2013 Rule 5 talk

[jersey cubs fan]

Jonathan Mayo's 20 Rule 5 names to know: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=rule5

 

The Cubs guy is not on this list.

[Guest]

10 players who could hear their name called in the Rule 5 Draft:

 

Baseball America[/url]"]Jesus Aguilar, 1b, Indians: A 2012 Futures Gamer and the Indians' No. 9 prospect, the 257-pounder finished the year in Double-A and has big raw power. He's limited to first defensively and dropped from 23 home runs in 2011 to 15 in 2012.

 

Ryan Chaffee, rhp, Angels: The Angels left Chaffee unprotected last year, but he's more likely to be taken this year, as his stuff took a leap. His fastball now sits in the 94-96 mph range with good life and he throws a slider that shows flashes of being a plus pitch.

 

Josh Fields, rhp, Red Sox: Fields, 27, has battled control throughout his career, but in 2012 he improved his delivery, regained his velocity (up to 97 mph) and sharpened his power curveball. His Triple-A experience and newfound success (78-to-18 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 2012) make him a likely selection.

 

Randy Henry, rhp, Rangers: Henry dominated in 2012 when pitching out of the bullpen (0.98 ERA at high Class A Myrtle Beach). He faltered in a mid-season move to the rotation. With a 91-93 mph fastball with cutting action and an average slider and changeup, he could fit in a big league bullpen.

 

Jon Keck, lhp, Royals: Keck started pitching as a college junior. He has a big arm (91-96 mph fastball) but his secondary stuff is still raw and he struggles to throw strikes.

 

Marc Krauss, of/1B, Astros: Krauss has a solid lefthanded bat with the ability to hit for average and power. Overall in 2012, the 2009 second-round pick hit .271/.397/.491 with 31 doubles and 20 home runs. He's a poor but versatile defender at the corner spots.

 

Braulio Lara, lhp, Rays: From a pure scouting standpoint, Lara has the biggest upside on this list. He has a lean, athletic build and an easy delivery producing a mid-90s fastball with good life. He also has a hard, downer curveball in the upper 70s but went just 6-10, 5.71 in high Class A in 2012.

 

Chris McGuiness, 1b, Rangers: The 2012 Arizona Fall League MVP, McGuiness has shown consistent on-base skills to go with good power. With a full season in Double-A under his belt to go with his AFL, McGuiness is one of the more polished bats available.

 

Juan Sosa, rhp, Phillies: He's yet to pitch above Class A but Sosa has some of the best stuff among Rule 5 eligibles with a 92-96 mph fastball and a curve that flashes plus.

 

Coty Woods, rhp, Rockies: Woods throws from a low, sidearm slot that gives a little extra deception and life to his 89-92 mph fastball. He has a big-breaking, upper 70s slider and a decent changeup. Woods pitched well in the AFL (3.18 ERA in 11 IP).

 

No Cubs were mentioned on this list.

 

Nor this one.

[SABR Gamer]

D-Backs took Peralta.

[Guest]

Rondon has a good fastball and an injury history. Ben Badlet was hyping him up on Twitter last week. He's been fantastic in the VWL.

 

http://www.scoutingbook.com/players/p2571

 

@BenBadler: Rondon hasn't stayed healthy the last three years, but talked to scouts who saw him throwing hard in Venezuela. Not surprised he went high.

[Guest]

Not sure why the media is pretending the selection of Starling Peralta was a surprise. He's your classic Rule 5 pitcher.

[Guest]

BA's #7 Indians prospect in 2010:

 

Background: A Futures Gamer in 2008, Rondon had cruised through his first five Double-A starts when the Indians moved him to the Akron bullpen, with an eye toward helping a beleaguered bullpen in Cleveland. Rondon made just two relief appearances before the Indians nixed the experiment, sending him back into the rotation and promoting him to Triple-A in July.

