Pat Gillick

[davell]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-110716-mlb-whispers,0,4634980.story

 

Inside this story about Vogelbach being close to signing is an extremely interesting tidbit saying the Cubs will almost certainly talk to Pat Gillick about coming on board. He evidently doesn't want a GM job, but I can't see how adding him to the organization, maybe as president of baseball ops or something, could possibly be a bad thing.

[TruffleShuffle]

that would be fantastic, but it's phil rogers so it's probably wrong.

[Guest]

If Gillick is brought on board, I wonder if we'll look at Logan White as a replacement for Hendry? If we could pry him away I wouldn't mind A.J. Preller either.

[questionmarkgrace]

that would be fantastic, but it's phil rogers so it's probably wrong.

 

"The Cubs almost certainly will talk to Pat Gillick about his interest in taking on one more challenge next winter."

 

Phil Rogers = pure conjecture.

[italianocubsfan7]

Phil Rogers is bad. Really bad. I don't think he double checks any of these "rumors" he hears. Tribune needs to force Phil's retirement sooner rather than later.

[UK1679666180]

So far in this thread, Gillick has been mentioned as pres. White as GM, now mention Bogar replacing Quade and it would be ideal setup.

[Brett]

Gillick is what, 74? How long is he really going to want to oversee an organizational revamp? And, given that it will be a true revamp, from top to bottom, wouldn't the Cubs want someone who can be in the position (if successful) for 5 to 10 years, at least?

[SouthSideRyan]

Gillick is what, 74? How long is he really going to want to oversee an organizational revamp? And, given that it will be a true revamp, from top to bottom, wouldn't the Cubs want someone who can be in the position (if successful) for 5 to 10 years, at least?

 

It's going to take at least 10 years to revamp the organization?

[Brett]

Gillick is what, 74? How long is he really going to want to oversee an organizational revamp? And, given that it will be a true revamp, from top to bottom, wouldn't the Cubs want someone who can be in the position (if successful) for 5 to 10 years, at least?

 

It's going to take at least 10 years to revamp the organization?

 

I could make an obvious joke...

 

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that, because the org will be going through a revamp, you'd like to have the guy who led that revamp be in charge for an extended period of time AFTER the revamp. Otherwise, the changes/attitudinal shifts/etc. could just fall by the wayside after the guy leaves.

[SouthSideRyan]

Gillick is what, 74? How long is he really going to want to oversee an organizational revamp? And, given that it will be a true revamp, from top to bottom, wouldn't the Cubs want someone who can be in the position (if successful) for 5 to 10 years, at least?

 

It's going to take at least 10 years to revamp the organization?

 

I could make an obvious joke...

 

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that, because the org will be going through a revamp, you'd like to have the guy who led that revamp be in charge for an extended period of time AFTER the revamp. Otherwise, the changes/attitudinal shifts/etc. could just fall by the wayside after the guy leaves.

 

So you think Gillick will overhaul the entire organization, bring in his guys as GM, assistants, coaches, instructors, and players, and once he leaves they'll say, "boy we really pulled the wool over that old guy, now let's some grinders in here!"

Edited July 18, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[Sammy Sofa]

I actually agree with AceCubbie on this. I really think the Ricketts are going to want to go with someone younger than Gillick to run the Cubs' FO.

[dew1679666265]

I actually agree with AceCubbie on this. I really think the Ricketts are going to want to go with someone younger than Gillick to run the Cubs' FO.

 

I could see them going with Gillick with the idea that his assistant would be someone young who could be "mentored" by him and take over when he retires. I could see Gillick being the one in charge of overhauling thought and whatnot, retiring after 2-3 years and then his successor taking over to lead the Cubs long term.

[Sammy Sofa]

I actually agree with AceCubbie on this. I really think the Ricketts are going to want to go with someone younger than Gillick to run the Cubs' FO.

 

I could see them going with Gillick with the idea that his assistant would be someone young who could be "mentored" by him and take over when he retires. I could see Gillick being the one in charge of overhauling thought and whatnot, retiring after 2-3 years and then his successor taking over to lead the Cubs long term.

 

That's true, though I don't think that would be their first choice.

[dew1679666265]

I actually agree with AceCubbie on this. I really think the Ricketts are going to want to go with someone younger than Gillick to run the Cubs' FO.

 

I could see them going with Gillick with the idea that his assistant would be someone young who could be "mentored" by him and take over when he retires. I could see Gillick being the one in charge of overhauling thought and whatnot, retiring after 2-3 years and then his successor taking over to lead the Cubs long term.

 

That's true, though I don't think that would be their first choice.

 

It depends on how much they value experience for the actual overhaul process. They may want a guy who's done it before to lead that part.

[jersey cubs fan]

The president doesn't have to be some young guy who runs a massive overhaul. He's basically got one real important job, hire the right GM. It could be a 2-3 year committment where he hires a GM, and maybe scouting director + player development guy, and have each of them run their own department. After 2-3 years, Ricketts will have been exposed to a lot more baseball business and should be able to hire the replacement president from a bigger pool of candidates.

[Keener98]

WSCR reporting Ricketts and Gillick have spoken recently, as recent as last Wednesday. Also noted though, Gillick and Hendry are very good friends and its very possible Hendry stays if Gillick comes in.

[MWV]

WSCR reporting Ricketts and Gillick have spoken recently, as recent as last Wednesday. Also noted though, Gillick and Hendry are very good friends and its very possible Hendry stays if Gillick comes in.

Gillick would replace Kenney? Or would a new role be established for him?

Removing Crane Kenney would be a positive step, even if we can't rid ourselves of Hendry.

[jersey cubs fan]

WSCR reporting Ricketts and Gillick have spoken recently, as recent as last Wednesday. Also noted though, Gillick and Hendry are very good friends and its very possible Hendry stays if Gillick comes in.

Gillick would replace Kenney? Or would a new role be established for him?

Removing Crane Kenney would be a positive step, even if we can't rid ourselves of Hendry.

 

Replacing Kenney but not Jim Hendry would be absolutely pointless and would do nothing to improve the Cubs chances on the field. A baseball guy isn't going to be a better businessman than Kenney, and a baseball guy who wants Jim Hendry to run this team isn't going to make a lick of difference.

[Guest]

Fire Hendry before hiring Gillick so Gillick doesn't have to fire his buddy.

[Brett]

Hendry and Gillick are very good friends? I'd heard that they were "friendly," but, I mean, are we talking about family dinners together? Or hellos in the elevator?

 

It makes a big difference.

[Sammy Sofa]

Hendry is apparently friends with everyone in baseball.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Hendry is apparently friends with everyone in baseball.

 

Hes apparently the Screech of baseball. Complete [expletive] up, but the "cool kids" hang out with him for some reason.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why do you hate apostrophes so?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Why do you hate apostrophes so?

It's like he's not even trying.

[Guest]

no punctuation whatsoever approach >>>>>>>> random incorrect (and only correct sometimes on accident) placement of punctuation