Jeff Baker to the Tigers

[Rizzo Smash]

RT @CSNMooney: #Cubs trade Jeff Baker to #Tigers for two players to be named later.

Edited August 5, 2012 by Rizzo Smash

[El Duderino]

Sounds fair.

[davell]

Damn, I was hoping we'd know who we were getting back.

[dew1679666265]

Wouldn't surprise me if the players were dependent upon how well Baker plays the rest of the year. I'd say we need to root for him to play really well.

[davell]

Yeah, I agree. They will be named by 10/31, by the way.

[d_money]

How do they determine the PTBNL's? I assume there is an agreed upon # of metrics/parameters and if baker performs X, the cubs can get Y. No?

[Guest]

How do they determine the PTBNL's? I assume there is an agreed upon # of metrics/parameters and if baker performs X, the cubs can get Y. No?

 

I'm not sure what parameters are normal, but I think you're about right. If Baker gets hurt tomorrow and doesn't play again this year, then the Cubs will get player X or get to choose from a lower list for a PTBNL. If Baker gets a lot of PT/hits really well, then the Cubs get the better player Y or get to choose from a better list.

[Post Count Padder]

Decent backup for a few years. I wish him well, especially if it nets us better players.

[Bruno7481]

I'm not sure how much of it is actually performance related. More than likely the Cubs have been given a list. They will now have the rest of the minor league season to look at those guys and decide on who they might want the most.

 

There may be some protections in their in case of a Baker injury, but I don't his performance one way or the other will significantly impact who the Tigers will send back.

[Little Slide Rooter]

My only regret is that Baker won't receive the public display of man-love that Johnson and Soto did.

[PrimeTime]

If Hendry was here, this would have never gone down. He would've been an untouchable piece with what he brings to the team and on the field. Reed Johnson would still be here also since they're both hard working white players with tons of grit and meat heads love em.

[Theo]

If Hendry was here, this would have never gone down. He would've been an untouchable piece with what he brings to the team and on the field. Reed Johnson would still be here also since they're both hard working white players with tons of grit and meat heads love em.

They both would have had NTC's.

[illiniguy]

I think ESPN.com tried to link to this site, but has the wrong URL. Edited August 5, 2012 by illiniguy

[Little Slide Rooter]

As for the other move, while I'm no Tony Campana enthusiast, wouldn't the more logical move been to do away with Joe Mather? Surely we'll be seeing Campana again by September at the latest, but if he has a future with the team it's pretty much as a 5th OF/pinch runner, which is what Jackson's call up makes him.

[Theo]

As for the other move, while I'm no Tony Campana enthusiast, wouldn't the more logical move been to do away with Joe Mather? Surely we'll be seeing Campana again by September at the latest, but if he has a future with the team it's pretty much as a 5th OF/pinch runner, which is what Jackson's call up makes him.

who cares?

[Guest]

Campana has 8 plate appearances in the last month. I don't think sending him down for 3 weeks until rosters expand is going to make a difference, and it allows you to not have to cut someone.

[Little Slide Rooter]

At this point, my point of view is that unless were talking full time players like Soriano and DeJesus, nobody who has no chance to be a part of the future should be on the big league roster as long as there's an option who has any chance to be. That's the whole reasoning behind my seeming obsession with fringe prospects like Cardenas, Raley, and Watkins. At least Campana and Volstad have an off chance I being useful over the next few years. Mather and Germano do not. It's Logan's Run and these guys should be on their way to the carousel.

[Theo]

If Volstad is still on this roster a few years from now, then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

[XZero771679666304]

If Volstad is still on this roster a few years from now, then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

 

 

Not necessarily. His stuff is good enough that if he can learn to control it effectively, he could be a decent bor starter even on a solid staff.

 

Not saying it will happen or is even probable, but he's still young and the potential is there.

[Theo]

If Volstad is still on this roster a few years from now, then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

 

 

Not necessarily. His stuff is good enough that if he can learn to control it effectively, he could be a decent bor starter even on a solid staff.

 

Not saying it will happen or is even probable, but he's still young and the potential is there.

 

His stuff really isn't that dominant at all. He serves a purpose now as we hope he can eat innings, but he's nothing more than a 5th starter on a bad team.

[Gilby]

If Volstad is still on this roster a few years from now, then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

 

 

Not necessarily. His stuff is good enough that if he can learn to control it effectively, he could be a decent bor starter even on a solid staff.

 

Not saying it will happen or is even probable, but he's still young and the potential is there.

 

His stuff really isn't that dominant at all. He serves a purpose now as we hope he can eat innings, but he's nothing more than a 5th starter on a bad team.

 

No one will say his stuff is dominant. It is good enough to get ground balls and be a BOR pitcher though.

[Theo]

Yes, a BOR pitcher on a bad team. In Theo's master plan, I sure hope his vision of a 4th or 5th starter is a helluva lot better than Chris Volstad.

[neely crenshaw]

As for the other move, while I'm no Tony Campana enthusiast, wouldn't the more logical move been to do away with Joe Mather? Surely we'll be seeing Campana again by September at the latest, but if he has a future with the team it's pretty much as a 5th OF/pinch runner, which is what Jackson's call up makes him.

who cares?

 

I was thinking that also but I kind of think they know what they have in campana and getting him 3 full weeks of at bats will be good for him. I would expect he will be the 5th OF next year just based on defensive replacement and his baserunning, that may depend on how lefties they have as starters also.

The other point is although I think Mather is probably gone at seasons end, with Baker gone, he gives you a guy who can play(lose interpretation) infield and outfield. Just adds a bit more depth, as campana can play OF and probably only against righties.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If Volstad is still on this roster a few years from now, then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

 

No, if Volstad is on the roster a few years from now it will mean that he figured things out, which would be the opposite of horribly wrong. If not, he'll be non tendered by then. In fact, if he doesn't look a lot like he did yesterday the rest of this season, he may very well be non tendered this winter, which is why he should be startinng the rest of this season regardless of the results.

[Beer Kaese]

As for the other move, while I'm no Tony Campana enthusiast, wouldn't the more logical move been to do away with Joe Mather? Surely we'll be seeing Campana again by September at the latest, but if he has a future with the team it's pretty much as a 5th OF/pinch runner, which is what Jackson's call up makes him.

 

It makes sense to me, bring up a Jackson to play center and send Campana down to play center until September or the end of Iowa's season.