 

Strengths: Rondon's best pitch is his fastball, a lively low-90s heater that touches 96. He commands it well to both sides of the plate and it has late life through the zone, making it a swing-and-miss pitch. His second-best pitch is his average changeup, which could be a future 55 offering on the 20-80 scale. Rondon repeats a clean delivery, and his athleticism helps him field his position well.

 

Weaknesses: Rondon made strides with his secondary pitches, but he'll have to prove that they're good enough to keep big league hitters off his impressive fastball. His mid-80s slider needs to catch up, as it's a fringe-average pitch that flashes average occasionally. He experienced mild right biceps soreness in June but didn't miss much time.

 

The Future: Rondon profiles as a potential mid-rotation starter. He will likely begin 2010 in the Columbus rotation, but should be in line for a callup at some point.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I remember seeing something about him one Badler or one of those guys was Tweeting Rule 5 guys: I believe they said that he was a very high ceiling guy, but the injury history is there. I suppose that the injury history will make it easier for him to "develope an injury" if we need him to during the season.

 

And I'm not happy about Peralta, but as Raisin said, he's a classic Rule 5/Hide at the End of the pen type.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The MLBTR Rule 5 tracker has the Astros and then Marlins picking in the 2nd round. Does that mean that we skipped? Too bad, there were some interesting options still on the board such as Chaffee.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The MLBTR Rule 5 tracker has the Astros and then Marlins picking in the 2nd round. Does that mean that we skipped? Too bad, there were some interesting options still on the board such as Chaffee.

 

We passed. Once we add QGFuG and Schierholtz to the roster, we were at 39 going into the draft.

[Sammys Boombox]

Royals had FOUR guys selected in the first round of the AAA portion and five overall. Three of the picks were consecutive...

[Guest]

I remember seeing something about him one Badler or one of those guys was Tweeting Rule 5 guys: I believe they said that he was a very high ceiling guy, but the injury history is there. I suppose that the injury history will make it easier for him to "develope an injury" if we need him to during the season.

 

And I'm not happy about Peralta, but as Raisin said, he's a classic Rule 5/Hide at the End of the pen type.

 

Thankfully it's the Diamondbacks who probably will be in contention and hopefully can't afford to waste a roster spot.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Bleacher Nation says that we also passed on the AAA Phase, but lost Michael Burgess to the Astros and Matt Cerda to the Cardinals PIXIE DUST FUTURE HALL OF FAMER DEMI GOD RYAN THERIOT :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

Also someone named Alvido Gimenez

[Guest]

It's Jimenez, not Gimenez.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I remember seeing something about him one Badler or one of those guys was Tweeting Rule 5 guys: I believe they said that he was a very high ceiling guy, but the injury history is there. I suppose that the injury history will make it easier for him to "develope an injury" if we need him to during the season.

 

And I'm not happy about Peralta, but as Raisin said, he's a classic Rule 5/Hide at the End of the pen type.

 

Thankfully it's the Diamondbacks who probably will be in contention and hopefully can't afford to waste a roster spot.

 

As hard of a thrower as he is, they could keep him in the pen regardless as long as he's not too wild.

[Little Slide Rooter]

How does the AAA phase work anyway? Does it cost a 40 man spot?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

How does the AAA phase work anyway? Does it cost a 40 man spot?

 

It costs $12k and there's a 38-player AAA protected list for each team beyond the 40-man. It costs nothing else and the player is freely yours once you take him.

 

The AA portion is the same except it costs $4k and there's another 37-man AA protected list.

[Guest]

How does the AAA phase work anyway? Does it cost a 40 man spot?

 

It costs $12k and there's a 38-player AAA protected list for each team beyond the 40-man. It costs nothing else and the player is freely yours once you take him.

 

The AA portion is the same except it costs $4k and there's another 37-man AA protected list.

 

He can also be assigned to any level of the minors during the regular season with the new team but he must spend 15 days of spring training with the AA or AAA squad.

[Guest]

@BenBadler: Liked what the Marlins, Astros and Cubs did today. Took some solid players with a reasonable chance to stick.

