Re: Darvish

[ctcf]

Anyone found a second official source outside of Yahoo?

 

It's been confirmed by MLB. It's the Rangers.

[Guest]

Anyone found a second official source outside of Yahoo?

 

It ran on MLB Network's scroll at the bottom of the screen. Not sure if they were citing the Yahoo report though.

[davearm2]

It's on MLB.com now too.

[98navigator]

This is beautiful

 

MONDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2011

 

The Yu Darvish Decision

UPDATE (10:35 p.m.): Announcement coming soon ... Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos will announce tonight his team has won the bid for Japanese sensation Yu Darvish, according to my industry sources.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

[ctcf]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

 

How do you expect to add pitching depth and fix 2B while keeping Garza? Edwin Jackson?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

 

Because the team as comprised is really bad and the number of pieces out there that can change that are shrinking rapidly.

 

I'm still going with 74 wins with what we have now, and that's with some awfully generous projections for guys like LaHair and Stewart. Fielder gets you to 78. A second base upgrade gets you to maybe 80. Where are the 10 wins worth of pitching depth to be had out there?

Edited December 20, 2011 by Hairyducked Idiot

[Pushfrog98]

I thought the winning bid blew all the others out of the water?

[CUBZ99]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

 

I'm starting to think that the Cubs aren't going to be in on Fielder. Even if they got Fielder, you still have zero upgrades at any other position this off season.

[Guest]

I thought the winning bid blew all the others out of the water?

 

Pretty clear that the vast majority of those reports were garbage.

[Guest]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

 

I'm starting to think that the Cubs aren't going to be in on Fielder. Even if they got Fielder, you still have zero upgrades at any other position this off season.

 

DeJesus is fairly likely to be an upgrade over whoever's spot he takes. Granted, not by much.

[Pushfrog98]

It WOULD be kind of nice to know what the Cubs bid was. I feel like it would make me feel better if they gave it a good effort, but were edged out. However, I might be a little upset if it was a low offer.

[jiml60]

Anyone else getting the Asiangirlmatch.com ad at the bottom of their page?

[Guest]

It WOULD be kind of nice to know what the Cubs bid was. I feel like it would make me feel better if they gave it a good effort, but were edged out. However, I might be a little upset if it was a low offer.

 

Yea, would be cool to find out. Just like I wouldn't mind knowing what the offer to Pujols was.

[Pushfrog98]

It WOULD be kind of nice to know what the Cubs bid was. I feel like it would make me feel better if they gave it a good effort, but were edged out. However, I might be a little upset if it was a low offer.

 

Yea, would be cool to find out. Just like I wouldn't mind knowing what the offer to Pujols was.

I can't remember who said it (and in which thread), but I really like how Theo and Co are very tight lipped about what they are planning to do, yet at the same time, it drives me nuts because I feel like I HAVE to know!

[UMFan83]

Gah....this sucks. I was holding out hope. I guess Epstein was burned by Dice K and didn't want to risk it again. Maybe his scouts saw something they didn't like that might limit his ability in the MLB.

 

On the surface, getting Darvish seems exactly what Theo and Co were preaching about when they were introduced, but so far I'm waiting for the acquisition of talent part. Not mad, not frustrated very much, still 100% faith in Theo, etc. I just want something that can make me excited for Cubs baseball next year. So far it looks like I might be tuned out the majority of the year again.

[17 Seconds]

honestly i'm not too upset with this. i just can't justify giving $125+ million to a guy who has nver thrown a pitch in the majors. there's just too much risk with that kind of money.

[Tyrant]

Anyone else getting the Asiangirlmatch.com ad at the bottom of their page?

 

Those ads use cookies to be related whatever sites you frequently visit. So...

[VVMattVV]

Anyone else getting the Asiangirlmatch.com ad at the bottom of their page?

 

Don't the ads populate based on other sites you've visited?

