Barry Larkin elected to HOF

[bukie]

The 97 Marlins' best bet may be Jim Leyland.

[El Duderino]

The 97 Marlins' best bet may be Jim Leyland.

 

Leyland will definitely get in eventually. but does the manager count?

[Rob]

Yeah, that seems like a cop out.

[ConstableRabbit]

The '84 Tigers only have Sparky Anderson, so I guess we're counting managers.

[bukie]

The '84 Tigers only have Sparky Anderson, so I guess we're counting managers.

Don't forget Jack Morris next year.

 

I'm going to really hate next year's HOF voting, aren't I?

[rocket]

eh, since santo's in the hall of fame now, i probably won't be as upset when inferior players get elected.

[OleMissCub]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

[Clem Fandango]

But Barry ain't da Yankees hit leadah, brainiahck.

 

JEEETAHHHHH

[Guest]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

[Guest]

The '84 Tigers only have Sparky Anderson, so I guess we're counting managers.

Don't forget Jack Morris next year.

 

I'm going to really hate next year's HOF voting, aren't I?

Trammel should be in.

[El Duderino]

I wonder if Biggio will get in 1st ballot... has a guy with 3000 hits ever had to wait?

[illiniguy]

I wonder if Biggio will get in 1st ballot... has a guy with 3000 hits ever had to wait?

Is Raffy eligible yet?

[Cubswin11]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

.....

[Sammy Sofa]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

.....

 

Who is your objection? Rizzuto? Jeter crushes him.

[rocket]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

 

i read that more as barry larkin is underrated, not that jeter is overrated. even the staunchest of yankee haters know jeter belongs in the hall.

[Cubswin11]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

.....

 

Who is your objection? Rizzuto? Jeter crushes him.

Kinda my point, SS is a pretty weak position in Yankee history. So saying Jeter is HOF worthy because "he's the best ss in Yankee history" is over hyping him seeing as he's not going against anyone who's statistically been all that great. And using the defense that someone should be in the HOF just because they rank high in an individual organization or at an organizational position historically doesn't stand as a strong defense in someone's HOF worthiness, imo.

 

Jeter belongs in the HOF for other reasons than simply saying/being he's the best SS in Yankee history (not that the original post was using that as the only reason for Jeter's HOF inclusion).

Edited July 23, 2012 by Cubswin11

[OleMissCub]

i read that more as barry larkin is underrated, not that jeter is overrated. even the staunchest of yankee haters know jeter belongs in the hall.

 

Precisely.

[TruffleShuffle]

was there no discussion of santo being enshrined? i almost forgot that it was happening. i guess it just goes to show how much less significant it was since they did it after he passed away. F off veterans committee.

[XZero771679666304]

was there no discussion of santo being enshrined? i almost forgot that it was happening. i guess it just goes to show how much less significant it was since they did it after he passed away. F off veterans committee.

 

FWIW, Gammons tweeted that Vicky Santo's speech was the best induction speech he's ever heard.

[Guest]

Was looking at some stats earlier and found it interesting that in his 2200 games, Larkin accumulated a total WAR of 67.1 and Jeter through roughly 2500 games is at 67.9. So for all the hype that Jeter gets (and we all know why) he is more or less the same player as Larkin. More evidence of this is that Jeter's average career OPS+ is 117 and Larkin's is 116.

I'm not sure what the point is here? Comparing Jeter to a HOFer? He's going in because he is deserving. How can he be over hyped? He's the best SS in Yankee history and among the best ever. I'm not sure anyone has compared him to Honus Wagner.

 

You guys can continue to bag on Jeter all you want, but he's among the greatest of all time.

.....

 

Who is your objection? Rizzuto? Jeter crushes him.

Kinda my point, SS is a pretty weak position in Yankee history. So saying Jeter is HOF worthy because "he's the best ss in Yankee history" is over hyping him seeing as he's not going against anyone who's statistically been all that great. And using the defense that someone should be in the HOF just because they rank high in an individual organization or at an organizational position historically doesn't stand as a strong defense in someone's HOF worthiness, imo.

 

Jeter belongs in the HOF for other reasons than simply saying/being he's the best SS in Yankee history (not that the original post was using that as the only reason for Jeter's HOF inclusion).

Face it, you blew it trying to be cool. That wasn't my point and you know it. As I said in my post, not only is he the greatest shortstop in Yankee history, he is among the best, all time at his position. How in the [expletive] can he be overhyped?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

was there no discussion of santo being enshrined? i almost forgot that it was happening. i guess it just goes to show how much less significant it was since they did it after he passed away. F off veterans committee.

 

FWIW, Gammons tweeted that Vicky Santo's speech was the best induction speech he's ever heard.

She really did a great job.

[javy knows my name]

Kinda my point, SS is a pretty weak position in Yankee history. So saying Jeter is HOF worthy because "he's the best ss in Yankee history" is over hyping him seeing as he's not going against anyone who's statistically been all that great. And using the defense that someone should be in the HOF just because they rank high in an individual organization or at an organizational position historically doesn't stand as a strong defense in someone's HOF worthiness, imo.

 

Jeter belongs in the HOF for other reasons than simply saying/being he's the best SS in Yankee history (not that the original post was using that as the only reason for Jeter's HOF inclusion).

Face it, you blew it trying to be cool. That wasn't my point and you know it. As I said in my post, not only is he the greatest shortstop in Yankee history, he is among the best, all time at his position. How in the [expletive] can he be overhyped?

 

Try as I might, I can't even begin to guess what you mean by this. Except that you're a crazy person.

[Pushfrog98]

I can't say (or read) Barry Larkin's name without thinking about Barry Lincoln. I wish this was not the case.

[jersey cubs fan]

What?

 

I cannot think of Barry Larkin without first thinking of Barry Lincoln's man on the street questions.

[Pushfrog98]

What?

 

I cannot think of Barry Larkin without first thinking of Barry Lincoln's man on the street questions.

Son of a bitch, how'd I miss that? My bad! I'm glad I'm not the only one, then!