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They probably get an offer, say they have to discuss internally and give a counter, which is met by the same response. There's no deadline and it sounds like TR is as tough a negotiator as psycho Larry, so both sides are probably dragging their feet. It'd be nice for us to have this done, but Pujols isn't going to signed the day after the world series, so we're not losing anything. And Buster is right that Theo is already planning [expletive] for the Cubs.

 

how much do you think these offers vary from one to the next? everyone keeps saying that the red sox want mcnutt and the cubs won't budge. do the red sox just fax pictures of mcnutt to the cubs all day and then the cubs send back pictures of their middle fingers?

 

(i might not have taken negotiation theory, can you tell)

 

Fax? Is it 1999 again? They're exchanging jib jabs, I'm sure.

 

I didn't take negotiation theory either, but it's what I did almost all day for 6 years. It's hard to say if the offers are different if the report about guys Theo can bring is accurate. It may be a lot of gamesmanship.

 

The cubs may be out talking to other teams about FO types that they'll be bringing in, esp if Theo isn't going to be the GM. I'm sure TR knows Theo's wish list for GM candidates.

 

i just really like the image of of ricketts and kenney and bush sitting around staring at a fax machine all day, hoping for a reasonable offer to pop out, only to see another picture of trey. i bet after like the third one randy wanted to scan his d and send that back, but tom wouldn't let him.

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Okay, I decided to listen to the Gammons thing. I disagree with him, but to be clear, on the whole 25th best prospect thing in the Red Sox system, he's only speaking in reference to Trey McNutt. I completely think that's ludicrous (the Red Sox system isn't all that good right now at the top ... ), but if he had been suggesting Brett Jackson was 25th ... that would've been more ridiculous.

 

 

That's (slightly) worse than saying a top 5 guy in our system is top 25 in the Red Sox system, since McNutt is better than our 5th best prospect.

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Peter Gammons is on WEEI right now. He said that everyone knows that the Cubs have a bottom 3 farm system and the fear of giving up the next Billy Williams is 'absurd.' A top 5 Cubs prospect would slot in at about 25 in the Boston system. He also said that the tedious process is because the people negotiating for the Cubs have no idea who any of their prospects are or what they're worth.

 

That's the kind of hard-hitting analysis Boston is hearing.

 

Are you sure that's what he said? Any chance you are exaggerating a bit, because that is idiotic and not something I would assume Gammons would say.

 

It's about the Red Sox. Gammons fanboyism knows no bounds when it comes to them and his pal Larry.

 

 

This and the fact that Gammons was always a clown and then got a respite for having a stroke or something.

 

 

I remember Gammons as one of the first journalists I LOLed at consistently 10-15 years ago.

 

Gammons was always way off when it came to talking about imminent trades that never materialized, but he was always up on things like prospects and their worth long before anybody else in mainstream baseball media acknowledged that prospects had value. He's clearly a Red Sox homer in that he would focus on them and probably sympathize with their side of a situation, but him making such asinine statements as this indicates his brain suffered some sort of damage, or he just pores on the idiotic homer schtick more when talking to local Boston radio.

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Okay, I decided to listen to the Gammons thing. I disagree with him, but to be clear, on the whole 25th best prospect thing in the Red Sox system, he's only speaking in reference to Trey McNutt. I completely think that's ludicrous (the Red Sox system isn't all that good right now at the top ... ), but if he had been suggesting Brett Jackson was 25th ... that would've been more ridiculous.

 

 

That's (slightly) worse than saying a top 5 guy in our system is top 25 in the Red Sox system, since McNutt is better than our 5th best prospect.

 

I think Gammons is way off here. Even if you want to give SNTS credit to say, a Matt Barnes, McNutt isn't that far behind him while arguably having a higher ceiling.

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They probably get an offer, say they have to discuss internally and give a counter, which is met by the same response. There's no deadline and it sounds like TR is as tough a negotiator as psycho Larry, so both sides are probably dragging their feet. It'd be nice for us to have this done, but Pujols isn't going to signed the day after the world series, so we're not losing anything. And Buster is right that Theo is already planning [expletive] for the Cubs.

 

how much do you think these offers vary from one to the next? everyone keeps saying that the red sox want mcnutt and the cubs won't budge. do the red sox just fax pictures of mcnutt to the cubs all day and then the cubs send back pictures of their middle fingers?

 

(i might not have taken negotiation theory, can you tell)

 

Fax? Is it 1999 again? They're exchanging jib jabs, I'm sure.

 

I didn't take negotiation theory either, but it's what I did almost all day for 6 years. It's hard to say if the offers are different if the report about guys Theo can bring is accurate. It may be a lot of gamesmanship.

 

The cubs may be out talking to other teams about FO types that they'll be bringing in, esp if Theo isn't going to be the GM. I'm sure TR knows Theo's wish list for GM candidates.

 

i just really like the image of of ricketts and kenney and bush sitting around staring at a fax machine all day, hoping for a reasonable offer to pop out, only to see another picture of trey. i bet after like the third one randy wanted to scan his d and send that back, but tom wouldn't let him.

