According to ESPN, Cubs SOS is 29th in MLB

[Banedon]

Yeah it's not ignoring on purpose or anything. It's just lack of interest. I can't explain it. I watched every game in 2006, so its not the losing that necessarily bothers me. I still watch baseball, I'm watching a White Sox-Royals game as we speak. It's just something about this team that I just don't want to follow them.

 

I'm with you, and I think what is bothering us is a lack of hope. There's no big name superstar like a Jake Peavy, or Brian Roberts, or Nomar, or anyone that's going to come and help turn this team around. There's no big name guy that's going to be coming off the disabled list to help out. This is a full strength team that's sucking. There's no indications that Lou or Hendry are in any kind of great danger of losing their jobs...maybe some hope on the board, but there's no massive outcry that I've noticed...not like there was with Baker and Baylor anyway. And we're stuck with some massive contracts that aren't going away after this season. Lee and Lilly (I think) are the only two that are free agents after this season...and really, Lilly hasn't been a problem since he's been here...and there's no real heir-apparent for Lee. So those don't feel like relief points.

 

The Blackhawks, Bulls and Bears all have something to look forward too...though some moreso than others. I just don't see that with the Cubs right now. And it turns out that I'm a bigger fan of the Cubs than I am of baseball as a whole...which I'm not proud to say around here.

[E.J.]

I think we're all just worn out by the Cubs. It's been a hellish run since 2003. We're all due for a break, and I think most of us are taking it. I've gone to one game this season and watched maybe 2 on TV. I just can't bring myself to care.

[RedFlash]

Just so everyone knows, today marks the end of the Cubs early season "easy" schedule. For the rest of the month, the Cubs have the Rockies, the Phillies, Rangers, Dodgers, and St. Louis.

This is about to get ugly, quickly. :blackeye:

[Sammy Sofa]

It's not ugly already? A loss is a loss. Losing 10 of their last 12 games is pretty hideous to begin with.

[illiniguy]

I think we're all just worn out by the Cubs. It's been a hellish run since 2003. We're all due for a break, and I think most of us are taking it. I've gone to one game this season and watched maybe 2 on TV. I just can't bring myself to care.

It just doesn't bother me anymore. 2008 used up a lot of energy.

[Sammy Sofa]

Dude, you are way too hung up on 2008.

[illiniguy]

Dude, you are way too hung up on 2008.

I know, but never before have we just dominated a season like that then to have it just crash down. But, 2003 hurts way more still. It's just having 2003 happen and then 2008 that quickly after. I just expect crap to happen to our franchise now.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, yeah. But that's because they usually put badly constructed teams on the field. Par for the course, really.

[illiniguy]

Well, yeah. But that's because they usually put badly constructed teams on the field. Par for the course, really.

True, but they weren't in '08. And it still didn't matter. Plus it angers me that for a second I thought they could do it and I told myself after '03 I would never ever believe that again. If we were up 3-0 in the World Series at this point, I know we would be the team that gave that away.

[MWV]

2008 was fun. I know it didn't end that way, but it was fun.

I was recently discussing the Cubs' woes with a friend of mine, to which he stated, "at least your not a Bruins fan", referring to the epic collapse of Boston in the playoffs last week. I'm not so sure about this. As much as recent postseason exits still sting, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a baseball team as much as I did the 2008 Cubs. Conversely, watching this team, with more than the requisite resources--and much of the talent--needed to be a .500 or better team, fail so abysmally is just aggravating. A terrible playoff exit is a painful ending, but at least there is some quality baseball along the way.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, '08 is looking more and more like an outlier as opposed to being the result of a team that was soundly constructed to compete for multiple seasons. Plus it's one thing to anticipate failure due to a specific teams' weaknesses and flaws and another to expect it as some kind of bad luck juju that's going to inevitably bring them down.

[Sammy Sofa]

2008 was fun. I know it didn't end that way, but it was fun.

I was recently discussing the Cubs' woes with a friend of mine, to which he stated, "at least your not a Bruins fan", referring to the epic collapse of Boston in the playoffs last week. I'm not so sure about this. As much as recent postseason exits still sting, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a baseball team as much as I did the 2008 Cubs. Conversely, watching this team, with more than the requisite resources--and much of the talent--needed to be a .500 or better team, fail so abysmally is just aggravating. A terrible playoff exit is a painful ending, but at least there is some quality baseball along the way.

 

Yeah, same here. The ending of the season stunk, but 2008 as a whole was by far the most fun I've had as a Cubs fan. If anything it made me more of a fan as opposed to making me all apathetic about bad seasons to come.

 

And on that note, I'm off to the game.

[MWV]

2008 was fun. I know it didn't end that way, but it was fun.

I was recently discussing the Cubs' woes with a friend of mine, to which he stated, "at least your not a Bruins fan", referring to the epic collapse of Boston in the playoffs last week. I'm not so sure about this. As much as recent postseason exits still sting, I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching a baseball team as much as I did the 2008 Cubs. Conversely, watching this team, with more than the requisite resources--and much of the talent--needed to be a .500 or better team, fail so abysmally is just aggravating. A terrible playoff exit is a painful ending, but at least there is some quality baseball along the way.

