Bears game 2: Sunday, Sep 18 @ NO, noon on Fox

[minnesotacubsfan]

so, chances of Carimi being out next week, 80% or 99%?

 

fuuuuuuuck

[imb]

quote after me

 

dear bill barnwell, im sorry

[cubbyvirus00]

With no Carimi, we're playing for draft position. I wonder what the Bears take in the first round.

[sneakypower]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

[minnesotacubsfan]

With no Carimi, we're playing for draft position. I wonder what the Bears take in the first round.

 

a kick returner. i mean since Hester has clearly failed and the league is getting tougher on returns, we HAVE to invest in more talent there. That or a 2nd tier safety who can play special teams.

[SouthSideRyan]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

And the Lions were a 6 win team last year.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

beating the Bucs was a good game for them, but the Vikings almost beat them. Its not like the Bus are NE.

 

The Chiefs are laughable. The Bills destroyed them for crying out loud.

 

The lions are good this year, but they aren't world beaters.

[Formerly Snayke]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

At what point over the last two weeks have you looked at the Chiefs and thought "yup, that's a 10-win team in 2011"???

[rawaction]

Seriously, look at the damn stats. 5th in yards in offense (which will go up today). 12th in yards allowed defensively, which will go up today. No team will be ranked higher in both after this week.

 

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

 

First of all, I said "Look like". I know damn well they aren't the best team, as does anyone with half a brain. Secondly, one team they faced won 10 games last year, the other was a playoff team from last year. Both are young teams that brought back 100% of their nucleus. If you read my posts in this thread (or any time in my 8 years on this board), you would know that I'm one of the people that knows how to keep things in perspective in a board full of "cut him", "fire him", "he sucks", "season over". So, I think I should get the benefit of the doubt that I'm not just spouting BS out of anger. Before I said that, I knew I had statistics behind my point.

[Formerly Snayke]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

beating the Bucs was a good game for them, but the Vikings almost beat them. Its not like the Bus are NE.

 

The Chiefs are laughable. The Bills destroyed them for crying out loud.

 

The lions are good this year, but they aren't world beaters.

 

I think Buffalo beating the Raiders, who 14 games nine years ago, is a positive step forward for their franchise.

[sneakypower]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

At what point over the last two weeks have you looked at the Chiefs and thought "yup, that's a 10-win team in 2011"???

it's just a questionable conclusion to reach: "the Lions are thoroughly dismantling the Chiefs in epic fashion, doubtful any of that is due to the Lions own abilities..."

[minnesotacubsfan]

it might be, but it doesnt indicate the Chiefs are some kind of juggernaut.

 

(to snayke's comment)

[Formerly Snayke]

Seriously, look at the damn stats. 5th in yards in offense (which will go up today). 12th in yards allowed defensively, which will go up today. No team will be ranked higher in both after this week.

 

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

 

First of all, I said "Look like". I know damn well they aren't the best team, as does anyone with half a brain. Secondly, one team they faced won 10 games last year, the other was a playoff team from last year. Both are young teams that brought back 100% of their nucleus. If you read my posts in this thread (or any time in my 8 years on this board), you would know that I'm one of the people that knows how to keep things in perspective in a board full of "cut him", "fire him", "he sucks", "season over". So, I think I should get the benefit of the doubt that I'm not just spouting BS out of anger. Before I said that, I knew I had statistics behind my point.

 

I don't think you're spouting BS at all. I just don't think wins over Tampa and KC should be a sign of anything other than they are very much improved and probably an 8 or 9 win team.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

two ten-win teams last year

 

At what point over the last two weeks have you looked at the Chiefs and thought "yup, that's a 10-win team in 2011"???

it's just a questionable conclusion to reach: "the Lions are thoroughly dismantling the Chiefs in epic fashion, doubtful any of that is due to the Lions own abilities..."

 

the only "epic" fashion here is how "epic-ly bad" the chiefs really are. they might just tie the Lions 0-16 record.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd guess the Lions are a 8-10 win team this year, but I dont think they are elite enough to go head-to-head with GB, NE, AT, possibly NO. They might might be the Bears closest match.

[rawaction]

With no Carimi, we're playing for draft position. I wonder what the Bears take in the first round.

 

a kick returner. i mean since Hester has clearly failed and the league is getting tougher on returns, we HAVE to invest in more talent there. That or a 2nd tier safety who can play special teams.

 

Facetious, but probably 1/2 true. The Bears are probably not going to take OL in the 1st. Carimi and Webb will get another year at OT, unless they are completely terrible. And the Bears probably don't think interior OL is a first round worthy pick (considering they've never picked an C or G in the 1st). I'd like them to go for Mike Brewster to play C for the next 10 years, but if they don't, it has to be a WR. This draft is loaded at WR.