[Guest]

http://www.letsgotribe.com/2011/12/8/2620879/hector-rondon-human-caution-sign

[Hairyducked Idiot]

So with a 40-man full of dreck and the 2nd pick in the best rule 5 draft in recent history, we somehow managed to lose more than we gained (taking the very liberal assumption that Peralta will stick with Arizona).

[ScrubMD]

So with a 40-man full of dreck and the 2nd pick in the best rule 5 draft in recent history, we somehow managed to lose more than we gained (taking the very liberal assumption that Peralta will stick with Arizona).

 

Upside: You get an early start on whining today.

[Guest]

NASHVILLE – The Chicago Cubs today selected right-handed pitcher Hector Rondon from the Cleveland Indians in the Major League portion (first round, second overall) of the Rule 5 Draft.

 

Rondon, 24, is 36-36 with two complete games, one save and a 3.88 ERA (253 ER/587.0 IP) in 120 minor league games, all but seven as a starter, since being signed by Cleveland as a non-drafted free agent on August 3, 2004. He has struck out 526 batters while walking 121 in eight minor league seasons beginning in 2005.

 

In 2012, the six-foot-three, 180-pound Rondon posted no record with a 1.29 ERA (1 ER/7.0 IP) and nine strikeouts in four games (two starts) between the Rookie-League AZL Indians and Double-A Akron of the Eastern League after missing most of the past two seasons recovering from right elbow surgery. Rondon underwent right elbow UCL reconstruction surgery on August 25, 2010 and had a second procedure in December of 2011 to repair an elbow fracture.

 

The Guatire, Venezuela native was named Cleveland’s Minor League Pitcher of the Year in 2009 after going 11-10 with a complete game, a 3.38 ERA (55 ER/146.1 IP) and 137 strikeouts in 27 games (25 starts) between Double-A Akron and Triple-A Columbus. The Eastern League All-Star led the Indians organization in strikeouts, ranked third in wins and fourth in innings pitched. In 2008, Rondon went 11-6 with a 3.60 ERA (58 ER/145.0 IP) and 145 strikeouts in 27 starts with Single-A Kinston. He was named a Carolina League All-Star and the ninth-best prospect in the league by Baseball America, finishing among the league leaders in strikeouts (second), wins (fourth), innings (sixth) and ERA (eighth).

 

The Cubs lost right-handed pitcher Starling Peralta in the Major League portion of the Rule 5 Draft when he was selected in the first round (14th overall) by the Arizona Diamondbacks.

 

The Cubs also lost outfielder Michael Burgess, infielder Matt Cerda and right-handed pitcher Alvido Jimenez in the Triple-A phase of the Rule 5 Draft. Burgess was selected with the first pick overall by Houston, Cerda was selected with the 19th pick of the first round by St. Louis and Jimenez was selected in the second round by Toronto.

 

Chicago’s 40-man roster now stands at 38 players.

[Guest]

So with a 40-man full of dreck and the 2nd pick in the best rule 5 draft in recent history, we somehow managed to lose more than we gained (taking the very liberal assumption that Peralta will stick with Arizona).

 

I doubt the Cubs lose Peralta.

[Little Slide Rooter]

How does the AAA phase work anyway? Does it cost a 40 man spot?

 

It costs $12k and there's a 38-player AAA protected list for each team beyond the 40-man. It costs nothing else and the player is freely yours once you take him.

 

The AA portion is the same except it costs $4k and there's another 37-man AA protected list.

 

He can also be assigned to any level of the minors during the regular season with the new team but he must spend 15 days of spring training with the AA or AAA squad.

 

Must have been terrible pickings for a team that's looking to add to the famr system by any means necessary to pass.

 

I am dissapointed that we passed on round 2 with Chaffee on the board. He basically seems like a more big league ready Lendy Castillo who hasn't yet proved that he's bad.

[Guest]

There are only so many MLB roster spots. Right now Marmol, Fujikawa, Russell, Camp, and Rondon are all slated for one, and an offer is out to Grilli to make a 6th. You don't want every bullpen spot tied to a guy who you either keep or risk losing him every time you need a fresh bullpen arm.