Joe Paterno

[TruffleShuffle]

That's hardly damning, the part you've quoted, anyway. She stuck her nose in places it didn't belong. How many jobs has she been fired from now? Just wondering...

 

Paterno never had a problem with males sticking their appendages where they didn't belong. Is he sexist now?

 

-3.8

[jersey cubs fan]

http://deadspin.com/5862318/new-abuse-allegation-against-jerry-sandusky-came-from-a-family-member-his-lawyer-says

 

More disquieting news from the Patriot-News, which is withholding the details of the child's familial relationship to Sandusky: "The attorney for Jerry Sandusky says one of the two new cases of alleged sexual abuse under investigation by Children and Youth Services was made by a family member

[minnesotacubsfan]

cant we just hang the bastard already

[jersey cubs fan]

http://deadspin.com/5862285/sandusky-victims-mother-on-community-now-our-football-team-is-going-to-lose-and-its-all-because-of-your-son

 

Two stories have been published today that shed a harrowing light on the awful circumstances faced by the boy identified by the Penn State grand jury summary as Victim 1:

 

1. The Huffington Post's Ryan D. Buell interviewed the boy's mother several times, and his story summarizing what she had to say includes plenty of details about how badly her son was mistreated at Central Mountain High School—by skeptical administrators as well as cruel fellow students and others in the community. The boy withdrew from attending Central Mountain last week.

 

2. Nate Schweber and Jo Becker of the New York Times do their best to profile Victim 1 by talking to some of those who know him. Two themes are covered: The account of a friend of the boy who went along for an outing that included Sandusky and Victim 1; and the story of a track coach who had carved out a role as the boy's mentor, only to get fired once the boy began tuning him out and the school got wind of the coach's efforts to try to get through to him.

 

Sp

orts Illustrated also spoke with Turchetta for its lengthy cover story about the Penn State scandal and even referred to him as "one of the few good guys in a sordid story." But Victim 1's mother clearly sees him differently:

 

According to Mother One, the woman added, "Coach Turchetta said these charges are never going to stick and he'll walk away."

 

"She never asked me if the charges were true. She just finished up with, 'Thanks a lot. Now our football team is going to lose and it's all because of your son.'"

[17 Seconds]

PHILADELPHIA -- Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abused a boy more than 100 times, and threatened to harm his family to keep him quiet, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday by a new accuser who is not part of the criminal case.

 

The 29-year-old, identified only as John Doe, had never told anyone about the alleged abuse until Sandusky was charged this month with abusing other boys. He filed a complaint with law enforcement on Tuesday, and a day later became the first plaintiff to file suit in the Penn State child sex-abuse scandal.

 

The lawsuit claims Sandusky abused the boy from 1992, when the boy was 10, until 1996, at the coach's State College home, in a Penn State locker room and on trips, including to a bowl game. The account echoes a grand jury's description of trips, gifts and attention lavished on other alleged victims.

The lawsuit names Sandusky, the university and The Second Mile charity as defendants. The man says he knew the coach through the charity, which Sandusky founded in 1977 to help disadvantaged children in central Pennsylvania.

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7298112/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-first-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse-lawsuit-comes-new-accuser

[EhDubya]

When Sandusky wasn't coaching, eating or sleeping, he was molesting, apparently.

 

I still think Sandusky and Fine should have their own threads. Oh wait, this board doesn't care about Fine/Boeheim. It's all Paterno's fault.

[Theo]

:roll:

[EhDubya]

Sandusky and Fine appear to be scumbags, I just find it odd that there has been absolutely zero mention of the Bernie Fine situation on this board (this is actually the very first time his name is mentioned on this site). Are all of the rabble rousers burnt out from the Paterno assassination? Not saying the situations are identical, but where is the outrage over Boeheim attacking possible victims in the press? Where is the outrage over ESPN having a tape of Fine's wife admitting molestation, but doing nothing with it for 8 years? Where is the outrage over a former Cuse player heading up the police department telling an accuser and victim to "[expletive] off"? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE I ASK?!1

[XZero771679666304]

Sandusky and Fine appear to be scumbags, I just find it odd that there has been absolutely zero mention of the Bernie Fine situation on this board. Are all of the rabble rousers burnt out from the Paterno assassination? Not saying the situations are identical, but where is the outrage over Boeheim attacking possible victims in the press? Where is the outrage over ESPN having a tape of Fine's wife admitting molestation, but doing nothing with it for 8 years? Where is the outrage over a former Cuse player heading up the police department telling an accuser and victim to "[expletive] off"? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE I ASK?!1

 

It must be hard work hoisting Joe up on to that cross. Bernie Fine is a scumbag to be sure, but what happened with Sandusky and PSU was on a much bigger scale.

 

No one is saying all of what happened is Joe's fault, but he has some culpability. People are just butthurt because the reputation of the saint of State College has been damaged (rightfully so).

[EhDubya]

I get that Zero, but its hard for me to accept the character assassination of Paterno in all of this, and I won't get into it cause I know people don't care, but Im confident that when all the facts come out, Paterno will look much better (or at least, less worse) in people's eyes.

 

Still, absolutely no one here gave enough of a crap about Bernie Fine and the mess in Syracuse to mention, which I find strange. I guess because the scale is different, its OK that Boeheim called a victim of child sex abuse a "liar out for money". Its not a big deal that ESPN knew a current coach molested boys, yet did nothing about it (and when they had the chance, they killed Paterno for doing more than they actually did)... Ahhhh, forget it, I know its a losing battle. Its all very, very sad and I'll leave it at that.

[jersey cubs fan]

I get that Zero, but its hard for me to accept the character assassination of Paterno in all of this,

 

It's character suicide. He brought it on himself with the way he handled the situation.

