Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks Thread!!!!!!

[UMFan83]

-San Jose are perennial playoff chokers that ran into an old and tired Detroit team and were outscored in the series despite winning in 5 games.

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I'm not saying it's not impressive to beat Detroit in 5 games, even if all 4 wins were by 1 goal. It just doesn't prove conclusively to me that they are playing great right now. Also, they definitely started to choke that series against Colorado. They didn't look particularly great in that series, falling behind 2-1 before winning their final 3 much like the Hawks, but I'd say Nashville was a stronger opponent than Colorado.

Technically, didn't every first round Western Conference winner fall behind 2-1?

 

Yeah but that doesn't mean its any less of a viable point that the Sharks didn't exactly dominate the first round.

[kujay]

Things that make me feel good about the upcoming Hawks-Sharks series:

 

- During the regular season, the Hawks went 3-1 against the Sharks. In the lone loss, the Hawks outshot the Sharks 47-14 with Huet in net.

- San Jose lost 6 times in regulation during the regular season. One was to the Hawks. They also lost the other home game to them in OT in the only of the 4 games it can't be said the Hawks dominated play.

- In one of the games, San Jose had 6 power plays, and were a combined -3 in them in a game the Hawks won 7-2.

 

Another thing is, a couple of those Hawks-Sharks games in the regular season were "spotlight" games that people were really looking at as measuring sticks for both teams. And when the pressure was on, SJ got dominated.

 

I don't think we want to overplay the "choker" card with that team, but playing against the best competition they've seen all season over a long series, I think it will show.

[jersey cubs fan]

Things that make me feel good about the upcoming Hawks-Sharks series:

 

- During the regular season, the Hawks went 3-1 against the Sharks. In the lone loss, the Hawks outshot the Sharks 47-14 with Huet in net.

- San Jose lost 6 times in regulation during the regular season. One was to the Hawks. They also lost the other home game to them in OT in the only of the 4 games it can't be said the Hawks dominated play.

- In one of the games, San Jose had 6 power plays, and were a combined -3 in them in a game the Hawks won 7-2.

 

Another thing is, a couple of those Hawks-Sharks games in the regular season were "spotlight" games that people were really looking at as measuring sticks for both teams. And when the pressure was on, SJ got dominated.

 

I don't think we want to overplay the "choker" card with that team, but playing against the best competition they've seen all season over a long series, I think it will show.

 

The Blackhawks crapped the bed on some spotlight games as well, like Washington on NBC, Game 1 vs Nashville and Game 1 vs Vancouver.

 

The only thing that makes me feel good about this series is that the Blackhawks are good, all these side issues are meaningless to me.

[Banedon]

Eulogy: Remembering the 2009-10 Vancouver Canucks

[kujay]

It's official, Game 1 at 2:00 CDT on Sunday.

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports-headlines/ci_15078603?nclick_check=1

[UMFan83]

I keep forgetting to mention this, so excuse the randomness of this post but... I went to game 5 of the Canucks series, and I swear, I was embarrassed at how dumb the fans around me were.

 

The most glaring example of this was when a delayed penalty was called on the Canucks. When Niemi came out to get the extra attacker on, the person next to me tapped me on the shoulder and said "OMG WHAT IS QUINVILLE DOING, HES ADDING AN EXTRA ATTACKER IN THE FIRST PERIOD! WHY IS HE DOING SOMETHING SO RISKY?" I had to explain why the extra attacker was coming on. Then in the third period this happened again, and this time someone sitting 2 rows in front of me said almost the exact thing.

 

Other than that, I heard people around me wondering outloud why certain whistles were blown (like not understanding offsides), booing the refs for not calling icing during a penalty, and one guy kept bitching about how the Hawks were spending the whole game back tracking when they had the puck, which could possibly be a valid point, but not when they are on a PK and trying to kill as much time as possible. Also not a valid point when it's either kicking the puck back when your in the neutral zone or turning it over and giving the other team an odd man situation. I don't think some people understand that plays are often set up and it's not just fast break end to end hockey all the time.

 

Anyways, maybe I just sat in a bad section, but I was fairly embarrassed to sit with these Hawks "fans". I don't claim to be a huge expert on hockey. Sometimes I am unsure of why the whistle is stopping certain plays (like missing a hand pass or something), sometimes I blame a goal scored on Niemi, when the defense had a breakdown. But I try to keep stuff like that to this board alone, not at the UC, just as I don't go into a science lab and start ripping on the chemists for their work.

[Soul]

This is because for over a decade nobody cared about the Hawks, and now they do.

 

They should probably keep their mouth shut until they learn more, but I welcome the non-core fans back. Heck, I'm one of them, unapologetically. I'm still learning about the game. Most of the time my game commentary consists of "OOh! Hit that guy! Um.......get the puck back! Stop sucking! Yes!" Pretty low-brow, un-knowlegeable stuff.

