Random Baseball Musings

[jersey cubs fan]

Maybe I'm a crazy arch-conservative baseball mind, but if you're a team thats completely out of it, why wouldn't you shut down your young good starters? Like, if I'm the White Sox, I would have shut Chris Sale down like a month ago, because, who cares, and the dude already has mechanics that make people very nervous.

 

Of course, I'm sure Sale and his agent would be pissed, but he's like my prize asset, so why have him out there playing for nothing other than his own stats.

 

I'm looking forward to being thoroughly debunked by good info though.

I think the short answer is that you want your guys to eventually be able to pitch for 7 months. So get them prepared by not stopping at 5. Shutting a guy down in August does not guarantee you anything about his health in the future.

 

You also sold tickets to games and are obligated to try and win them. That's like rule #1 about professional sports.

[SouthSideRyan]

Of course, I'm sure Sale and his agent would be pissed, but he's like my prize asset, so why have him out there playing for nothing other than his own stats.

 

Not just they would be pissed if this became a pattern, but the MLBPA would likely file a grievance. And I'm guessing the commisioner would lean on a team pretty hard who made no bones about the fact that they're trying to intentionally lose down the stretch.

[BigSlick]

Maybe I'm a crazy arch-conservative baseball mind, but if you're a team thats completely out of it, why wouldn't you shut down your young good starters? Like, if I'm the White Sox, I would have shut Chris Sale down like a month ago, because, who cares, and the dude already has mechanics that make people very nervous.

 

Of course, I'm sure Sale and his agent would be pissed, but he's like my prize asset, so why have him out there playing for nothing other than his own stats.

 

I'm looking forward to being thoroughly debunked by good info though.

I think the short answer is that you want your guys to eventually be able to pitch for 7 months. So get them prepared by not stopping at 5. Shutting a guy down in August does not guarantee you anything about his health in the future.

 

You also sold tickets to games and are obligated to try and win them. That's like rule #1 about professional sports.

Ah yeah, thats a damn good point, you want a player that's stretched out enough to make a playoff run in the future.

 

And the union unfair labor practice move is also well noted.

 

I'm not saying teams are trying to *lose* specifically, just not risk their very best pitchers to suffer injury. Plenty of teams way out of it give starts to prospects and non-prospects just to see what they got in them, and they aren't *trying* to lose.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not saying teams are trying to *lose* specifically, just not risk their very best pitchers to suffer injury. Plenty of teams way out of it give starts to prospects and non-prospects just to see what they got in them, and they aren't *trying* to lose.

You should probably not send a guy out there for any taxing outings, avoid high pitch counts (especially in back to back games) and maybe skip a start or two or at least give a guy a day or two extra rest between outings.

 

I don't think shutting anybody down is a useful idea.

[Cubswin11]

I'm not saying teams are trying to *lose* specifically, just not risk their very best pitchers to suffer injury. Plenty of teams way out of it give starts to prospects and non-prospects just to see what they got in them, and they aren't *trying* to lose.

You should probably not send a guy out there for any taxing outings, avoid high pitch counts (especially in back to back games) and maybe skip a start or two or at least give a guy a day or two extra rest between outings.

 

I don't think shutting anybody down is a useful idea.

Agree, this is the best route. He's at 194 innings now, which is 20 more than last year but 20 fewer than 2 years ago. He only has 2 more starts left according to ESPN, just avoid ridiculous pitch counts.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not saying teams are trying to *lose* specifically, just not risk their very best pitchers to suffer injury. Plenty of teams way out of it give starts to prospects and non-prospects just to see what they got in them, and they aren't *trying* to lose.

You should probably not send a guy out there for any taxing outings, avoid high pitch counts (especially in back to back games) and maybe skip a start or two or at least give a guy a day or two extra rest between outings.

 

I don't think shutting anybody down is a useful idea.

Agree, this is the best route. He's at 194 innings now, which is 20 more than last year but 20 fewer than 2 years ago. He only has 2 more starts left according to ESPN, just avoid ridiculous pitch counts.

 

If we're talking about Sale specifically, he's also gone on extra rest twice this month and they obviously aren't pushing him. He's 26 and has many professional innings under his belt. If it was some 21 year old going past anything he's done before, I'd be much more conservative.

[davell]

I didn't see this anywhere, but Dusty is under serious consideration for the Marlins job.

[ctcf]

I didn't see this anywhere, but Dusty is under serious consideration for the Marlins job.

 

He and that team deserve each other.

 

Also if the Cubs ever had the chance to knock a Dusty-managed Marlins out of the playoffs one day, that might be one of the most cathartic moments of my sports fan life.

[ctcf]

I'd also like to take a moment and reflect on what an unmitigated train wreck AJ Preller's first year in San Diego has been. He came in, spent a huge chunk of the farm system acquiring players that went on to form one of the worst defenses in the leage and, assuming a loss tonight, will need to go 7-4 over their last 11 to even match last year's 77 wins.

[BCVM22]

Yoga Berra passed away Tuesday night at the age of 90.

[davell]

RIP Yogi

[jersey cubs fan]

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[ctcf]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/646784918207361025[/tweet]

 

KLaw gonna KLaw

[Guest]

beautiful

 

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[Guest]

I didn't see this anywhere, but Dusty is under serious consideration for the Marlins job.

 

He and that team deserve each other.

 

Also if the Cubs ever had the chance to knock a Dusty-managed Marlins out of the playoffs one day, that might be one of the most cathartic moments of my sports fan life.

+1, with that Asshat Fernandez on the mound.

[Guest]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/646789815992631296[/tweet]

[ctcf]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/646789815992631296[/tweet]

 

Thank god he was here to save us from that

[imb]

I didn't see this anywhere, but Dusty is under serious consideration for the Marlins job.

 

He and that team deserve each other.

 

Also if the Cubs ever had the chance to knock a Dusty-managed Marlins out of the playoffs one day, that might be one of the most cathartic moments of my sports fan life.

+1, with that Asshat Fernandez on the mound.

 

what the hell could you possibly have against fernandez

[Guest]

fernandez is awesome

[ctcf]

Yea I was confused by that as well. Fernandez is great.

[Cubswin11]

Yeah, wtf.

[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't see this anywhere, but Dusty is under serious consideration for the Marlins job.

 

He and that team deserve each other.

 

Also if the Cubs ever had the chance to knock a Dusty-managed Marlins out of the playoffs one day, that might be one of the most cathartic moments of my sports fan life.

+1, with that Asshat Fernandez on the mound.

 

Everything about you is incorrect.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

but his name is Asshat...

[Banedon]

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[RammyFanny]

I just noticed Russell Martin is going to be making an AAV of $19 million/yr for the next four seasons after this and my love for Miguel Montero just grew exponentially.