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I feel bad for all you who had to go through '84 and '03. '03 was bad enough.

 

 

Just curious since I was born in '84 so I don't know how bad that was. Was it as bad as '03? I was in college and I remember after the whole Bartman/A Gonz fiasco, my dorm basically turned into a riot. Kids were throwing stuff out the window or into the hallway and I'm pretty sure I've never heard so much cussing as I did that night.

 

For those who lived through both, which was worse? '84 or 2003?

2003 was worse, but it's like asking which is worse, testicular torsion or passing a kidney stone.

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I feel bad for all you who had to go through '84 and '03. '03 was bad enough.

 

 

Just curious since I was born in '84 so I don't know how bad that was. Was it as bad as '03? I was in college and I remember after the whole Bartman/A Gonz fiasco, my dorm basically turned into a riot. Kids were throwing stuff out the window or into the hallway and I'm pretty sure I've never heard so much cussing as I did that night.

 

For those who lived through both, which was worse? '84 or 2003?

I was 9, in 84, so I got over that pretty easy. 2003 was awful. That gets my vote, but you probably need to gauge a rabid Cubs fan in his 50's to get a better feel on the differences between the two.

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I was a senior in HS in '84.

 

It was soul crushing.

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This morning someone on the the Score referred to Rizzo as the "anti-Starlin Castro," as if Castro is indicative of everything that's been wrong with the team.

 

Eat [expletive], the Score.

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Yeah, I was too young for '84 to really eat me up. 2003 was brutal. I had prematurely made myself a victory meal and was just starting to eat it as...that inning started.

 

That meal was never finished, and I didn't watch, listen to or read anything sports related for a while after game seven. The next thing sports related I did was registering here, once the feeling of being physically ill had passed.

 

I'm not the demonstrative type (I don't yell and scream like some people I know), but I was a mess in 2003. I was like catatonic Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It drove my wife crazy. In the late stages of the 2008 elimination game I was hunched over on the couch with my head in my shirt and my wife came in and was like "Oh Christ, it's not going to be like 2003, is it?" But of course it wasn't.

 

I do remember how wrecked my father was in 1984, though. He never really could talk about it, even years later.

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This morning someone on the the Score referred to Rizzo as the "anti-Starlin Castro," as if Castro is indicative of everything that's been wrong with the team.

 

Eat [expletive], the Score.

 

 

Honestly, I don't know why people listen to sports talk radio. It's invariably a meatball-y cesspool filled with idiots and dogmatic blowhards.

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In 1984 I was 12. I remember wanting a title that year just to rub it in the faces of all my friends wearing Ozzie Smith and Willie McGhee jerseys. That was the first big sports heartbreak I can remember.

 

The 2003 team was different. I joined this site that season, with "2004" in my handle because I thought the Cubs were still a year away. After Atlanta, I was sold that it could happen then.

I was having drinks with a girl I was crazy about in Parasols, a tiny hole in the wall bar in the Irish Channel of New Orleans. There were 3 transplant Chicago guys in there and by the the middle innings the whole place was with us cheering the Cubs. LOTS of Jameson consumed that night. After that awful inning the whole place turned bitter and ugly. I don't think any of us Cubs fans hardly said a word to each other afterwards. I barely remember my date even being there after that. Thankfully she's an old school Red Sox fan so she got it somewhat.

I didn't even watch the World Series or any show that might have highlights. Not trying to go too far with it, but I definitely had trouble getting overly optimistic about anything with the Cubs again until Theo, and now again with Rizzo.

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I think I reasoned it out that we had a big window and we'd get one over the next few years. I joined a different Cubs board(Cubstalk, later ITI, morphed into SOI) that offseason. It seems like quite a few of us started in on the message board deal that offseason.
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I was a senior in HS in '84.

 

It was soul crushing.

 

It was indeed. And I was too young to understand what it really meant. That didn't come until '85.

 

'03 was horrible, but in a way just a 2nd time around the horn,

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I feel bad for all you who had to go through '84 and '03. '03 was bad enough.

