YAY! Expanded replay!

[David]

http://www.businessinsider.com/mlb-expand-replay-2012-5?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=msnbc&utm_term=sports

 

Here are the details of what MLB is planning according to Stark (via ESPN Radio):

 

A group of umpires will watch games from a central location

 

On plays that are "clearly wrong" the group would then signal the umpires at the game and let them know there is an obvious call that needs to be changed

 

MLB hopes to implement an introductory version of the system in 2013

 

The initial system would only review home runs, whether a ball is fair or foul, and whether or not a player caught a ball

 

The system would then be expanded "after a year or so" once the system is optimized

 

At that point, the system would be expanded "to all sorts of calls." However, Stark says exactly what would be included would have to be negotiated

 

[MWV]

Love it. Only wish it could be implemented sooner.

[jersey cubs fan]

umpires will go to extremes to not overrule one of their own.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

[Bote McBoteface]

Unless of course it is their job to overrule one of their own.

[jersey cubs fan]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

That number will be zero

[jersey cubs fan]

Unless of course it is their job to overrule one of their own.

 

It is already their job to correctly call the game but they can't do it. It should not be umpires from the umpire union who work regular umpire gigs.

[Guest]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

Oh yea, this is one of those everythings that you decide to be contrarian on something overwhelmingly popular.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

Oh yea, this is one of those everythings that you decide to be contrarian on something overwhelmingly popular.

 

Unlike most issues, I've never changed on this one. It's not a "right or wrong" answer, it's just a personal preference of which one bothers you more. The occasional wrong call bothers me less than the moment-ruining aspects of instant replay.

 

Some of my formative sports years were as a hockey fan in the late 1990s, where instant replay just about ruined the entertainment value of the games. It was hard to get excited about any goal, because it felt like half of them were coming back on video review. I hated it then, and I still hate it today. I hate it in hockey, I hate it in football, and I won't like it in baseball.

 

Great moments are my favorite aspect of sports. They should come from the athletes and what they accomplish, not from a referee with a microphone telling you that it's okay to cheer now.

[jersey cubs fan]

Unlike most issues, I've never changed on this one. It's not a "right or wrong" answer, it's just a personal preference of which one bothers you more. The occasional wrong call bothers me less than the moment-ruining aspects of instant replay.

 

That's such an asinine straw man.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Unlike most issues, I've never changed on this one. It's not a "right or wrong" answer, it's just a personal preference of which one bothers you more. The occasional wrong call bothers me less than the moment-ruining aspects of instant replay.

 

That's such an asinine straw man.

 

*goes to replay booth*

 

It's not asinine, and it's not a strawman. The call on the field is overturned.

[jersey cubs fan]

Unlike most issues, I've never changed on this one. It's not a "right or wrong" answer, it's just a personal preference of which one bothers you more. The occasional wrong call bothers me less than the moment-ruining aspects of instant replay.

 

That's such an asinine straw man.

 

*goes to replay booth*

 

It's not asinine, and it's not a strawman. The call on the field is overturned.

 

 

You're wrong kyle. The NHL had a problem with a rule about a fraction of a player's skate being in the crease overturning a call, they didn't have a replay problem, they had a dumb rule problem. It's freaking stupid to pretend moments are being ruined when if fact they are not. Moments are happening all the time. You can play the faux traditionalist all you want but it's an idiotic stance with no basis in reality. There is a right or wrong answer, and wanting the play to be called right is that right answer. Pretending sports are ruined by replay is wrong.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's not traditionalism at all. If you can find a way to make the call instant, I'm happy. I'm all for electronic balls and strikes.

[XZero771679666304]

It's not traditionalism at all. If you can find a way to make the call instant, I'm happy. I'm all for electronic balls and strikes.

 

As Len and Bob have pointed out, games are delayed by arguments over calls all the time. With an extended replay system, you circumvent the argument and go straight to replay. In the final equation, it probably won't make any difference with regard to "ruining moments".

