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hendry gives us a good chance to sign one of the 1b? money coming off the books plus the cubs playing in one of the largest metro areas in the u.s. gives the cubs a good chance to sign one of the 1b.

 

He's not wrong. Hendry has a great reputation with players. I mean, it's because he does dumb things like overpaying crappy relievers and giving out no trade clauses like like Halloween candy, but he still has it.

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That's not a surprise. The only real possibilities are players like Pena, Byrd, Baker, and Grabow which would save very little money and net us no-name prospects.

 

I'm not so sure about that. Pena has had two good months in a row-one more solid month and he could get us something decent. A big left-handed power bat is always useful to somebody.

 

Baker is a question of need. If somebody happens to have a need of a person who mashes left-handers and can play all over the field he could get something back. I doubt the Cubs look real hard to trade him though.

 

Another name that could get something is Fukudome. The Cubs might have to eat some money (because so many teams cannot add payroll) but he's been so good this year and is a relatively rare skillset on the market.

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That's not a surprise. The only real possibilities are players like Pena, Byrd, Baker, and Grabow which would save very little money and net us no-name prospects.

 

I'm not so sure about that. Pena has had two good months in a row-one more solid month and he could get us something decent. A big left-handed power bat is always useful to somebody.

 

Baker is a question of need. If somebody happens to have a need of a person who mashes left-handers and can play all over the field he could get something back. I doubt the Cubs look real hard to trade him though.

 

Another name that could get something is Fukudome. The Cubs might have to eat some money (because so many teams cannot add payroll) but he's been so good this year and is a relatively rare skillset on the market.

 

No name prospects? Pena and Fukudome are both left handed batters, which is worth something. Both play plus defene which is worth something. Both are big OBP guys, which is worth something. Pena is a power bat, which is worth something. Wed probably end up with some decent prospects for either guy, or some cash if we prefered, probably not both. Im not opposed to the cash as long as its used toward some of our overslot draft picks or international FAs.

 

Baker could net us an OK prospect, similar to the Todd Walker return. The fact that he terrorizes lefties is worth something. Same could be said for Reed Johnson.

 

Someone might want Grabow as LHPs are always in some demand, but he might be more likely to move at the waiver deadline.

 

Marlon Byrd is an interesting case. Hes been productive for us and is under contract for another year for fairly cheap. Depending on the outfield plans for 2012, we could consider moving him, but the problem is, we can no longer count on Tyler Colvin as the RF of the future, and Im not sure what to expect from Brett Jackson. I guess they could pick up a cheap FA or trade for someone, but the question is, would we be able to get anything better than Byrd without paying or trading a lot. Otherwise we could have some combination of Tony Campana and Lou Montanez whatever, unless Ryan Flaherty is an option there.

 

Pretty misleading, he just says we're stuck with Soriano and probably with Aram.

 

If Aram wants to resign for 5-7 mil after his option is declined, hey, I dont mind. Its not like there are a hell of a lot of available 3B options, which is something that Aram and his agent know to, which is why he likely wont sign for 5-7 mil.

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btw - in his opening press conference and several times since then, Ricketts has called out Boston as the example he wants to use for building the franchise.

Too bad the Cubs minor league system has been broke for some time.

 

The prospects to choose from are pretty bleak. They have a LONG way to go to get to the Red Sox level.

 

Oh...and some good talent was shipped for Garza (who's been pretty average so far).

 

Hendry gone may help but I am not a fan of how Ricketts wants to improve this team. They need free agents at this point. Not rookies.

 

Not a single word of this post is accurate

Sorry you were wrong.

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btw - in his opening press conference and several times since then, Ricketts has called out Boston as the example he wants to use for building the franchise.

Too bad the Cubs minor league system has been broke for some time.

 

The prospects to choose from are pretty bleak. They have a LONG way to go to get to the Red Sox level.

 

Oh...and some good talent was shipped for Garza (who's been pretty average so far).

 

Hendry gone may help but I am not a fan of how Ricketts wants to improve this team. They need free agents at this point. Not rookies.

 

Not a single word of this post is accurate

Sorry you were wrong.

 

If the account wasn't two years old, I'd say it was fake.

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btw - in his opening press conference and several times since then, Ricketts has called out Boston as the example he wants to use for building the franchise.

Too bad the Cubs minor league system has been broke for some time.

 

The prospects to choose from are pretty bleak. They have a LONG way to go to get to the Red Sox level.

 

Oh...and some good talent was shipped for Garza (who's been pretty average so far).

 

Hendry gone may help but I am not a fan of how Ricketts wants to improve this team. They need free agents at this point. Not rookies.

 

Not a single word of this post is accurate

Sorry you were wrong.

How can the farm system have been broken for a long time and yet have had good talent to ship out for Garza?

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btw - in his opening press conference and several times since then, Ricketts has called out Boston as the example he wants to use for building the franchise.

Too bad the Cubs minor league system has been broke for some time.

 

The prospects to choose from are pretty bleak. They have a LONG way to go to get to the Red Sox level.

 

Oh...and some good talent was shipped for Garza (who's been pretty average so far).

 

Hendry gone may help but I am not a fan of how Ricketts wants to improve this team. They need free agents at this point. Not rookies.

 

Not a single word of this post is accurate

Sorry you were wrong.