 

 

Just curious since I was born in '84 so I don't know how bad that was. Was it as bad as '03? I was in college and I remember after the whole Bartman/A Gonz fiasco, my dorm basically turned into a riot. Kids were throwing stuff out the window or into the hallway and I'm pretty sure I've never heard so much cussing as I did that night.

 

For those who lived through both, which was worse? '84 or 2003?

2003 was worse, but it's like asking which is worse, testicular torsion or passing a kidney stone.

 

 

Since my older brother had both already... it's kidney stone hands down from what he told me.

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In a thread created to discuss something incredibly awesome, things have turned surprisingly depressing.
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In a thread created to discuss something incredibly awesome, things have turned surprisingly depressing.

We're Cubs fans.

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In a thread created to discuss something incredibly awesome, things have turned surprisingly depressing.

I was getting caught up on the last few pages and preparing to say the same thing. People need to find somewhere else to have this doom orgy. To get back on track:

 

Butch Deadlift

Splint Chesthair

Flint Ironstag

Bulk Van Der Huge

Drunk Slamchest

Stump Beefknob

Punch Rockgroin

Pedro

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In a thread created to discuss something incredibly awesome, things have turned surprisingly depressing.

I was getting caught up on the last few pages and preparing to say the same thing. People need to find somewhere else to have this doom orgy. To get back on track:

 

Butch Deadlift

Splint Chesthair

Flint Ironstag

Bulk Van Der Huge

Drunk Slamchest

Stump Beefknob

Punch Rockgroin

Pedro

Rock Shoulders.

 

I really, really want that guy to be good.

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I wouldn't mind having just a general Rizzo debut thread, and do away with the nickname nonsense.......for the moment.

 

But I'm not a mod :)

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In a thread created to discuss something incredibly awesome, things have turned surprisingly depressing.

I was getting caught up on the last few pages and preparing to say the same thing. People need to find somewhere else to have this doom orgy. To get back on track:

 

Butch Deadlift

Splint Chesthair

Flint Ironstag

Bulk Van Der Huge

Drunk Slamchest

Stump Beefknob

Punch Rockgroin

Pedro

 

Bob Johnson!

 

...oh, wait.

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This morning someone on the the Score referred to Rizzo as the "anti-Starlin Castro," as if Castro is indicative of everything that's been wrong with the team.

 

Eat [expletive], the Score.

 

I think Castro is fighting the same thing Cutler fights...the optics. You hear people talk about their mannerisms and how they appear disinterested. Somehow, for many, that overshadows the pure talent.

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Yeah, I was too young for '84 to really eat me up. 2003 was brutal. I had prematurely made myself a victory meal and was just starting to eat it as...that inning started.

 

That meal was never finished, and I didn't watch, listen to or read anything sports related for a while after game seven. The next thing sports related I did was registering here, once the feeling of being physically ill had passed.

 

I'm not the demonstrative type (I don't yell and scream like some people I know), but I was a mess in 2003. I was like catatonic Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It drove my wife crazy. In the late stages of the 2008 elimination game I was hunched over on the couch with my head in my shirt and my wife came in and was like "Oh Christ, it's not going to be like 2003, is it?" But of course it wasn't.

 

I do remember how wrecked my father was in 1984, though. He never really could talk about it, even years later.

Wow. This could have been me. After 2008, I destroyed all the memorabilia except for the jerseys which I put away and haven't touched since.......

 

Except I ordered a Rizzo jersey last week. There is hope.

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The big difference for me was that the Cubs were supposed to win in 1984. They blew the Pads out in the first two games and things were going great and then boom, Steve Garvey didn't make another out (or it seemed like he didn't). The home team won every game and the Cubs were supposed to have home field advantage but lost it because the networks wanted night games.

 

2003 things just seemed to be going the Cubs' way until game six. It wasn't like they had the best team, things just were going well.

 

Being younger, 84 made me think that the Cubs will find a way to win one soon. As time passed and then 2003 happened, I'm not sure I'm going to see any more WS titles than my 95 year old grandfather has.

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the Cubs were supposed to have home field advantage but lost it because the networks wanted night games.

 

Come on now, this is lazy. Everybody knows that isn't true.

 

Not lazy, just how I remembered it after nearly 30 years. Looking it up I remembered wrong.

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