Cubs team sources: Likely Sandberg reconciliation

[Hollandsworths mug]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

[CubColtPacer]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

 

It would help if they verbalized a good managerial philosophy. Sandberg has done the opposite which is a big reason many on the board don't want him.

 

And what does Sandberg have that Quade didn't? Is the Hall of Fame career it? Do you think there is anything else Sandberg has that Quade doesn't?

[Guest]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

 

Did Mike Quade not pay his dues? What made you so sure he wasn't qualified while thinking Sandberg is?

[Guest]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

 

It would help if they verbalized a good managerial philosophy. Sandberg has done the opposite which is a big reason many on the board don't want him.

 

And what does Sandberg have that Quade didn't? Is the Hall of Fame career it? Do you think there is anything else Sandberg has that Quade doesn't?

its called buy into what the manager is selling.

 

Sandberg sell, finish the job pitching, hitting and running, and moving the runner over. Hopefully the next GM won't buy, if in fact Quade gets canned.

[Hollandsworths mug]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

 

It would help if they verbalized a good managerial philosophy. Sandberg has done the opposite which is a big reason many on the board don't want him.

 

And what does Sandberg have that Quade didn't? Is the Hall of Fame career it? Do you think there is anything else Sandberg has that Quade doesn't?

 

 

The fact is Mike Quade was given the job based on a very meaningless September record when the Cubs were playing out the string. I think Sandberg also understands the expectations here and understands the microscope. Now, before you say so did past managers, they (Dusty and Lou off the top of my head) actually were quoted as saying they really had no idea it was THAT crazy here.

 

Sandberg also teaches the game very well. He gets players to "buy in' to what he is teaching. Bottom line is the players respect him, the fans respect him and he really has done all he can do to earn his shot.

[SouthSideRyan]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

That's 430% of the reason!

[Guest]

When Sandberg played in Chicago, the expectations for the Cubs were basically nothing. There was no microscope. There wasn't even a magnifying glass.

 

 

Not that I think the point is all that relevant or important to begin with.

[SouthSideRyan]

Ryne Sandberg retired midway through the 1994 strike-shortened season.

 

The Cubs record up until his final game: 22-36

The Cubs record post-retirement: 27-28

 

Sandberg would stay retired through 1995 and the Cubs would put up a 73-71 record, competing for the wild card up until the final days of the season.

 

Sandberg would return for the 1996 and 1997 seasons and the Cubs would fall to 76-86 and 68-94 records respectively. He would then retire for good.

 

In 1998, a Sandberg-less Cubs team would go 90-73 and go to the playoffs for the first time since 1989.

 

Big Stage indeed.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The fact is Mike Quade was given the job based on a very meaningless September record when the Cubs were playing out the string.

Do you know anything about what Mike Quade did prior to September 2010?

[SouthSideRyan]

The fact is Mike Quade was given the job based on a very meaningless September record when the Cubs were playing out the string.

Do you know anything about what Mike Quade did prior to September 2010?

 

How did he perform in the hotbox?

[Guest]

Ryne Sandberg retired midway through the 1994 strike-shortened season.

 

The Cubs record up until his final game: 22-36

The Cubs record post-retirement: 27-28

 

Sandberg would stay retired through 1995 and the Cubs would put up a 73-71 record, competing for the wild card up until the final days of the season.

 

Sandberg would return for the 1996 and 1997 seasons and the Cubs would fall to 76-86 and 68-94 records respectively. He would then retire for good.

 

In 1998, a Sandberg-less Cubs team would go 90-73 and go to the playoffs for the first time since 1989.

 

Big Stage indeed.

 

 

That 95 season is when I fell in love with baseball. Not even kidding. I was 12 and I was [expletive] heart broken when we missed out on the wild card.

 

Then I spent the next two months praying we'd sign Albert Belle.

[SouthSideRyan]

That season definitely took my fandom to the next level. I went late to every football practice that last week of the season waiting for the games to end. IIRC, we were pretty much out and needed the Rockies to keep losing while we kept winning and it kept happening. It was awesome.

[jersey cubs fan]

Sandberg also teaches the game very well. He gets players to "buy in' to what he is teaching. Bottom line is the players respect him, the fans respect him and he really has done all he can do to earn his shot.

 

If this is true then why were all those players that went through his teams still fundamentally flawed players when they arrived?

