Trading Soriano

[Guest]

Yeah, the time to deal Sori is when he's putting up an .800+ OPS at midseason, if we're out of it. Right now, I want to see what this team is capable of.

What if he's not doing that? In my mind the Cubs can extract maximum return especially if they eat a little more salary. This is about as good an opportunity as they can reasonably expect. Who knows if the Yanks are interest though. He got the choker label there before.

[Sammy Sofa]

"Maximum return" could still be dick (and likely is).

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah, the time to deal Sori is when he's putting up an .800+ OPS at midseason, if we're out of it. Right now, I want to see what this team is capable of.

What if he's not doing that? In my mind the Cubs can extract maximum return especially if they eat a little more salary. This is about as good an opportunity as they can reasonably expect. Who knows if the Yanks are interest though. He got the choker label there before.

 

What you get for Soriano isn't going to be important enough that you have to focus on maximizing the return like that. Now or in July, it'll be some guy that we get crazy excited about because he was top-100 on one list at some point and might fit into our top 10.

[biittner77]

"Maximum return" could still be dick (and likely is).

 

This time of year you almost never see a team overpay for a guy like Soriano. The Yankees - or any team, really-would have to overpay to make it worth it for the Cubs.

[Post Count Padder]

Cashman basically said they're not trading for Soriano and will go with in-house options. I'd rather have Sori now anyway. If we're doing poorly at the deadline and he's playing well enough, deal him then. I honestly don't think we'd get a good enough return for him now anyway.

[A New Era]

yeah I think we could get a Vizciano type return at the deadline. Well maybe not exactly, but easily someone in the top 5.

[Bull]

"Maximum return" could still be dick (and likely is).

 

This time of year you almost never see a team overpay for a guy like Soriano. The Yankees - or any team, really-would have to overpay to make it worth it for the Cubs.

 

Sounds like that's basically what went down.

[Guest]

Marlin Bystro:

 

Soriano is still being shopped. Keep hearing Philadelphia even though the Cubs turned down a really good offer a few months back.

[Clem Fandango]

Marlin Bystro:

 

Soriano is still being shopped. Keep hearing Philadelphia even though the Cubs turned down a really good offer a few months back.

 

That "really good offer" must have been subjective. I can't imagine the Cubs turning down a really good offer for Soriano when that's exactly what they're trying to get.

[Tryptamine]

I thought Bystro mentioned before that Dominic Brown was being offered. I'm not particularly upset if that's all it was.

[davell]

There have been insinuations from beat writers it was a pitcher that went to Minnesota in the Ben Revere deal. So, that'd be Vance Worley or Trevor May. If it was one of them AND Brown, I'd be wishing we had pulled the trigger. My guess is it was May and scraps, which isn't enough to make me upset. I'd love to get Jesse Biddle from them, but its too much of a return. Although, I can easiky see our group holding firm on him being in the deal.

[Little Slide Rooter]

My thinking is at this point, Theo's only moving him to further build the youth movement. There's no reason to railroad him out of town for the sake of doing so at this point. He still puts up better numbers than you're likely to get by pulling another LaHair out of AAA. If nobody's giving up what we want at this point, try again in July.

 

I do think that they're willing to eat as much salary as it takes to get the best player return possible. Assuming we're eating 30 some mil, nobody can fault them for wanting something of real value. Even if he does fall off a cliff, our system's strong enough that we can afford to play chicken without banging our heads over missing out on a few fringe prospects, if that's all that's been offered at this point.

[Little Slide Rooter]

@Tom_Gage: #TIgers Leyland about an extra RH-hitting OF: "We want one. You can take that to the bank. It's 99.9 percent (sure) we'll have one."

 

So the Tigers, a win now team want a closer and a RH OF. Someone flash the Theo Signal.

[davell]

Every indication is they don't like Marmol, plus Rondon has looked much better for them recently. As for Soriano? Sure, they could use him. That said, they've got nothing in their system worth a damn, outside of Castellanos, who I can't see them parting with. Garcia is OK, I guess. Maybe they'd send us Porcello for Sori? I know some here can't stand him, but that'd be a very solid return, in my eyes. Probably too much of a return actually.

[Guest]

I just noticed that Porcello has 18K/0BB in 18 IP this spring.

 

Just spring, but that's pretty sexy.

[SouthSideRyan]

I just noticed that Porcello has 18K/0BB in 18 IP this spring.

 

Just spring, but that's pretty sexy.

 

That's like a season's worth of Ks for him

[Guest]

He's been working on getting more K's. Throwing more breaking stuff.

[Cubswin11]

I just noticed that Porcello has 18K/0BB in 18 IP this spring.

 

Just spring, but that's pretty sexy.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/an-examination-of-rick-porcellos-strikeouts/