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jurko was saying that the best thing the bears can do to donkeykong is cut him on every play. and that's coming from a former interior d-lineman.

 

Well, as long as he isn't already engaged by another guy......legal block. And if it isn't done right, you just put a lineman on the ground and will probably get raped.

 

So it's not 100% either. That's why teams don't just cut everyone on every play. There's some risk involved with that strategy.

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jurko was saying that the best thing the bears can do to donkeykong is cut him on every play. and that's coming from a former interior d-lineman.

 

Well, as long as he isn't already engaged by another guy......legal block. And if it isn't done right, you just put a lineman on the ground and will probably get raped.

 

So it's not 100% either. That's why teams don't just cut everyone on every play. There's some risk involved with that strategy.

 

well, of course. i think his argument here is that the risk is justified.

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jurko was saying that the best thing the bears can do to donkeykong is cut him on every play. and that's coming from a former interior d-lineman.

 

Well, as long as he isn't already engaged by another guy......legal block. And if it isn't done right, you just put a lineman on the ground and will probably get raped.

 

So it's not 100% either. That's why teams don't just cut everyone on every play. There's some risk involved with that strategy.

 

well, of course. i think his argument here is that the risk is justified.

 

Debateable, but it's a worthy argument.

 

I also think there's value to keeping a guy on his feet to (hopefully) make that secondary block if things break down.

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What the what. This line is down to 5 now. From 7 to 5, somebody is putting lots of money on the Bears.

 

Probably has something to do with the string of wins in a row and the setup for a potential letdown. I hope that happens, but Calvin Johnson stands in the way.

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What the what. This line is down to 5 now. From 7 to 5, somebody is putting lots of money on the Bears.

 

Probably has something to do with the string of wins in a row and the setup for a potential letdown. I hope that happens, but Calvin Johnson stands in the way.

 

My cbssports poll says the public is picking Detroit 51% to 49% at a 6.5 point spread. The fact that the masses seem to at least slightly favor Detroit at the wider margin suggests the actual big money guys have hit on the Bears.

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The Bears are gonna shut down Calvin Johnson and win this one. Stafford will be too confused on who to throw jump balls too and Peppers will finish him off.
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I checked out all the picks on ESPN, Yahoo, CBS Sports and SI.com and out of the 20 people that made picks, 18 picked the Lions and 2 picked the Bears. Thank you for your confidence in the team Seth Wickersham of ESPN.com and Jason Cole of CBSsports.com.
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Wootton broke his hand in practice on Thursday.

 

I've had high hopes for this guy if he can ever manage to get healthy. A broken hand shouldn't hold a DE out though, so whenever he gets 100% from his leg injury I guess we'll see if he's able to provide a spark to the pass rush.

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Well, FWIW, here's my analysis/keys to this game. Had a little time on my hands and figured I would take a look at the Bears chances tomorrow night.

 

1. Mix it up with Forte. In 6 games vs. Detroit, Forte has had "good" games on the ground 4 times (3 x over 100 yards, 1 other time with 5 ypc). Last year in the opener, Bears could not run with Forte, but he ate the Lions alive in the passing game. Even you take out the 89 yard screen, Forte still caught 6 for 62 in that game. The Lions refused to let Forte beat them in the air the 2nd game last year, but still the Bears were able to get the ball to Matt twice for 20 and 16 yards respectively. This year, the Lions have allowed 8 catches to Earnest Graham, 4 catches to Adrian Peterson who doesn't catch a lot of balls, and 7 catches to the Cowboys duo of Tashard Choice and Felix Jones. So, even if the Lions focus on trying to not let Forte beat them, I think the Bears can pick their spots and get him the ball vs. a LB for a couple big gainers.

 

2. The run will be there. Kinda goes with #1, but Detroit hasn't done particularly well vs. the run. Sure the stats look OK because Tampa couldn't run in the opener and then got behind and threw the ball the 2nd half. And KC lost Jamal Charles early and again threw the ball a lot after getting down big. And then Dallas refused to run the ball last week up 27-3. But the run will be there. KVB and Suh are great pass rushers, but they don't really get the ball carrier on their way to the QB. Suh can be caught with trap blocking, which the Bears love to do with their guards. VandenBosch has been overly aggressive this year and has allowed plays to be run inside of him and wide of him. He has been very susceptible to misdirections and reverses. Forte got only 26 of his yards between the tackles last week. If the Bears can successfully get Suh and the DEs up the field, Forte loves to make 1 big cut to the outside, and there should be big yardage available as the backside OGs for the Bears has been great at getting to the 2nd level this year.

 

3. Test their DBs, get everyone involved. Again, the overall numbers look decent, but this is still the same Lions secondary that got abused last year. The Lions have actually allowed QBs to complete 67% of their passes (slightly more than the Bears DBs). Granted, the Bears don't have Kellen Winslow or Jason Witten, but the Lions have allowed 25 catches for 249 yards to opposing TEs this year. Chris Houston, despite 3 INTs, can still be picked on outside. I'd like to see the Bears get their big TEs involved in the offense and take more shots down the sidelines vs. Houston.

 

4. Keep them 1-dimensional. The Lions are one of the worst running teams in the league. Can't let them get it going tomorrow. The Lions have only given up 5 sacks, but Stafford has been hit 20 times. Their OL really isn't that good. Peterman at guard is a liability. Peppers has owned Jeff Backus in their careers, with 4 sacks against him in 3 games, including knocking Stafford out of last year's game.

 

5. Fast start. Both are these teams are teams that have started slow so far this season. Lions have started slow on offense the last 2 weeks. The Bears have started slow on defense the last 3 weeks, allowing early TD drives. With the Bears ability to run the ball (hopefully) and willingness (hopefully) to run, Detroit can't afford to get behind the Bears by 20 and expect to come back. Likewise, the Bears don't have the offense to go back and forth with the Lions and can't have the Lions DL pinning their ears back with the Bears in obvious passing situations. I'd like to see the offense put up a TD early, and the defense and special teams put the offense in good position.

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