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bad umpiring is not a significant issue that's crippling the game. not even close. for the most part they do a fine job.

 

replacing the home plate umpire with a robot is just weird.

 

The lack of crippling of the game is hardly a defense of something that is still done poorly.

It's not done poorly. This sequence is clearly an outlier.

 

The sort of accuracy and consistency people are craving is already being achieved by the human umps. They're not infallible, but they're right 99.9% of the time. Things like video replays and timing equipment (in other sports) aren't infallable either. There's a failure rate with technology too.

 

you think that umpires are correct 999 times out of 1000?

Turns out it's not 99.9%. It's ~95% on ball/strike calls, and ~99.5% on all other calls.

 

And that 95% is based on an assumption that the camera/computer is 100% accurate, which it surely isn't. More correct would be to say that the human and the camera/computer agree on balls and strikes ~95% of the time. Which is right and which is wrong in the other 5% of cases is open to debate.

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This is like when people hype up Lunardi for getting 95% of the teams in the tournament correct. I don't care how many obvious ball/strikes an ump gets right, what's their percentage on borderline pitches? Is there any consistency at all with those calls from individual umps let alone across the board?
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Which is right and which is wrong in the other 5% of cases is open to debate.

 

ok so basically they're never outright wrong. it's just "open to debate."

 

sure are giving bad umpires a hell of a lot of credit here. there are, relative to their peers, good baseball players and bad baseball players. alex rodriguez gets to play for a really long time, because he's really good. jose macias is lousy, so his career is short. why shouldn't the system be the same for umpires, where good umpires work for 30 years and retire, and the bruce froemmings and cb bucknors of the world lose their jobs after 3 years because they suck?

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Which is right and which is wrong in the other 5% of cases is open to debate.

 

ok so basically they're never outright wrong. it's just "open to debate."

 

OK so basically no.

 

There will be instances where the human gets it wrong, and instances where the technology gets it wrong.

 

sure are giving bad umpires a hell of a lot of credit here. there are, relative to their peers, good baseball players and bad baseball players. alex rodriguez gets to play for a really long time, because he's really good. jose macias is lousy, so his career is short. why shouldn't the system be the same for umpires, where good umpires work for 30 years and retire, and the bruce froemmings and cb bucknors of the world lose their jobs after 3 years because they suck?

How MLB evaluates umps is a separate topic from whether MLB should have umps.

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erik316wttn

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probably my favorite baseball game of all time

 

Screw that. Base Wars was where it was at.

 

If we got rid of human umpires then we wouldn't have Steve McMichael getting ejected during the 7th inning stretch.

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probably my favorite baseball game of all time

 

Screw that. Base Wars was where it was at.

 

If we got rid of human umpires then we wouldn't have Steve McMichael getting ejected during the 7th inning stretch.

 

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javy knows my name

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probably my favorite baseball game of all time

 

Screw that. Base Wars was where it was at.

 

If we got rid of human umpires then we wouldn't have Steve McMichael getting ejected during the 7th inning stretch.

 

OK, there it is.

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I wish I had a job that I could basically [expletive] up so bad that it ruins the company I work for and have complete impunity
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To be fair, the angle he had looked like he couldn't get a clear view of whether or not Helton's foot was on the bag and probably just assumed it was.

 

That being said, he's an idiot for assuming it was without bothering to make a quick adjustment to check. If you can't see the players foot on the bag adjust your line of sight, genius.

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What's the argument against giving each manager a challenge per game?

 

Something something TRADITION something

 

BUT THE HUMAN ELEMENT! IT'S ESSENTIAL!!

 

In all seriousness, though, the arguments I've heard against replay mainly skew to "The games are too long already and replay will just make them longer", but I wouldn't imagine something that egregious would take very long at all to sort out.

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