Random Baseball Musings

[Guest]

You have a different definition of 'modern era' than I do.

[Gmoney08]

Put the answer in the spoiler :(

[Sammy Sofa]

Dickety-nine ain't modern enough for you, fancypants?!?

[Gmoney08]

You have a different definition of 'modern era' than I do.

 

I know this is up for debate. So I clarified it as post 1900. I've read a few books that seem to have the 1st World Series as apart of the modern era. I've seen some have it as post deadball era (which correct me if I'm wrong ended probably somewhere around the late 1910's).

 

I'm sure there is other opinions too.

[Sammy Sofa]

Baseball "officially" looks at post-1900 as their modern era, though that's probably a combination of old dorks with onions on their belts and that most everyone forgot that that was the case. Personally, the modern era began once a bunch of teams started integrating.

[sneakypower]

got it on my first guess

 

i'll credit the countless hours i played this game as a kid, though:

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/2051-1.jpg

[SouthSideRyan]

got it on my first guess

 

i'll credit the countless hours i played this game as a kid, though:

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/2051-1.jpg

 

Earl Weaver for me.

[Guest]

Baseball Mogul crew?

[Andy]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

[Guest]

Yes, the "I've been waiting my whole life" mid-twenties Cubs fans. So have 20 other teams' fan bases (assuming you started paying attention at a really early age in about 1994 or so).

 

And some of them have had a lot more crappy time waiting.

 

Honestly, if it weren't for the two gift-wrapped WS the Cardinals got The whole 1908 thing would mean nothing to me whatsoever.

 

yeah thats the part i just can't buy about mojos argument

 

there is no self loathing. we aren't 80 years old.

 

you live a sheltered life

 

i realized i sort of confused this whole conversation as it went in my head

 

yes, many cubs fans suck, probably even cubs fans in general because people generally are idiots and lots of people are cubs fans

 

what i was trying to say before is that being a cubs fan doesn't suck...or at least didn't for people in the like 20-40 age group prior to the last 5 years.

 

from 1995-2009 there's a decent amount of teams i would not have traded places with (in other words there were definitely more embarrassing organizations - not this whole hyperbolic omg cubs are so terrible thing that everyone perceieves) and going forward from now i'd trade places with basically none.

[Proven Veteran]

Yes, the "I've been waiting my whole life" mid-twenties Cubs fans. So have 20 other teams' fan bases (assuming you started paying attention at a really early age in about 1994 or so).

 

And some of them have had a lot more crappy time waiting.

 

Honestly, if it weren't for the two gift-wrapped WS the Cardinals got The whole 1908 thing would mean nothing to me whatsoever.

 

yeah thats the part i just can't buy about mojos argument

 

there is no self loathing. we aren't 80 years old.

 

you live a sheltered life

 

i realized i sort of confused this whole conversation as it went in my head

 

yes, many cubs fans suck, probably even cubs fans in general because people generally are idiots and lots of people are cubs fans

 

what i was trying to say before is that being a cubs fan doesn't suck...or at least didn't for people in the like 20-40 age group prior to the last 5 years.

 

from 1995-2009 there's a decent amount of teams i would not have traded places with (in other words there were definitely more embarrassing organizations - not this whole hyperbolic omg cubs are so terrible thing that everyone perceieves) and going forward from now i'd trade places with basically none.

I would trade with any team that has won a world series in my lifetime.

[Guest]

Yes, the "I've been waiting my whole life" mid-twenties Cubs fans. So have 20 other teams' fan bases (assuming you started paying attention at a really early age in about 1994 or so).

 

And some of them have had a lot more crappy time waiting.

 

Honestly, if it weren't for the two gift-wrapped WS the Cardinals got The whole 1908 thing would mean nothing to me whatsoever.

 

yeah thats the part i just can't buy about mojos argument

 

there is no self loathing. we aren't 80 years old.

 

you live a sheltered life

 

i realized i sort of confused this whole conversation as it went in my head

 

yes, many cubs fans suck, probably even cubs fans in general because people generally are idiots and lots of people are cubs fans

 

what i was trying to say before is that being a cubs fan doesn't suck...or at least didn't for people in the like 20-40 age group prior to the last 5 years.

 

from 1995-2009 there's a decent amount of teams i would not have traded places with (in other words there were definitely more embarrassing organizations - not this whole hyperbolic omg cubs are so terrible thing that everyone perceieves) and going forward from now i'd trade places with basically none.

I would trade with any team that has won a world series in my lifetime.

 

from 95-2009, i'd trade with the braves, yankees, red sox, and cardinals. MAYBE the indians too just because i loved those mid 90s teams that much... the braves don't fill all my checkboxes as far as fan experience goes but the success was just so consistent and so substantial through 10 years or so of that, that i can't not name them. might have missed another.

 

i'd say the marlins but this isn't just about what they did on field (even though most of that period was shitty except those two fluke years). being a marlins fan has to suck. especially when they played in that [expletive] hole football stadium. it's about everything you can possibly like about your team, be it the stadium, popularity, performance, or even if its just that you like the [expletive] uniform or some silly ass thing like that. based on my personal criteria, which are obviously subjective because that's often how things like what human beings like are determined, those are the only orgs I'd have rather been a fan of. teams in crappy boring stadiums with crappy followings don't do much for me, even if they've sniffed some success. fully admit that a big part of what is fun about when the cubs are good is the entire atmosphere and the fact that so many people get excited and i'm cool with saying that. there's no more fun summers in the city than when the cubs are good. when we play road games and you see half or more of the crowd in blue and out-cheering the other team's fans, that's [expletive] fun even if they are all terrible idiots.