 

There's no need for it to be instant. Moving past a bad/disputed call is never instantaneous.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think Kyle has tried to make the argument before that football has been ruined for him be replay/review.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's not traditionalism at all. If you can find a way to make the call instant, I'm happy. I'm all for electronic balls and strikes.

 

As Len and Bob have pointed out, games are delayed by arguments over calls all the time. With an extended replay system, you circumvent the argument and go straight to replay. In the final equation, it probably won't make any difference with regard to "ruining moments".

 

There's no need for it to be instant. Moving past a bad/disputed call is never instantaneous.

 

When has the delay ever resulted in an overturned call, though? I vaguely remember one time, maybe, from when I was a kid.

 

The opposing manager can argue till he's passed out, but once the umpire calls safe on the game-winning run in the Cubs' pennant clinching NLCS win, I can be fairly confident that it's decided.

 

I think Kyle has tried to make the argument before that football has been ruined for him be replay/review.

 

Well, maybe not "ruined for me," but I'd enjoy it more without it.

[MSG T]

It's not traditionalism at all. If you can find a way to make the call instant, I'm happy. I'm all for electronic balls and strikes.

 

As Len and Bob have pointed out, games are delayed by arguments over calls all the time. With an extended replay system, you circumvent the argument and go straight to replay. In the final equation, it probably won't make any difference with regard to "ruining moments".

 

There's no need for it to be instant. Moving past a bad/disputed call is never instantaneous.

 

When has the delay ever resulted in an overturned call, though? I vaguely remember one time, maybe, from when I was a kid.

 

The opposing manager can argue till he's passed out, but once the umpire calls safe on the game-winning run in the Cubs' pennant clinching NLCS win, I can be fairly confident that it's decided.

 

I think Kyle has tried to make the argument before that football has been ruined for him be replay/review.

 

Well, maybe not "ruined for me," but I'd enjoy it more without it.

 

 

I enjoy the games more if they get the calls right.

[Rob]

Not a fan.

[Andy]

I think Kyle has tried to make the argument before that football has been ruined for him be replay/review.

I kind of agree with him that football replay's not the best, but that's at least partially because it seems like at least one out of three times they [expletive] up the call on replay anyway (especially in college).

[Soul]

This will be great. After an obligatory adjustment period during which every "purist" will mercilessly blast it, the end result will be a much-improved sport.

 

Just like NFL football is now much-improved over the days when there was no possibility of overturning a blatantly incompetent call.

[erik316wttn]

I don't see why this initially can't be for safe/out on the bases as well.

[CubColtPacer]

I like this. I'm still interested to see how baserunners are handled (the potential issues that arise from a replay overturn are a lot worse in baseball than they are in football IMO) but if they can somehow work out a consistent system for that then this should be helpful to the sport.

[Banedon]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

Instead of 5 minutes of a manager kicking dirt on the ump, throwing his hat, and chucking a base across the field?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

Instead of 5 minutes of a manager kicking dirt on the ump, throwing his hat, and chucking a base across the field?

 

Yes. You don't think there's a difference between:

 

"Something cool just happened, now let's waste five minutes on some stupid manager arguing tradition."

 

vs.

 

"Maybe something cool just happened, or maybe it didn't, but let's wait five minutes to find out."

 

Maybe the latter doesn't bother you as much as it bothers me, but you can't say there's no difference.

[Banedon]

I look forward to the number of awesome moments being ruined by five minutes of "We don't know what happened, we're waiting for the call..."

 

Instead of 5 minutes of a manager kicking dirt on the ump, throwing his hat, and chucking a base across the field?

 

Yes. You don't think there's a difference between:

 

"Something cool just happened, now let's waste five minutes on some stupid manager arguing tradition."

 

vs.

 

"Maybe something cool just happened, or maybe it didn't, but let's wait five minutes to find out."

 

Maybe the latter doesn't bother you as much as it bothers me, but you can't say there's no difference.

 

I can say that "wasting time" isn't a factor, as there's plenty of "time wasted" in baseball with arguments over bad calls as it is.