 

Yeah, same here. The ending of the season stunk, but 2008 as a whole was by far the most fun I've had as a Cubs fan. If anything it made me more of a fan as opposed to making me all apathetic about bad seasons to come.

 

And on that note, I'm off to the game.

Cheers! Here's hoping we can steal one from the Bucs.

[RedFlash]

It's not ugly already? A loss is a loss. Losing 10 of their last 12 games is pretty hideous to begin with.

 

It's not even close to being ugly. I think we are close to being the 2010 version of the 2009 New York Mets in terms of getting ugly.

[RedFlash]

Cheers! Here's hoping we can steal one from the Bucs.

 

Never in my wildest dreams that it would be so bad that we are begging for the Cubs to "steal a game from the Bucs." Ouch........

[illiniguy]

Well, '08 is looking more and more like an outlier as opposed to being the result of a team that was soundly constructed to compete for multiple seasons. Plus it's one thing to anticipate failure due to a specific teams' weaknesses and flaws and another to expect it as some kind of bad luck juju that's going to inevitably bring them down.

It's not bad juju, although I will admit it seems a lot of bad crap happens to this franchise that is hard to believe.

[MWV]

Cheers! Here's hoping we can steal one from the Bucs.

 

Never in my wildest dreams that it would be so bad that we are begging for the Cubs to "steal a game from the Bucs." Ouch........

Yeah, I was conflicted as to whether I should put sarcastic quotes around "steal". At 0-5, nothing is clear.

[J.R.]

2008 was fantastic. So was 2007, and so was 2003.

 

"Hellish" is the 1990s. The '00s were great.

[Vinestal]

I just wish come the trade deadline they'd trade off some players and go into a rebuilding mode. I knew this team was going to be mediocre at best and certainly not a playoff team, they didn't do much in the offseason to improve things. *sigh*

[fivepercent]

I'm extremely frustrated with the way the season has gone, but I haven't given up. I might have packed it in already if our starting pitching just sucked and ARam and DLee were hitting somewhere near their norms. Those two are really holding back this team so far IMO. Maybe they wont turn it around and both have career worst years, but I'm not about to give up in middle May.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's not ugly already? A loss is a loss. Losing 10 of their last 12 games is pretty hideous to begin with.

 

It's not even close to being ugly. I think we are close to being the 2010 version of the 2009 New York Mets in terms of getting ugly.

 

Yeah, but how much worse can it really get? Use the group of games I brought up as an example: before today's game they had lost 10 of their last 12 games. Yeah, it could technically be worse in that they could have lost all 12 games, but really, it's not like you've suddenly jumped off a cliff between losing all 12 and losing 10 of 12. Again, a loss is a loss. It's not like losses to good teams are going to count more or "hurt worse" than the losses to the bad and average teams.

Edited May 17, 2010 by Sammy Sofa

[bhogg]

There are similarities to 2007. The Cubs really arent worth a damn, but neither are any of the other craptacular teams in the NL Central.

 

As bad as the Cubs have been, I'm amazed that they are still around 5 games out of first. Granted, being that close has a laundry list of things that piss me off, but I guess it is what it is (God, I hate that cliche).

[Sosa21MVP]

I like how people are like "I can't stand watching the Cubs and their mediocrity, I just have to make it to July so I can follow every word of training camp of the Bears, surely they won't be mediocre"

That's kinda what I was thinking.

 

Well the Bears at least made some significant changes in the off season so there is the off hand possibility that they may not suck. :D

[champaignchris]

"Hellish" is the 1990s. The '00s were great.

 

I was thinking along the same lines. I'm nowhere near my lowest point with the Cubs, which would have been in 1992-1993, when they didn't resign Maddux, the culmination of a series of bizarre front-office moves that more or less started with the trade of Lee Smith for Calvin Schiraldi and Al Nipper after the 1987 season, and saw everything Dallas Green had built up (i.e., the farm system) systematically destroyed.

 

I don't think I went to a game between 1991 and 1999. I basically don't remember anything about the Cubs from 1993 to 1997. Other than the 0-14 start in 1997, they were a completely unremarkable team. If the Sammy-McGwire thing combined with Woody coming up and an out of nowhere playoff run hadn't all happened in 1998, I may never have paid attention to the team again.

 

Even this Century, this year isn't anything close to how I felt in 2006. At some point in 2006 I saw that they were on pace to break the Cubs record for worst winning percentage in a season. At that point, I started rooting against the team. I figured that if I was going to pay attention to them, they might as well do something I'd never seen before. I'd seen plenty of .400 seasons before... Gimme a .360 season! When they went 3-18 during a stretch in late-August to early-September, I thought I could be witnessing history. Of course, their valiant 10-9 "surge" to end the season put an end to the excitement.

 

It's May and we're only 6 games out. What's a bad first quarter of a season in the grand scheme of things to a franchise that hasn't drafted an every day position player since Joe Girardi?

[SouthSideRyan]

What's a bad first quarter of a season in the grand scheme of things to a franchise that hasn't drafted an every day position player since Joe Girardi?

 

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