 

 

The fact that Mike Quade probably never should have been Cubs manager is absolutely meaningless when trying to justify giving Sandberg the gig.

[Guest]

That season definitely took my fandom to the next level. I went late to every football practice that last week of the season waiting for the games to end. IIRC, we were pretty much out and needed the Rockies to keep losing while we kept winning and it kept happening. It was awesome.

 

Yep. I had tickets to the last game and the day before I made a sign that said "GO GIANTS!"

 

But then we blew the game before against Houston and it was over. :bye:

 

 

 

Remember when Frank Castillo took a no-no into the 9th with 2 outs and gave up a triple to either Lankford or Gilkey?

 

 

They kept showing his hot wife in the stands, Woody style, IIRC.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh man, Castillo's wife was smoking. I completely forgot about her.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Remember when Frank Castillo took a no-no into the 9th with 2 outs and gave up a triple to either Lankford or Gilkey?

Gilkey

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199509250.shtml

[SouthSideRyan]

Remember when Frank Castillo took a no-no into the 9th with 2 outs and gave up a triple to either Lankford or Gilkey?

Gilkey

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199509250.shtml

 

The point of the story was that Castillo had a hot wife. Figured you of all people would understand that. Make with the pics.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm trying, but Google is not cooperating.

[questionmarkgrace]

The cliches this guy tosses at the end of every other post makes me like 150% sure that he's just a troll.

 

And you're 200% wrong. So, because I think Ryno should be manager and you don't makes me a troll? Well done.

 

No. Because you keep saying things like "He's paid his dues" and "It's called buying what the manager is selling."

 

Not to mention citing his hall of fame career as a reason he is qualified to be a manager.

 

So how do managers ever get their chance in your world? Minor league manager, former player? Not named Ryne Sandberg?

 

Did Mike Quade not pay his dues? What made you so sure he wasn't qualified while thinking Sandberg is?

 

 

I think quade has proved to no longer be qualified and thats the point.

 

THe thing with sandberg though is that yes he may have illustrated a teaching moment in the minors but that doesnt mean he would do something like that in the majors. Teaching kids how to play is primary in the minors. While it certainly comes into play in the majors it is not the focus of a managers job. And my comment earlier about how bad many cubs players have looked doesnt come as a slight on Sandberg at all. I was speaking mainly to the highly talented and poorly prepared likes of Pie and Patterson players emblematic of poor player develpment from years past. If anything the guys we have seen come through the system the last two or so years have been much more prepared to play and discerning of what is required of them. maybe thats Wilken drafting better players or maybe its development but its probably at bit of both. Barney in particular said he benefitted quite a bit from sandberg and while he may be a minor cog in the grand scheme of things it is nice to see someone know their role. Unfortunately, Quade did not know what role barney should be in.

[questionmarkgrace]

If this is true then why were all those players that went through his teams still fundamentally flawed players when they arrived?

 

Who are you talking about Colvin? I think you need to go back and look at who played on his teams. Quite a few of those players have graduated to become major leaguers. More than I can remember coming up from the cubs system in a long while.

[Mark Priors Calves]

So...I'm going to root for the Phillies to lose ASAP and Charlie Manual gets fired and then he gets replaced by Sandberg.

[jersey cubs fan]

If this is true then why were all those players that went through his teams still fundamentally flawed players when they arrived?

 

Who are you talking about Colvin? I think you need to go back and look at who played on his teams. Quite a few of those players have graduated to become major leaguers. More than I can remember coming up from the cubs system in a long while.

 

I think you need to try and reconcile the notion that Sandberg has supposedly taught a whole bunch of kids how to play the game the right way yet the Cubs are full of fundamentally flawed players.

[SouthSideRyan]

while he may be a minor cog in the grand scheme of things it is nice to see someone know their role. Unfortunately, Quade did not know what role barney should be in.

 

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[Guest]

I think quade has proved to no longer be qualified and thats the point.

 

 

The point was that he said that Sandberg has paid his dues and deserves a shot as a result, yet he supposedly was certain Quade was a mistake of a hire when it was made.

[Hollandsworths mug]

I think quade has proved to no longer be qualified and thats the point.

 

 

The point was that he said that Sandberg has paid his dues and deserves a shot as a result, yet he supposedly was certain Quade was a mistake of a hire when it was made.

 

Who do you want to see manage?