[Guest]

Gah....this sucks. I was holding out hope. I guess Epstein was burned by Dice K and didn't want to risk it again. Maybe his scouts saw something they didn't like that might limit his ability in the MLB.

 

On the surface, getting Darvish seems exactly what Theo and Co were preaching about when they were introduced, but so far I'm waiting for the acquisition of talent part. Not mad, not frustrated very much, still 100% faith in Theo, etc. I just want something that can make me excited for Cubs baseball next year. So far it looks like I might be tuned out the majority of the year again.

 

The fact that they didn't bid as high as the Rangers doesn't really mean he didn't want him or he felt burned...

[bukie]

Gah....this sucks. I was holding out hope. I guess Epstein was burned by Dice K and didn't want to risk it again. Maybe his scouts saw something they didn't like that might limit his ability in the MLB.

 

On the surface, getting Darvish seems exactly what Theo and Co were preaching about when they were introduced, but so far I'm waiting for the acquisition of talent part. Not mad, not frustrated very much, still 100% faith in Theo, etc. I just want something that can make me excited for Cubs baseball next year. So far it looks like I might be tuned out the majority of the year again.

This situation is different, though. A team trying for Darvish was basically on their own in determining how much of a posting fee a player was worth and offering it. If you weren't the high bid, there was no chance to increase it, and there was no way to know what other teams would bid.

[17 Seconds]

Graymatter11 Kevin Gray

Sorry. Got bad info from trusted Blue Jays sources, who are just as upset as you guys. First time I've been burned in 17 years.

 

i'm as shocked as you, kevin

[davearm2]

General question, why does no getting Darvish mean the Cubs need to throw in the towel? Keep Garza, add pitching depth, sign Fielder and find an upgrade at 2B and this team can still win this division next year and be only 1-2 pieces away from being an excellent team in 2013.

 

Because the team as comprised is really bad and the number of pieces out there that can change that are shrinking rapidly.

 

I'm still going with 74 wins with what we have now, and that's with some awfully generous projections for guys like LaHair and Stewart. Fielder gets you to 78. A second base upgrade gets you to maybe 80. Where are the 10 wins worth of pitching depth to be had out there?

Sadly, this.

 

Start @ ~70 wins.

 

Subtract Ramirez and Pena.

 

Add DeJesus and Stewart.

 

Even assuming good luck, it's hard to get above 75 with the current roster.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Gah....this sucks. I was holding out hope. I guess Epstein was burned by Dice K and didn't want to risk it again. Maybe his scouts saw something they didn't like that might limit his ability in the MLB.

 

On the surface, getting Darvish seems exactly what Theo and Co were preaching about when they were introduced, but so far I'm waiting for the acquisition of talent part. Not mad, not frustrated very much, still 100% faith in Theo, etc. I just want something that can make me excited for Cubs baseball next year. So far it looks like I might be tuned out the majority of the year again.

 

The fact that they didn't bid as high as the Rangers doesn't really mean he didn't want him or he felt burned...

 

And yet, the "Cubs are planning on giving up on 2012 and going cheap" hypothesis remains unrefuted.

 

C'mon, Theo, just a little refutation? Pretty please?

[ctcf]

Gah....this sucks. I was holding out hope. I guess Epstein was burned by Dice K and didn't want to risk it again. Maybe his scouts saw something they didn't like that might limit his ability in the MLB.

 

On the surface, getting Darvish seems exactly what Theo and Co were preaching about when they were introduced, but so far I'm waiting for the acquisition of talent part. Not mad, not frustrated very much, still 100% faith in Theo, etc. I just want something that can make me excited for Cubs baseball next year. So far it looks like I might be tuned out the majority of the year again.

 

The fact that they didn't bid as high as the Rangers doesn't really mean he didn't want him or he felt burned...

 

Exactly. At the end of the day, it's still blind bidding.

 

Cubs could just as easily turn around and put that money into something like Cespedes and Soler.