How can the farm system have been broken for a long time and yet have had good talent to ship out for Garza?

 

I took him to mean "broke" as being unable to develop raw talent into legitimate major league prospects, not that there has necessarily been a complete absence of talent.

 

That being said, if you can't develop your players then you are probably better off sending them off to someone else in exchange for marginal major league players. Just a thought.

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btw - in his opening press conference and several times since then, Ricketts has called out Boston as the example he wants to use for building the franchise.

Too bad the Cubs minor league system has been broke for some time.

 

The prospects to choose from are pretty bleak. They have a LONG way to go to get to the Red Sox level.

 

Oh...and some good talent was shipped for Garza (who's been pretty average so far).

 

Hendry gone may help but I am not a fan of how Ricketts wants to improve this team. They need free agents at this point. Not rookies.

 

Not a single word of this post is accurate

Sorry you were wrong.

 

Only because you went through and dissected each point I made that you YOU asked me to provide...I have no choice but to concede this argument.

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Is it your implication that Garza is a "marginal major leaguer"? Because that's, uh, false.

 

It's not an implication, it's an assumption based on the previous post. I haven't really followed the Cubs closely in several years, so unfortunately I don't know Matt Garza of the Cubs from Joey Garza of the Larry McMurtry novel "Streets of Laredo."

 

Regardless of whether Matt Garza is marginal, sub-marginal, or a budding superstar, I still stand by the basic premise that if you have young players who, regardless of how much raw talent they posess, will never develop into major league performers of any caliber under your system, you are probably better off trading them for the 25th man on your roster than keeping them around.

 

Unless the 25th man you want to trade for has a miserable contract that will tie up half of your budget for several years. In that case you are better off keeping your prospects until they burn out and hiring them to sell programs at Wrigley.

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Is it your implication that Garza is a "marginal major leaguer"? Because that's, uh, false.

 

It's not an implication, it's an assumption based on the previous post. I haven't really followed the Cubs closely in several years, so unfortunately I don't know Matt Garza of the Cubs from Joey Garza of the Larry McMurtry novel "Streets of Laredo."

 

Regardless of whether Matt Garza is marginal, sub-marginal, or a budding superstar, I still stand by the basic premise that if you have young players who, regardless of how much raw talent they posess, will never develop into major league performers of any caliber under your system, you are probably better off trading them for the 25th man on your roster than keeping them around.

 

Unless the 25th man you want to trade for has a miserable contract that will tie up half of your budget for several years. In that case you are better off keeping your prospects until they burn out and hiring them to sell programs at Wrigley.

 

I don't understand any of this post.

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Is it your implication that Garza is a "marginal major leaguer"? Because that's, uh, false.

 

It's not an implication, it's an assumption based on the previous post. I haven't really followed the Cubs closely in several years, so unfortunately I don't know Matt Garza of the Cubs from Joey Garza of the Larry McMurtry novel "Streets of Laredo."

 

Regardless of whether Matt Garza is marginal, sub-marginal, or a budding superstar, I still stand by the basic premise that if you have young players who, regardless of how much raw talent they posess, will never develop into major league performers of any caliber under your system, you are probably better off trading them for the 25th man on your roster than keeping them around.

 

Unless the 25th man you want to trade for has a miserable contract that will tie up half of your budget for several years. In that case you are better off keeping your prospects until they burn out and hiring them to sell programs at Wrigley.

 

I don't understand any of this post.

 

If prospects aren't going to be good trade them for guys who will do something.

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And he doesn't know who Matt Garza is.
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Is it your implication that Garza is a "marginal major leaguer"? Because that's, uh, false.

 

It's not an implication, it's an assumption based on the previous post. I haven't really followed the Cubs closely in several years, so unfortunately I don't know Matt Garza of the Cubs from Joey Garza of the Larry McMurtry novel "Streets of Laredo."

 

Regardless of whether Matt Garza is marginal, sub-marginal, or a budding superstar, I still stand by the basic premise that if you have young players who, regardless of how much raw talent they posess, will never develop into major league performers of any caliber under your system, you are probably better off trading them for the 25th man on your roster than keeping them around.

 

Unless the 25th man you want to trade for has a miserable contract that will tie up half of your budget for several years. In that case you are better off keeping your prospects until they burn out and hiring them to sell programs at Wrigley.

 

I don't understand any of this post.

 

If prospects aren't going to be good trade them for guys who will do something.

 

Sounds like Kenny Williams philosophy that prospects are nothing more than currency.

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hendry gives us a good chance to sign one of the 1b? money coming off the books plus the cubs playing in one of the largest metro areas in the u.s. gives the cubs a good chance to sign one of the 1b.

 

I don't disagree, and I think Hendry is another advantage. Besides Soriano and a couple of stupid MR contracts when the team was good, I like what he's done in FA, especially recently.

 

The Cubs' money certainly helps him, but I think he pushes hard for the players he wants and he usually lands them. While I'll never forgive him for skipping on Beltran, I have to credit him for having money to spend and an open 1B position the year Albert Pujols/Prince Fielder hit the FA market.

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I have to credit him for having money to spend and an open 1B position the year Albert Pujols/Prince Fielder hit the FA market.

 

Are you kidding me? He gets credit for the Cubs having needs?

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