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Draw this.

England win.

 

USA wins.

Eng/Slv Draw.

 

 

Slovenia 7

England 5

USA 5

 

Eh? Wouldn't Slovenia have 5?

 

No, Slovenia beat Algeria (3), are about to beat us (3) and would get a point for the draw with England (1), totaling 7.

 

Well under that math, the US would only get four, making this all moot.

 

 

Draw this.

England win.

 

USA wins.

Eng/Slv Draw.

 

 

Slovenia 5

England 5

USA 5

In that situation, the USA is better off if England/Slovenia doesn't end in a draw, because the loser would have 4 and it wouldn't come down to differential.

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Draw this.

England win.

 

USA wins.

Eng/Slv Draw.

 

 

Slovenia 7

England 5

USA 5

 

 

So all we need is 2 goals the rest of this game, and to beat Algeria by more than England does. Oh, and England needs to not beat a team they should too.

 

 

Nightmarish.

 

If we manage to draw this and beat Algeria and England beats Algeria and either beats or ties Slovenia, it's likely we'll move on. If England beats Slovenia, we have five points and they have four so we're second. If they tie, it's goal differential which is basically how much you beat Algeria by, and Slovenia only beat Algeria by one so if we can beat them by two, we'd advance regardless of what England does.

 

Getting the tie today is easily the hardest part of that, though.

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Awesome shot of a little African kid repeatedly kicking his friend in the back until he fell over, then throwing a stick at someone
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Also, doesn't it seem kind of dumb to keep going for the long ball from our own half when our best players are Donovan and Dempsey. We can't win balls in the air for crap either.
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Ian Darke kept raving about how we were turning the heat up and made it seem like we had the momentum.

 

Except you miss those chances and you get demoralized.

 

you bring that many forward and whiff 2 or 3 times in a row, you open yourself up for a counterattack

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That second goal was bad marking by Onyewu and he didn't have the speed to recover.

 

First goal was far too much space and a good finish by the Slovenian player.

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Also, doesn't it seem kind of dumb to keep going for the long ball from our own half when our best players are Donovan and Dempsey. We can't win balls in the air for crap either.

 

it's just lack of patience. We did get a nice chance out of a Bradley long ball before Slovenia scored their second, though

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So if we don't advance, does Bradley get canned?
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Also, doesn't it seem kind of dumb to keep going for the long ball from our own half when our best players are Donovan and Dempsey. We can't win balls in the air for crap either.

 

it's just lack of patience. We did get a nice chance out of a Bradley long ball before Slovenia scored their second, though

 

I just thought it was kind of weird that we kept going for a hail mary when Slovenia would immediately get the ball back and start applying the pressure again (prior to the 1st goal).

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The last time the US played a World Cup group match and didn't concede a goal was in 1950 against England.

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