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  1. 1. Cannabis

    • Keep it completely illegal
      7
    • Make it legal for medical purposes only
      4
    • Decriminalize it (only a fine if caught)
      10
    • Legalize it completely
      60


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I changed my stance on this. Shouldn't be legal. We already have enough crap that's legal why add to it. Or make it legal and regulate doctors from giving out meds like it's candy. Seriously, it's killing this country.

freedom hater

 

Do you honestly think that legalizing weed is going to increase the number of marijuana users in this country? Maybe slightly, but not enough for that to be a reason against legalizing pot. Are potheads really killing this country more than the excessive jailing of petty criminals?

 

Did we increase the number of alcohol users with the end of prohibition?

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I never said Potheads are killing this country. They are just killing brain cells. Just don't know if it's a good idea to throw another drug out there for the kiddies to try. I don't know, I might be over sensitive because I have kids, but I sure don't want any more crap for them to try. Again, I'm more concerned about Meds.

 

If your kids want to try marijuana they will have absolutely no problem finding an opportunity to do so. Whether it's illegal or not is completely irrelevant.

 

Did we increase the number of alcohol users with the end of prohibition?

 

Decreased the percentage of alcoholics and the number of alcohol-related fatalities.

 

Ugh, I took the bait. This guy be trollin'.

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I never said Potheads are killing this country. They are just killing brain cells. Just don't know if it's a good idea to throw another drug out there for the kiddies to try. I don't know, I might be over sensitive because I have kids, but I sure don't want any more crap for them to try. Again, I'm more concerned about Meds.

 

If your kids want to try marijuana they will have absolutely no problem finding an opportunity to do so. Whether it's illegal or not is completely irrelevant.

 

Did we increase the number of alcohol users with the end of prohibition?

 

Decreased the percentage of alcoholics and the number of alcohol-related fatalities.

 

Ugh, I took the bait. This guy be trollin'.

 

Really? Didn't know that. I'd think the alcoholics and fatalities would increase. Interesting...

 

Thanks for the info Nuts.

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Even aside from the awesomeness that is hemp, weed is kind of a miracle drug. Legalize and regulate. Maybe we can get some people off Prozac and Zoloft.

 

Miracle drug? LOL!!!!

 

What kind of miracle does it perform?

 

You're an embarrassment to everything.

 

This is sufficiently dumbed-down for you: http://guyism.com/lifestyle/10-major-health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana.html

 

I don't believe it. Photoshopped.

 

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000141

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Even aside from the awesomeness that is hemp, weed is kind of a miracle drug. Legalize and regulate. Maybe we can get some people off Prozac and Zoloft.

 

Miracle drug? LOL!!!!

 

What kind of miracle does it perform?

 

You're an embarrassment to everything.

 

This is sufficiently dumbed-down for you: http://guyism.com/lifestyle/10-major-health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana.html

More like excessively dumbed down.

Doctors in California report that they have been able to treat more than 300,000 cases of migraines with medical marijuana.
This just says a group of (freely weed-dispensing, borderline activist) doctors are willing to prescribe marijuana to people who claim to suffer from migraines. The wording does nothing to address the effectiveness. I treat all my migraines with bacon and beer.

 

A well-documented 2009 USC study showed that marijuana is not only a perfect alternative for Ritalin, but treats the disorder without any of the negative side-effects of the pharmaceutical.
I couldn't find the study, so I'll accept that marijuana is comparably effective to Ritalin, but the part about side effects is completely unnecessary. Either it's trying to misleadingly imply that marijuana doesn't have any negative side effects, or it's playing captain obvious and saying that marijuana's side effects are just different from Ritalin's.