 

Luccino: http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Trey+McNutt+Chicago+Cubs+Photo+Day+C36qwmPPmE5l.jpg

 

Ricketts: no.

 

Luccino: http://rebelbrass.com/pub/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/7a983_3ZI9_Smokies_pitcher_Trey_McNutt_Cubs_2_prospect.jpg

 

Ricketts: no.

 

Luccino: http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2011/10/07/ym4dseQm.jpg

 

Ricketts: no.

 

Luccino: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/2011/08/13/Nuc7sGUG.jpg

 

Ricketts: no.

 

Luccino: http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/93bd1e40ad2a1e9791198568dd0319f1/m.jpg

 

Ricketts: seriously?!?

 

Luccino: http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mAz21qP9FhKvAb0oBR88xaA/140.jpg

 

Ricketts: stop.

 

Luccino: http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/672/assets/EFN0_trey_mcnutt_for_web.jpg

 

Ricketts: OK, fine.

 

Luccino: really?

 

Ricketts: no.

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http://allgrownsup.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/gammons.jpg

 

http://www.southernct.edu/development/httpRoot/uploads/news/wysiwyg/images/11415/gammons_peter.JPG

 

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Peter Gammons is on WEEI right now. He said that everyone knows that the Cubs have a bottom 3 farm system and the fear of giving up the next Billy Williams is 'absurd.' A top 5 Cubs prospect would slot in at about 25 in the Boston system. He also said that the tedious process is because the people negotiating for the Cubs have no idea who any of their prospects are or what they're worth.

 

That's the kind of hard-hitting analysis Boston is hearing.

 

Are you sure that's what he said? Any chance you are exaggerating a bit, because that is idiotic and not something I would assume Gammons would say.

 

It's about the Red Sox. Gammons fanboyism knows no bounds when it comes to them and his pal Larry.

 

 

This and the fact that Gammons was always a clown and then got a respite for having a stroke or something.

 

 

I remember Gammons as one of the first journalists I LOLed at consistently 10-15 years ago.

 

Gammons was always way off when it came to talking about imminent trades that never materialized, but he was always up on things like prospects and their worth long before anybody else in mainstream baseball media acknowledged that prospects had value. He's clearly a Red Sox homer in that he would focus on them and probably sympathize with their side of a situation, but him making such asinine statements as this indicates his brain suffered some sort of damage, or he just pores on the idiotic homer schtick more when talking to local Boston radio.

He kind of reminds me of Sam Smith, where's he's basically a mouthpiece for the Red Sox organization masked as a journalist covering the sport. Wouldn't surprise me if, like Smith, he just ends up writing for the Red Sox website.

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They probably get an offer, say they have to discuss internally and give a counter, which is met by the same response. There's no deadline and it sounds like TR is as tough a negotiator as psycho Larry, so both sides are probably dragging their feet. It'd be nice for us to have this done, but Pujols isn't going to signed the day after the world series, so we're not losing anything. And Buster is right that Theo is already planning [expletive] for the Cubs.

 

how much do you think these offers vary from one to the next? everyone keeps saying that the red sox want mcnutt and the cubs won't budge. do the red sox just fax pictures of mcnutt to the cubs all day and then the cubs send back pictures of their middle fingers?

 

(i might not have taken negotiation theory, can you tell)

 

Fax? Is it 1999 again? They're exchanging jib jabs, I'm sure.

 

I didn't take negotiation theory either, but it's what I did almost all day for 6 years. It's hard to say if the offers are different if the report about guys Theo can bring is accurate. It may be a lot of gamesmanship.

 

The cubs may be out talking to other teams about FO types that they'll be bringing in, esp if Theo isn't going to be the GM. I'm sure TR knows Theo's wish list for GM candidates.

 

i just really like the image of of ricketts and kenney and bush sitting around staring at a fax machine all day, hoping for a reasonable offer to pop out, only to see another picture of trey. i bet after like the third one randy wanted to scan his d and send that back, but tom wouldn't let him.

 

Fax Machines? What the hell is that?

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Done today Gammons???

 

I think I can take his word for it.

 

 

Huh?

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Done today Gammons???

 

I think I can take his word for it.

 

 

Huh?

 

 

In that little interview he said he thinks it gets done today.

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Okay, I decided to listen to the Gammons thing. I disagree with him, but to be clear, on the whole 25th best prospect thing in the Red Sox system, he's only speaking in reference to Trey McNutt. I completely think that's ludicrous (the Red Sox system isn't all that good right now at the top ... ), but if he had been suggesting Brett Jackson was 25th ... that would've been more ridiculous.

 

[expletive], I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant the Cubs 5th best available prospect(i.e. not Baez) = 25 in the Red Sox system McNutt? Hilarious.

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Done today Gammons???

 

I think I can take his word for it.

 

 

Huh?

 

 

In that little interview he said he thinks it gets done today.

 

 

dat [expletive] cray

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