[Sammy Sofa]

Fitting avatar.

[EhDubya]

I get that Zero, but its hard for me to accept the character assassination of Paterno in all of this,

 

It's character suicide. He brought it on himself with the way he handled the situation.

 

I'll drop the Paterno thing. I just think its unfortunate that he's the face of this scandal eventhough he didn't commit any crimes or witness any crimes. He's near the bottom of "people I blame" in this grand scheme of things. But whatever...

 

My original thought remains; Why does no one here seem to care enough about the Bernie Fine situation to mention? Its a pretty big news story in its own right, but not a single comment about it. Just seems odd to me.

Edited December 1, 2011 by EhDubya

[bcl412]

I get that Zero, but its hard for me to accept the character assassination of Paterno in all of this,

 

It's character suicide. He brought it on himself with the way he handled the situation.

 

Whatever. I'll drop the Paterno thing. I just think its unfortunate that he's the face of this scandal eventhough he didn't commit any crimes or witness any crimes. He's near the bottom of "people I blame" in this grand scheme of things. But whatever...

 

My original thought remains; Why does no one here seem to care enough about the Bernie Fine situation to mention? Its a pretty big news story in its own right, but not a single comment about it. Just seems odd to me.

 

Lack of desire to talk about child molestation scandals after so long I assume. It's not exactly a fun topic of conversation. Interest in this thread has died down too despite new things being brought to attention.

[jersey cubs fan]

I get that Zero, but its hard for me to accept the character assassination of Paterno in all of this,

 

It's character suicide. He brought it on himself with the way he handled the situation.

 

Whatever. I'll drop the Paterno thing. I just think its unfortunate that he's the face of this scandal eventhough he didn't commit any crimes or witness any crimes. He's near the bottom of "people I blame" in this grand scheme of things. But whatever...

 

My original thought remains; Why does no one here seem to care enough about the Bernie Fine situation to mention? Its a pretty big news story in its own right, but not a single comment about it. Just seems odd to me.

 

Lack of desire to talk about child molestation scandals after so long I assume. It's not exactly a fun topic of conversation. Interest in this thread has died down too despite new things being brought to attention.

 

There's also a lack of people making ridiculous defenses for the people involved. The Paterno discussion didn't take off until A) everybody realized the point that there were witnesses to child rape and that Paterno and administrators knew that, and B) some people started going crazy in defense of Paterno.

 

The Syracuse scandal seems smaller in scope, and there isn't indication that Boeheim knew he had a coach banging kids. Although I guess that could change.

[EhDubya]

 

There's also a lack of people making ridiculous defenses for the people involved. The Paterno discussion didn't take off until A) everybody realized the point that there were witnesses to child rape and that Paterno and administrators knew that, and B) some people started going crazy in defense of Paterno.

 

The Syracuse scandal seems smaller in scope, and there isn't indication that Boeheim knew he had a coach banging kids. Although I guess that could change.

 

My issue is what you just posted is inaccurate. I could ask how, after Paterno testified to the Grand Jury that he "was never told by McQueary of a child being raped", and that the Attorney General still called him a credible witness after that statement, and McQueary (another credible witness per the AG) claims he spared Paterno the messy details, you still maintain that he "knew" that a child was raped? But I won't, because you already have him convicted. Again, I'm not here defending every action or inaction of Paterno, just that the hate towards him is overblown and the focus should be on the ones actually charged with crimes.

 

And because something is "smaller in scope" isn't not worthy of discussion? Seems to me like Bobby Davis has established credibility, and he claims that Boeheim witnessed him as a young boy in Fine's hotel bed.. Boeheim called a victim of sex abuse a "liar out for money".. ESPN sat on a tape for 8 years of Fine's wife admitting to knowing about her husband molesting children, while Fine was still working for Syracuse and in daily contact with other ball boys.. The head of Syracuse police, a former Boeheim/Fine player, dismissed a complaint against Fine without a thought..

 

Seems like the scope is big enough to talk about to me. I mean, at least mentioned once in the 2 weeks its been a story. :-k

[Sammy Sofa]

Seems like a pretty hollow complaint when this thread has had barely any posts in it for over a week until your tirade.

[Sammy Sofa]

Plus nobody is stopping you from starting a "Syracuse Loves Kid Touchers" thread or whatever, so have at it.

[jersey cubs fan]

My issue is what you just posted is inaccurate. I could ask how, after Paterno testified to the Grand Jury that he "was never told by McQueary of a child being raped",

 

See the note about idioitic defenses of Paterno.

 

 

Seems like the scope is big enough to talk about to me. I mean, at least mentioned once in the 2 weeks its been a story. :-k

 

For what it's worth, it was mentioned prior to your little hissy fit.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

When Sandusky wasn't coaching, eating or sleeping, he was molesting.

Pretty much.

[Tracer Bullet]

It's odd that you complain about a lack of attention to Syracuse when you had ample opportunity to start a thread about it and didn't. Instead you use the lack of discussion about it to question the interest in Paterno. I'm not sure you're really upset about the lack of attention for Syracuse, you just want to defend Paterno.

 

Re paterno v sandusky, you don't get to decide who should be the topic of discussion, regardless of who has been formally charged with what. It seems the coach with 800 wins losing his job due to a huge scandal is worthy of discussion.

[Magnetic Curses]

Again, I'm not here defending every action or inaction of Paterno

 

what would you say you're doing here, then?

[javy knows my name]

I don't know, guys. Now that we have a Boeheim thread, he's had an awful lot to say about him.

[Derwood]

PSU donating all bowl revenues to sexual abuse charities

[Sammy Sofa]

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