsewhere and probably give the Bulls a bit of an advantage. Plus, I think Nate is too quick for LeBron, even with the huge size disadvantage.

 

As Sulley said, against any other team, and any other game situation, you're much better off with Rose, rust or not.

 

i disagree. anytime you pull the heat's best defender out on to the perimeter, you make it easier to score, not harder

[mul21]

 

i disagree. anytime you pull the heat's best defender out on to the perimeter, you make it easier to score, not harder

 

Generally, yes, unless he's the guy guarding the ball, which I'm assuming he would be in this scenario. And he didn't do much helping when Nate crossed over Ray Allen the other night for a layup. Both he and Bosh just kind of flailed pointlessly.

[Wilson A2000]

Nate is not too quick for LeBron. Rose wasn't, Nate's not.

[Wilson A2000]

And getting more than what Nate is giving you is going to be nearly impossible

 

ROFL. Are you real?

 

Nate's played great for us. But settle down.

 

Rose isn't giving you 20 points a game for the playoffs. I think that's where Nate is at.

[Guest]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

I was only referring to the final possession(s) of the game when things tend to be more of an iso situation. I think it's easier to score with LeBron playing a big guy than it is with him defending a playmaker on the perimeter, especially right now with Rose more than likely being rusty. I don't think you'll see LeBron on Nate, it would create weird matchups elsewhere and probably give the Bulls a bit of an advantage. Plus, I think Nate is too quick for LeBron, even with the huge size disadvantage.

 

As Sulley said, against any other team, and any other game situation, you're much better off with Rose, rust or not.

 

i disagree. anytime you pull the heat's best defender out on to the perimeter, you make it easier to score, not harder

 

not if the Heat's best defender is valuable as a perimeter defender, but rather ordinary against bigger post players.

 

i'd rather have lebron guarding noah in the post than the focus of our offense on the perimeter.

[Guest]

I still don't know why the argument is tending to be Nate or Rose. Especially with Deng out the best end of game lineup for the Bulls to score would likely be Rose, Nate, Butler/Bellineli, Boozer, Noah.

[SpongeWorthy]

just in case i'm not understanding this correctly, we're talking about whether or not it would hurt the bulls to play derrick rose instead of nate robinson, correct? and theoretically, this scenario is happening in this dimension, on earth, in the year 2013, according to the accepted rules of play of the national basketball association? and we're not sure which player we would rather spend our minutes on? am i understanding this right?

 

It's far from a given that giving Robinson's current minutes and role immediately to an ice cold Derrick Rose is going to pay dividends right off the bat.

 

you're right, it might take a minute or two

 

do i really need to point out the logical fallacy of expecting nate robinson to continue to produce at this clip? this is [expletive] madness

 

The likeliest outcome is that Nate will do what he's always done: stretches of being spectacular interrupted by things that make you wanna tear your hair out.

 

What are the possible outcomes for Rose? I think it's equally likely that he comes back and is a reasonable facsimile of his former self as it is that he comes back rusty, tentative, and generally ineffective. Another possible outcome is that he tries to do too much and wastes possessions because his timing is shot and he wants to play through it--which would be fine against Brooklyn but not Miami.

 

I don't see the slam dunk case that throwing Rose into the fire, in THIS series, is going to outproduce what Nate is currently giving us.

[Wilson A2000]

I still don't know why the argument is tending to be Nate or Rose. Especially with Deng out the best end of game lineup for the Bulls to score would likely be Rose, Nate, Butler/Bellineli, Boozer, Noah.

 

Agree with that lineup, especially the last 5 minutes if Bulls are down by a few

[Guest]

If Rose comes back, he becomes the focal point of the offense and thus changes the team chemistry. Then, with him dominating the ball, it's much easier to control the bulls with a bigger player who's just as athletic.

[Wilson A2000]

He'll be playing limited minutes, he can't be the focal point when he's the 6-7th man. Maybe in the closing minutes.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Can we stop pretending that Rose is coming back?

[SpongeWorthy]

geez, Miami is favored by 13?

 

[UMFan83]

Thibs just announced Hinrich is out tonight

 

Deng reportedly experienced more bad headaches last night and is still in Chicago. He might go consult another doctor to figure out wtf is going on.

[Guest]

Thibs just announced Hinrich is out tonight

 

Deng reportedly experienced more bad headaches last night and is still in Chicago. He might go consult another doctor to figure out wtf is going on.

 

Man, this Deng stuff is scary.

[seanimal]

Thibs just announced Hinrich is out tonight

 

Deng reportedly experienced more bad headaches last night and is still in Chicago. He might go consult another doctor to figure out wtf is going on.

 

Man, this Deng stuff is scary.

 

hotel pizza >:0

[Wilson A2000]

Wade is really a crybaby. Easy to hate.

[Wilson A2000]

Yes Noah can actually jump and throw down a dunk. LOL at Wade.