Random Baseball Musings

[SouthSideRyan]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else), but I've got it at 56.5 for the Cubs. Josh Donaldson, Josh Harrison and Darwin Barney were big ones.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm trying to think how we get to 60. There's Shark, then there's...who?

If we're starting in 04', Zambrano, Wood, Marmol (think he didn't suck yet), Soto, Randy Wells had like 1.5 good years, Cool Cat, Theriot probably had 1-2 okay years, Castro, can't think of any other significant home grown contributors.

 

Castro is the only one of those guys acquired after '04.

[Guest]

I'm trying to think how we get to 60. There's Shark, then there's...who?

If we're starting in 04', Zambrano, Wood, Marmol (think he didn't suck yet), Soto, Randy Wells had like 1.5 good years, Cool Cat, Theriot probably had 1-2 okay years, Castro, can't think of any other significant home grown contributors.

 

Castro is the only one of those guys acquired after '04.

 

And, of course, he was not drafted.

[Cubswin11]

I'm trying to think how we get to 60. There's Shark, then there's...who?

If we're starting in 04', Zambrano, Wood, Marmol (think he didn't suck yet), Soto, Randy Wells had like 1.5 good years, Cool Cat, Theriot probably had 1-2 okay years, Castro, can't think of any other significant home grown contributors.

 

Castro is the only one of those guys acquired after '04.

I completely misunderstood the point of this exercise

[George Hayduke]

Sam Fuld, he's at 5 career WAR.

[Guest]

Here is all I can find.

 

Donaldson: 15.3

Samardzija: 9.9

Barney: 6.3

Harrison: 6.1

Fuld: 4.9

Cashner: 3.8

Blevins: 2.2

LeMahieu: 2.1

Guyer: 2.0

Flaherty: 1.5

Colvin: 1.4

Campana: 1.2

Russell: 0.4

Veal: 0.3

Gallagher: 0.2

Beliveau: 0.1

Rusin: 0.1

Bour: 0.1

Jackson: 0.0

Lopez: 0.0

Szczur: -0.1

Jokisch: -0.2

Raley: -0.6

Baez: -0.8

EPatt: -1

Clevenger: -1.1

Vitters: -1.3

 

Total: 52.8

 

Side note 1: holy cow, Marcus Hatley was drafted as a CF?!?

Side note 2: I don't know if the unsigned players like Sonny Gray would be counted here

[WrigleyField 22]

Did I miss the part if we are talking about bWAR or fWAR? Could obviously change the results greatly...

 

 

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[Guest]

Did I miss the part if we are talking about bWAR or fWAR? Could obviously change the results greatly...

 

 

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my list is fWAR. And really depressing.

[Andy]

Are they talking about guys drafted between 2004 and 2014, or contributions from guys who were drafted that occurred between 2004 and 2014? Because that could change things significantly.

[SouthSideRyan]

Are they talking about guys drafted between 2004 and 2014, or contributions from guys who were drafted that occurred between 2004 and 2014? Because that could change things significantly.

 

The Phillies certainly wouldn't be last if they were counting contributions from guys in that span. Utley alone has twice the WAR they gave the Phillies.

[Andy]

Are they talking about guys drafted between 2004 and 2014, or contributions from guys who were drafted that occurred between 2004 and 2014? Because that could change things significantly.

 

The Phillies certainly wouldn't be last if they were counting contributions from guys in that span. Utley alone has twice the WAR they gave the Phillies.

Good point. Their numbers must be off then, or they're counting Castro, or something like that.

[George Hayduke]

Not sure what David was looking at, but this article on the subject is looking at rWAR for players drafted 2005 - 2014. League average appears to be more like 65 vs the 100 that was mentioned...which seems more realistic to me.

 

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2014/11/20/7240035/phillies-recent-draft-history-boom-and-bust

[Guest]

Not sure what David was looking at, but this article on the subject is looking at rWAR for players drafted 2005 - 2014. League average appears to be more like 65 vs the 100 that was mentioned...which seems more realistic to me.

 

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2014/11/20/7240035/phillies-recent-draft-history-boom-and-bust

 

The quote was from

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/extending-ryan-howard-is-not-what-killed-the-phillies/

[Clem Fandango]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else)

 

The other guy in that scenario would be Tim Lincecum

Edited December 12, 2014 by The Logan

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else)

 

That other guy in that scenario would be Tim Lincecum

just about to say that. 27.4

[Guest]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else)

 

The other guy in that scenario would be Tim Lincecum

he was 2003.

[Clem Fandango]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else)

 

The other guy in that scenario would be Tim Lincecum

he was 2003.

 

It was that long ago? Damn.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed.

It is worth noting that this includes J.D. Drew, whom the Phillies drafted and did not sign;

[Guest]

http://www.southsidesox.com/2014/12/16/7403489/white-sox-sign-brad-penny-to-minor-league-deal

[Guest]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed (Sonny Gray and somebody else)

 

The other guy in that scenario would be Tim Lincecum

he was 2003.

 

It was that long ago? Damn.

 

Maybe they did something really stupid and included Fukudome?

[SouthSideRyan]

They're likely doing something stupid like counting guys who were drafted but not signed.

It is worth noting that this includes J.D. Drew, whom the Phillies drafted and did not sign;

 

That's particularly strange since Drew was drafted in the 90s

[jersey cubs fan]

Time to move the Rays to Havana

[Clem Fandango]

One-star Yelp reviews of MLB stadiums...

 

http://imgur.com/a/MjhEQ

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/dL04cog.png

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

more like better constructed

[Cubswin11]

I don't think it's been posted, The Brewers are building a "Bud Selig Experience" inside Miller Park this year. Idk what that is or means.