2013 Mock Offseason Thread

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

[dew1679666265]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

 

I have no problem with it if the rest of his post is accurate about pursuing Upton and legitimately good pitchers. There's really only one clear upgrade that would even be possible (3B) anyway and the options there are limited.

[Sammy Sofa]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

 

Stop being such a choad.

[sneakypower]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

they're all a good bet to be average-or-better players (much better in the case of Castro and Rizzo), so i don't see the big deal

 

though i am, admittedly, probably higher on Valbuena than most

[imb]

is it really choad and not [expletive]?

[Cubswin11]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

they're all a good bet to be average-or-better players (much better in the case of Castro and Rizzo), so i don't see the big deal

 

though i am, admittedly, probably higher on Valbuena than most

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B. Which isn't bad considering we should be getting above league average/replacement level production (likely considerably above at SS/1B) from the rest of the IF.

[davell]

I think Valbuena's on the team in some capacity next season, which is more than I would have said a month or two ago.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B. Which isn't bad considering we should be getting above league average/replacement level production (likely considerably above at SS/1B) from the rest of the IF.

 

I won't say it's impossible that the trio above could provide league-average production. But sub-replacement seems way more likely to me.

[Sammy Sofa]

BOY GENIUS BETTER GET OFF HIS ASS AND FIX 3B.

[SouthSideRyan]

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B. Which isn't bad considering we should be getting above league average/replacement level production (likely considerably above at SS/1B) from the rest of the IF.

 

I won't say it's impossible that the trio above could provide league-average production. But sub-replacement seems way more likely to me.

 

Maybe we can re-acquire Ryan Flaherty and Jeff Baker

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B. Which isn't bad considering we should be getting above league average/replacement level production (likely considerably above at SS/1B) from the rest of the IF.

 

I won't say it's impossible that the trio above could provide league-average production. But sub-replacement seems way more likely to me.

 

Maybe we can re-acquire Ryan Flaherty and Jeff Baker

 

I would prefer that to 2/3rds of the players listed above.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Trade Garza for peanuts. Trade Soriano for minor salary relief. Trade DeJesus and Samardzija for decent prospects.

 

You really don't know this front office, at all.

 

So, inspired by this, I did a detailed study of the front office's history so that we might understand what they are going to do.

 

From that research, I predict:

 

1) We'll do pretty much whatever they feel like doing.

2) They'll come up with a *really* intelligent-sounding justification for what they feel like doing.

3) They'll soak up all the credit for things that go well while avoiding most of the blame for things that go poorly.

4) It'll probably involve a crap-ton of waiver-wire turnover.

[Sammy Sofa]

Every Kyle posts sounds like Horshack when he was raising his hand.

[sneakypower]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

they're all a good bet to be average-or-better players (much better in the case of Castro and Rizzo), so i don't see the big deal

 

though i am, admittedly, probably higher on Valbuena than most

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B.

this is probably true if Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart are used in something like a 90/0/10 split

[treebird]

i think the infield is pretty much set in stone to remain what it is now

 

That's more depressing than any hyperbole I could make up about this offseason. I really hope that's not true.

they're all a good bet to be average-or-better players (much better in the case of Castro and Rizzo), so i don't see the big deal

 

though i am, admittedly, probably higher on Valbuena than most

If they were used for the right matchups/splits I think Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart could achieve league average production at 3B.

this is probably true if Valbuena/Vitters/Stewart are used in something like a 90/0/10 split

 

most teams don't have the personnel for a platoon in which one of the players only faces pitchers who throw underhand. but then most teams don't have josh vitters.

[imb]

which league are we talking about? little league?

[Beer Kaese]

I don't think this will be a real busy offseason.

 

I think the Cubs will sign one starter who draws no interest from a contender. They just flipped a guy like that for a rated (BA top 100) prospect.

 

I doubt Soriano is traded before July. I doubt DeJesus is traded before July. Marginal players have more value in July then they do in January. (see above)

 

I believe they will attempt to get a pitching prospect for the junk position prospects they have but will fail.

 

Soriano, Jackson, DeJesus, Castro, Rizzo and Castillo will start on opening day.

[Guest]

i bet they'll sign a lot of pitching. guys like sneakypower mentioned. they'll look for cheap 1-3 year deals for undervalued guys or guys with high upside. then if/when any of those guys are having a good year, they'll be traded. just like mahaolm. they are still trying to create assets and add young talent by only giving up money.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Trade Garza for peanuts. Trade Soriano for minor salary relief. Trade DeJesus and Samardzija for decent prospects.

 

You really don't know this front office, at all.

 

So, inspired by this, I did a detailed study of the front office's history so that we might understand what they are going to do.

 

From that research, I predict:

 

1) We'll do pretty much whatever they feel like doing.

2) They'll come up with a *really* intelligent-sounding justification for what they feel like doing.

3) They'll soak up all the credit for things that go well while avoiding most of the blame for things that go poorly.

4) It'll probably involve a crap-ton of waiver-wire turnover.

 

While I do maintain faith in the front office and their current way of doing things, I'll keep it until around this time next year to start looking like at least a .500 team. Remember as good as out lower levels seem, St. Louis has a hell of a deep farm system, and that's just notable prospects, not to mention their little habit of pulling players out of nowhere.

 

For all we know, he's taking the money that he never would have gotten from Boston, and will do his best to turn the Cubs into something resembling the Rays. This being said, the best case scenerio is that he succeeds, Cubs win a World Series or 2, and he becomes known as they guy who broke baseball's two most notorious curses. Worst case scenerio, he fails. When his contract comes to an end, the Cubs are a low budget mess, but he either keeps his job anyway because he did so in a cost effective manner, or he's canned, but gets another job based on the fumes of his reputation.

 

But for now, I stick with my theory that the plan is to spend the next 2 years building the best young team possible internally and via reclamations, and when 2014-2015 rolls around, they have plenty of money to burn and bust out the checkbook to fill the holes that they were unable to. Sort of the opposite of what he did in Boston.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why did you even quote Kyle's post?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Why did you even quote Kyle's post?

 

Because it is Important.

[Beer Kaese]

Why did you even quote Kyle's post?

 

Because it is Important.

 

lol!

 

Your posts in this thread are so stupid that my head hurts.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That's a Truth Hangover.

[Beer Kaese]

i bet they'll sign a lot of pitching. guys like sneakypower mentioned. they'll look for cheap 1-3 year deals for undervalued guys or guys with high upside. then if/when any of those guys are having a good year, they'll be traded. just like mahaolm. they are still trying to create assets and add young talent by only giving up money.

 

I hope you're right. There are two holes in the rotation, such as it is, so adding two starters works for me.

[Beer Kaese]

That's a Truth Hangover.

 

In my opinion, you are clueless.