 

Anecdotal evidence suggests that cannabis use may reduce pain in severe cases of PMS.
Anecdotal evidence? Seriously? Anecdotal evidence also suggests that marijuana leads to hallucinogenic murderous rampages. It also suggests that I have an eleven-inch dong.
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Yeah, there's plenty of research to be done, but some people go pretty hilariously overboard in propping up weed as some kind of miracle drug.
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Posted (edited)
Easy on the kid and let him fight for his cause. We all need one, and his miracle drug is in a bong dammit! Edited by C.C.
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Yeah, there's plenty of research to be done, but some people go pretty hilariously overboard in propping up weed as some kind of miracle drug.

 

I have to deal with too many of these people. Marijuana has some limited medial benefits, but of course has its share of negative health effects. It certainly isn't a harmless wonder drug that has been totally demonized.

 

Having said that, it should be legalized, regulated and taxed. If alcohol is legal, there's absolutely no reason weed shouldn't be. Of course I think the entire "war on drugs" is a massive, egregious waste of resources and profoundly negative social force, but criminalizing pot is particularly dumb.

 

And for the record I haven't smoked up in years and wouldn't even if it were legal.

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Yeah, there's plenty of research to be done, but some people go pretty hilariously overboard in propping up weed as some kind of miracle drug.

 

I have to deal with too many of these people. Marijuana has some limited medial benefits, but of course has its share of negative health effects. It certainly isn't a harmless wonder drug that has been totally demonized.

 

Having said that, it should be legalized, regulated and taxed. If alcohol is legal, there's absolutely no reason weed shouldn't be. Of course I think the entire "war on drugs" is a massive, egregious waste of resources and profoundly negative social force, but criminalizing pot is particularly dumb.

 

And for the record I haven't smoked up in years and wouldn't even if it were legal.

 

See I don't get that argument. All because one drug is legal, lets make another one legal. Why give more options to get wasted?

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Yeah, there's plenty of research to be done, but some people go pretty hilariously overboard in propping up weed as some kind of miracle drug.

 

I have to deal with too many of these people. Marijuana has some limited medial benefits, but of course has its share of negative health effects. It certainly isn't a harmless wonder drug that has been totally demonized.

 

Having said that, it should be legalized, regulated and taxed. If alcohol is legal, there's absolutely no reason weed shouldn't be. Of course I think the entire "war on drugs" is a massive, egregious waste of resources and profoundly negative social force, but criminalizing pot is particularly dumb.

 

And for the record I haven't smoked up in years and wouldn't even if it were legal.

 

See I don't get that argument. All because one drug is legal, lets make another one legal. Why give more options to get wasted?

 

Because people will do it (prolifically) regardless of legality. That's what some people don't want to reconcile with. All making it illegal does is create a criminal culture around it, spawning violence and filling up prisons with many people who don't need to be there (users, growers). It's easy to produce, so it's hard to regulate.

 

Being that trying to stamp it out is a total waste of time, money and lives, why not legalize and tax it, turning it from a monetary sinkhole into a source of revenue? Doing so would also all but kill off crime related to its production, trafficking and sale, freeing up prison space for people who should actually be there.

 

As a substance, it's equal to or less (almost certainly the former) of a disruptive social force than booze.

 

Legalizing it makes so much sense it's not even funny. Which is why it is just a matter of time.

Posted
the de facto stance should not be "it's illegal now justify why it should be legalized". The de facto should be it's legal, now justify why it should not be. There would be no good reason to make pot illegal today if it was legal. The opposite cannot be said.
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the de facto stance should not be "it's illegal now justify why it should be legalized". The de facto should be it's legal, now justify why it should not be. There would be no good reason to make pot illegal today if it was legal. The opposite cannot be said.

 

Point taken and it does make sense. I guess it's the parent in me that scares the crap out of me to have booze and pot legal at the same time. I never liked pot and I don't drink, so it doesn't effect me in the slightest.

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A well-documented 2009 USC study showed that marijuana is not only a perfect alternative for Ritalin, but treats the disorder without any of the negative side-effects of the pharmaceutical.

Maybe it's because I have ADD instead of ADHD, but I find that absolutely ludicrous.

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