Pujols signs with Angels pg 151

[erik316wttn]

This has probably already been asked, but how much comes off the books next offseason? Because if it's not much, I don't see the Ricketts family opening up the bank vault for Pujols when they didn't expand the budget much this offseason.

[mookie]

This has probably already been asked, but how much comes off the books next offseason? Because if it's not much, I don't see the Ricketts family opening up the bank vault for Pujols when they didn't expand the budget much this offseason.

 

I don't have a quote for you, but he pretty much already alluded to doing just that.

[erik316wttn]

This has probably already been asked, but how much comes off the books next offseason? Because if it's not much, I don't see the Ricketts family opening up the bank vault for Pujols when they didn't expand the budget much this offseason.

 

I don't have a quote for you, but he pretty much already alluded to doing just that.

 

Good. As he should.

[javy knows my name]

This has probably already been asked, but how much comes off the books next offseason? Because if it's not much, I don't see the Ricketts family opening up the bank vault for Pujols when they didn't expand the budget much this offseason.

 

I don't like doing this all that often, but there are like ten budget threads on here. And what the other guy said.

[CubColtPacer]

This has probably already been asked, but how much comes off the books next offseason? Because if it's not much, I don't see the Ricketts family opening up the bank vault for Pujols when they didn't expand the budget much this offseason.

 

It's very hard to give a concrete figure because of signing bonuses, deferred money, etc. that we don't know how the Cubs do the accounting for. But here's a partial list:

 

13.5-14.5 for Kosukue

12.6 for Aramis (if the club option is declined and after buyout is paid)

4.8 million for Grabow

4 million for Silva (after buyout is paid)

5-10 million for Pena (depending on if the 5 million deferred is counted for next year or not)

3 million for Samardzija (with Cubs declining option)

and maybe 13.5 million for Dempster (if he declines player option)

 

Of course, some of that money is eaten up by arbitration raises.

 

Ricketts is trying to transition this team that builds through its farm system and makes key free agency acquisitions to complement that. I believe Pujols actually helps that philosophy in multiple ways and I can't see Ricketts blocking it if it came to that.

[Guest]

After this season, we lose Kosuke(14.5M), Pena(10M), maybe Dempster(14.5M), and maybe Ramirez(12.6M), which adds up to almost 52 million. Grabow(4.8M), Samardzija(3.5M), and Silva(5.3M) might be coming off the books as well for another 13 million or so.

[SouthSideRyan]

FWIW, as a Cubs fan, I own a Pujols jersey. It's a Dominican Republic jersey, though. I'd never where a Cards jersey. Ever.

 

Acceptable if and only if you're a first generation immigrant from the Dominican Republic and you bought that jersey before you came to America.

 

And your last name is pujols.

 

And you're a Cardinal fan

[Ding Dong Johnson]

FWIW, as a Cubs fan, I own a Pujols jersey. It's a Dominican Republic jersey, though. I'd never where a Cards jersey. Ever.

 

Acceptable if and only if you're a first generation immigrant from the Dominican Republic and you bought that jersey before you came to America.

 

And your last name is pujols.

 

And you're a Cardinal fan

And a child

[Guest]

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[ConstableRabbit]

Haha where's that from?

[BCVM22]

It's David Kaplan's. :scratch:

[bcl412]

Man, this Pujols free agency is starting to feel like the LeBron free agency.

[SouthSideRyan]

YOU DIDN'T CREDIT @THEKAPMAN!!

[Magnetic Curses]

Man, this Pujols free agency is starting to feel like the LeBron free agency.

 

the difference is that we are the clear leaders and can give him more than anyone else. please please please happen.

[Jazz]

Man, this Pujols free agency is starting to feel like the LeBron free agency.

 

the difference is that we are the clear leaders and can give him more than anyone else. please please please happen.

 

are we really the clear leaders? Where are the mets, sox, angels, etc.. in all of this?

 

I still think he'll resign with STL tho.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Mets are broke and the White Sox have 2 1B signed for a few more years.

[Jazz]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

[mookie]

If it gets to the point of him not re-signing with St. Louis, I don't see anyone else beating us to the punch. I have nothing to back this up, just a gut feeling.

[BCVM22]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

 

One would have to think that, but I think the point is a valid one. Let's examine the teams who could even potentially afford the contract Pujols wants:

 

Angels: Could be a factor, absolutely, though Arte Moreno isn't a fan of contracts as huge as what Pujols wants

Mets: In major financial trouble at the moment, and you don't figure that's going to all go away (to the point where they could offer $275-$300 million) by November or December

Phillies/White Sox/Yankees/Red Sox: All have first basemen signed to huge contracts

Dodgers: Could be a factor, but similar to the Mets, their ownership situation is still in flux, which could potentially preclude them from a signing that huge; I'm including them here more because they're in a huge market and could theoretically afford it, not because they're usually players in the big-name free agent market

 

And save for the Cubs, that's really all of the teams who could even potentially afford a contract that large, isn't it?