 

what i'm saying is being a rays fan or a [expletive] astros, twins, brewers, or blue jays fan or some other boring ass organization (which is kind of paradoxical because you can't really be a fan of something you dont like, but w/e)...that sounds a hell of a lot worse than being a cubs fan to me.

 

all of that said, 2010-2014 was absolute hell on earth and there's no amount of relevance or fun or atmosphere that can make that OK, so this is kinda all moot since i'm mostly pretending those years didn't exist.

 

when the cubs are at all good, though, and i'm obviously biased, but being a cubs fan is the absolute bees knees.

[Guest]

Mariners? (from '95)

[Clem Fandango]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Ha, I actually have MVP 2005 for PC and I just recently installed it and got the 2014 Mod for it. Game wouldn't cooperate well with Windows 8 though unfortunately so I got rid of it. But I had played it for years on my PC since I got it back in like 2008. I've held on to it ever since because it actually has value. Found it in a GameStop randomly for like $15. I remember when MLB 2K came to the PC (in 2011 I think?) the MVP Mods community said they were going to stop modding MVP 2005 and move over to 2K. That never stopped people from continuing to mod it.

 

Also, I know we all hated the 2K series, but 2K11, which I pirated because I didn't know if it was worth a purchase, actually wasn't terrible. It was basically a MLB The Show clone with worse graphics. I got a lot of fun out of it for the time I played it.

 

got it on my first guess

 

i'll credit the countless hours i played this game as a kid, though:

 

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/2051-1.jpg

 

I played the [expletive] out of that as a kid, too.

[Sammys Boombox]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Played this game in college on XBox for hours against guys on my floor.

[Guest]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Played this game in college on XBox for hours against guys on my floor.

 

is that the one with

 

don't look at me that wayyyy, it was an honest mistaaake

 

 

or he rocks his iroc-z, he rocks it well...something something finger tapping yeah van halen is the man?

[Clem Fandango]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Played this game in college on XBox for hours against guys on my floor.

 

is that the one with

 

don't look at me that wayyyy, it was an honest mistaaake

 

 

or he rocks his iroc-z, he rocks it well...something something finger tapping yeah van halen is the man?

 

Yes it is. The MVP mod soundtracks are pretty bad though. They have horrible selections, though I'm assuming it's comprised of song selections from each of the contributors rather than a moderator of good taste. It';s not that the songs are bad, per se, but the original MVP games, somehow, always picked really good songs that seemed to fit well with the feel of the game. The MVP 14 mod was basically a bunch of EDM and dubstep and like a Bonnie Raitt track thrown in there or something.

[Sammys Boombox]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Played this game in college on XBox for hours against guys on my floor.

 

is that the one with

 

don't look at me that wayyyy, it was an honest mistaaake

 

 

or he rocks his iroc-z, he rocks it well...something something finger tapping yeah van halen is the man?

 

Yes it is. The MVP mod soundtracks are pretty bad though. They have horrible selections, though I'm assuming it's comprised of song selections from each of the contributors rather than a moderator of good taste. It';s not that the songs are bad, per se, but the original MVP games, somehow, always picked really good songs that seemed to fit well with the feel of the game. The MVP 14 mod was basically a bunch of EDM and dubstep and like a Bonnie Raitt track thrown in there or something.

 

Tessie, enough said McGravy shouted. Or something like that.

[Andy]

This might belong in the video game thread, but a great Grantland article today about obsessive types who are constantly working to keep the PC version of MVP Baseball 2005 up to date.

 

Played this game in college on XBox for hours against guys on my floor.

 

is that the one with

 

don't look at me that wayyyy, it was an honest mistaaake

 

 

or he rocks his iroc-z, he rocks it well...something something finger tapping yeah van halen is the man?

 

Yes it is. The MVP mod soundtracks are pretty bad though. They have horrible selections, though I'm assuming it's comprised of song selections from each of the contributors rather than a moderator of good taste. It';s not that the songs are bad, per se, but the original MVP games, somehow, always picked really good songs that seemed to fit well with the feel of the game. The MVP 14 mod was basically a bunch of EDM and dubstep and like a Bonnie Raitt track thrown in there or something.

 

Tessie, enough said McGravy shouted. Or something like that.

Tessie is a karaoke bar staple when my best man and I get together.

 

All those songs are terrific. I have most on my phone.

[KaiserCesar]

For 4-5 years before my PS2 conked out, I played the MVP NCAA version that came out after EA lost the license. Talk about awful soundtrack, though.

[Sammys Boombox]

For 4-5 years before my PS2 conked out, I played the MVP NCAA version that came out after EA lost the license. Talk about awful soundtrack, though.

 

The stadium invent thing was awesome.

[Cubswin11]

The Braves just brought in a pitcher named Sugar Ray Marimon

[ConstableRabbit]

[bukie]

Joe Morgan had four seasons in which he had 50+ XBH, 50+ SB, and 100+ walks. No other player in history ever did it even once.

[SouthSideRyan]

Joe Morgan had four seasons in which he had 50+ XBH, 50+ SB, and 100+ walks. No other player in history ever did it even once.

 

I can't believe Rickey never did that.

 

ETA: 1 BB shy in '85.

 

Other close ones:

 

Bonds was 7 BBs shy in '90

Cobb was 3 XBH shy in '15

Edited April 15, 2015 by SouthSideRyan