 

FWIW, I still think this team picks between 18-25. They are not as bad as today. They can be as good as Week 1.

[rawaction]

Seriously, look at the damn stats. 5th in yards in offense (which will go up today). 12th in yards allowed defensively, which will go up today. No team will be ranked higher in both after this week.

 

Still, it was against the Bucs and the Chiefs. One is a middle-of-the-road team and the other is vying to be the worst in the league this season. They are not the best team in the NFC North, let alone the NFL.

 

First of all, I said "Look like". I know damn well they aren't the best team, as does anyone with half a brain. Secondly, one team they faced won 10 games last year, the other was a playoff team from last year. Both are young teams that brought back 100% of their nucleus. If you read my posts in this thread (or any time in my 8 years on this board), you would know that I'm one of the people that knows how to keep things in perspective in a board full of "cut him", "fire him", "he sucks", "season over". So, I think I should get the benefit of the doubt that I'm not just spouting BS out of anger. Before I said that, I knew I had statistics behind my point.

 

I don't think you're spouting BS at all. I just don't think wins over Tampa and KC should be a sign of anything other than they are very much improved and probably an 8 or 9 win team.

 

And that's why I said they look like the best team instead of definitively saying they are the best team.

[minnesotacubsfan]

With no Carimi, we're playing for draft position. I wonder what the Bears take in the first round.

 

a kick returner. i mean since Hester has clearly failed and the league is getting tougher on returns, we HAVE to invest in more talent there. That or a 2nd tier safety who can play special teams.

 

Facetious, but probably 1/2 true. The Bears are probably not going to take OL in the 1st. Carimi and Webb will get another year at OT, unless they are completely terrible. And the Bears probably don't think interior OL is a first round worthy pick (considering they've never picked an C or G in the 1st). I'd like them to go for Mike Brewster to play C for the next 10 years, but if they don't, it has to be a WR. This draft is loaded at WR.

 

FWIW, I still think this team picks between 18-25. They are not as bad as today. They can be as good as Week 1.

 

facetious? it makes about as much sense as any drafting strategy Angelo has EVER had. and although I was completely joking around, I really fear this type of draft by Angelo.

[kujay]

With no Carimi, we're playing for draft position. I wonder what the Bears take in the first round.

 

a kick returner. i mean since Hester has clearly failed and the league is getting tougher on returns, we HAVE to invest in more talent there. That or a 2nd tier safety who can play special teams.

 

Facetious, but probably 1/2 true. The Bears are probably not going to take OL in the 1st. Carimi and Webb will get another year at OT, unless they are completely terrible. And the Bears probably don't think interior OL is a first round worthy pick (considering they've never picked an C or G in the 1st). I'd like them to go for Mike Brewster to play C for the next 10 years, but if they don't, it has to be a WR. This draft is loaded at WR.

 

FWIW, I still think this team picks between 18-25. They are not as bad as today. They can be as good as Week 1.

 

facetious? it makes about as much sense as any drafting strategy Angelo has EVER had. and although I was completely joking around, I really fear this type of draft by Angelo.

 

He could do that, if only we had some cap space to sign a decent WR and a few OL.

 

But alas...

[minnesotacubsfan]

He could do that, if only we had some cap space to sign a decent WR and a few OL.

 

But alas...

 

BUT WE HAVE TO LET THE KIDS PLAAAAAAAAAAY or some [expletive] like that

 

I think it says a lot that the Pittsburgh tackle took less money to stay with them then to come to Chicago, and Angelos response is to simply give up on looking at ANY free angent OL's. OH WELL I TRIED.

[UMFan83]

Maybe instead of another 1st round pick used on the line, we fire Angelo and hire someone who can build a top 20 oline more than once every 6 years.

[minnesotacubsfan]

what a fuckign coward. I'm so [expletive] pissed at the management.

[UMFan83]

Whoever the Bears beat guy is on espn 1000 is saying that the aints players were taking cheap shots at bears players whenever they had a chance. Cutler got kicked in the throat during one of those moments.

 

Classy

[rawaction]

Maybe instead of another 1st round pick used on the line, we fire Angelo and hire someone who can build a top 20 oline more than once every 6 years.

 

That would be ideal.

[Guest]

Whoever the Bears beat guy is on espn 1000 is saying that the aints players were taking cheap shots at bears players whenever they had a chance. Cutler got kicked in the throat during one of those moments.

 

Classy

 

This was what caused Omiyale to go nuts and have a near fight. It was where Cutler tried to punch the guy while on the ground. Dunbar, I believe. I couldn't believe no one said anything about it on the replay on FOX.