[CP_414]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

 

One would have to think that, but I think the point is a valid one. Let's examine the teams who could even potentially afford the contract Pujols wants:

 

Angels: Could be a factor, absolutely, though Arte Moreno isn't a fan of contracts as huge as what Pujols wants

Mets: In major financial trouble at the moment, and you don't figure that's going to all go away (to the point where they could offer $275-$300 million) by November or December

Phillies/White Sox/Yankees/Red Sox: All have first basemen signed to huge contracts

Dodgers: Could be a factor, but similar to the Mets, their ownership situation is still in flux, which could potentially preclude them from a signing that huge

 

And save for the Cubs, that's really all of the teams who could even potentially afford a contract that large, isn't it?

 

 

Nationals: Gave Werth huge money, seem willing to spend.

Rangers: Big market, good team, no long term 1b. THey offered Lee huge $, but this would take double

Giants: Good team, good market, big contracts ending soon

Blue Jays: I think they have about $15M committed beyond 2011 and a solid core of young players. They could afford $30M to one guy if they wanted to.

 

I'd bet on St. Louis, the Cubs have a good chance, but lots of teams will be in on Albert.

[Cubswin11]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

 

One would have to think that, but I think the point is a valid one. Let's examine the teams who could even potentially afford the contract Pujols wants:

 

Angels: Could be a factor, absolutely, though Arte Moreno isn't a fan of contracts as huge as what Pujols wants

Mets: In major financial trouble at the moment, and you don't figure that's going to all go away (to the point where they could offer $275-$300 million) by November or December

Phillies/White Sox/Yankees/Red Sox: All have first basemen signed to huge contracts

Dodgers: Could be a factor, but similar to the Mets, their ownership situation is still in flux, which could potentially preclude them from a signing that huge; I'm including them here more because they're in a huge market and could theoretically afford it, not because they're usually players in the big-name free agent market

 

And save for the Cubs, that's really all of the teams who could even potentially afford a contract that large, isn't it?

There are three scenarios I could see play out that I think would make it difficult for the Mets to get Pujols. 1)They are in the middle of selling the team in the offseason and don't want to bring any big contracts while the sale is being completed. 2) MLB continues to give them assistance or even takes control of the team (like NBA with the Hornets) until a new owner is found, the owners wouldn't allow for the Mets to take on a contract like what Pujols is going to get while MLB controls the team. 3)Ike Davis improves on his rookie year and has another solid year, and the Mets decide to allocate their money (however little or big that is) to other spots in the offseason (SP, OF, resigning Reyes).

[Splendid Splinter]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

 

One would have to think that, but I think the point is a valid one. Let's examine the teams who could even potentially afford the contract Pujols wants:

 

Angels: Could be a factor, absolutely, though Arte Moreno isn't a fan of contracts as huge as what Pujols wants

Mets: In major financial trouble at the moment, and you don't figure that's going to all go away (to the point where they could offer $275-$300 million) by November or December

Phillies/White Sox/Yankees/Red Sox: All have first basemen signed to huge contracts

Dodgers: Could be a factor, but similar to the Mets, their ownership situation is still in flux, which could potentially preclude them from a signing that huge

 

And save for the Cubs, that's really all of the teams who could even potentially afford a contract that large, isn't it?

 

Possibly Blues Jays/Nationals/Orioles/Giants/Rangers/Mariners... Not saying these teams have a good chance or anything, but they could realistically make a run at Pujols if they wanted... They could at least get involved in the bidding is what I mean here...

[Cubswin11]

point taken with bad examples, but Pujols being the best player of this decade, youd have to think that there should be at least 5 or so teams involved in the bidding when he hits market.

 

One would have to think that, but I think the point is a valid one. Let's examine the teams who could even potentially afford the contract Pujols wants:

 

Angels: Could be a factor, absolutely, though Arte Moreno isn't a fan of contracts as huge as what Pujols wants

Mets: In major financial trouble at the moment, and you don't figure that's going to all go away (to the point where they could offer $275-$300 million) by November or December

Phillies/White Sox/Yankees/Red Sox: All have first basemen signed to huge contracts

Dodgers: Could be a factor, but similar to the Mets, their ownership situation is still in flux, which could potentially preclude them from a signing that huge

 

And save for the Cubs, that's really all of the teams who could even potentially afford a contract that large, isn't it?

 

 

Nationals: Gave Werth huge money, seem willing to spend.

Rangers: Big market, good team, no long term 1b. THey offered Lee huge $, but this would take double

Giants: Good team, good market, big contracts ending soon

Blue Jays: I think they have about $15M committed beyond 2011 and a solid core of young players. They could afford $30M to one guy if they wanted to.

 

I'd bet on St. Louis, the Cubs have a good chance, but lots of teams will be in on Albert.

If they get him, Hendry better be figuring out how to trade for Brandon Belt

[SouthSideRyan]

Nobody said no other teams would be in it. They said that we'd be the frontrunners

[Magnetic Curses]

Man, this Pujols free agency is starting to feel like the LeBron free agency.

 

the difference is that we are the clear leaders and can give him more than anyone else. please please please happen.

 

I still think he'll resign with STL tho.

 

exactly what many people were saying about lebron, exactly. clear up until the end when it was obvious he was miami-bound.