 

I don't see a problem with fans who aren't knowledgeable deciding they want to get involved now that the Hawks are better. They just don't know much about hockey yet. That will improve over time. But again, I agree they should probably think before they yell out embarrassing stuff.

[Banedon]

Yeah, you either want more fans or you don't. Part of growing the sport is new fans learning about the game. So, especially during the playoffs, you're gonna have that.

[UMFan83]

This is because for over a decade nobody cared about the Hawks, and now they do.

 

They should probably keep their mouth shut until they learn more, but I welcome the non-core fans back. Heck, I'm one of them, unapologetically. I'm still learning about the game. Most of the time my game commentary consists of "OOh! Hit that guy! Um.......get the puck back! Stop sucking! Yes!" Pretty low-brow, un-knowlegeable stuff.

 

I don't see a problem with fans who aren't knowledgeable deciding they want to get involved now that the Hawks are better. They just don't know much about hockey yet. That will improve over time. But again, I agree they should probably think before they yell out embarrassing stuff.

 

No I agree, bring the bandwagon on. Put like you identified, my point was stop yelling things out like you know what your talking about. I still followed the Hawks during the bad years. I could name the top line and then some other players here and there on the team. I didn't go out of my way to watch very many of the games, but I generally knew how the team was doing on a week to week sometimes day to day basis, and I watched all sorts of hockey during that time (I went to UNH for a couple of years which is a huge hockey school who was really good at the time). But yeah, I can't confidently say "I stood by the team during the bad years" like I did with the Bulls, or the Bears in the early 00's, or the Cubs when they have a bad year. Does that make me less of a fan than those stodgy die hards? Maybe, probably. Does it make me enjoy it less knowing that? Not one bit.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is because for over a decade nobody cared about the Hawks, and now they do.

 

They should probably keep their mouth shut until they learn more, but I welcome the non-core fans back. Heck, I'm one of them, unapologetically. I'm still learning about the game. Most of the time my game commentary consists of "OOh! Hit that guy! Um.......get the puck back! Stop sucking! Yes!" Pretty low-brow, un-knowlegeable stuff.

 

I don't see a problem with fans who aren't knowledgeable deciding they want to get involved now that the Hawks are better. They just don't know much about hockey yet. That will improve over time. But again, I agree they should probably think before they yell out embarrassing stuff.

 

No I agree, bring the bandwagon on. Put like you identified, my point was stop yelling things out like you know what your talking about. I still followed the Hawks during the bad years. I could name the top line and then some other players here and there on the team. I didn't go out of my way to watch very many of the games, but I generally knew how the team was doing on a week to week sometimes day to day basis, and I watched all sorts of hockey during that time (I went to UNH for a couple of years which is a huge hockey school who was really good at the time). But yeah, I can't confidently say "I stood by the team during the bad years" like I did with the Bulls, or the Bears in the early 00's, or the Cubs when they have a bad year. Does that make me less of a fan than those stodgy die hards? Maybe, probably. Does it make me enjoy it less knowing that? Not one bit.

 

This stuff happens at every hockey arena in the USA. I've sat next to people in MSG who literally had the game explained to them the entire time. It's the nature of a major sport that is played by only a tiny fraction of the population. In Phoenix the only thing I heard the entire time was "HIT HIM!" when the Blackhawks had the puck, and "Shoot! Shoot it!" when the Coyotes had the puck. If I went to a futbol or cricket match, I'd probably spend the entire time asking people about situations.

[SpongeWorthy]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

[Flames24Rulz]

Things that make me feel good about the upcoming Hawks-Sharks series:

 

- During the regular season, the Hawks went 3-1 against the Sharks. In the lone loss, the Hawks outshot the Sharks 47-14 with Huet in net.

- San Jose lost 6 times in regulation during the regular season. One was to the Hawks. They also lost the other home game to them in OT in the only of the 4 games it can't be said the Hawks dominated play.

- In one of the games, San Jose had 6 power plays, and were a combined -3 in them in a game the Hawks won 7-2.

 

We owned them in the regular season this year. Before the Vancouver series, I said I liked how we matched up with them. I really like how we match up with San Jose.

[Soul]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

[kujay]

Yeah, you either want more fans or you don't. Part of growing the sport is new fans learning about the game. So, especially during the playoffs, you're gonna have that.

 

Like he said, the point is a broader one. If you don't know what you're talking about, best not to broadcast it to the world, or at least the entire section.

 

And I've said before, I welcome everyone who is interested in hockey. I'm certainly no expert, but I'm always willing to answer questions (which usually means offering opinions, of which I have many). The Hawks need to grow the fanbase, and not everyone is a genius of the game from day one.

[UMFan83]

This is because for over a decade nobody cared about the Hawks, and now they do.

 

They should probably keep their mouth shut until they learn more, but I welcome the non-core fans back. Heck, I'm one of them, unapologetically. I'm still learning about the game. Most of the time my game commentary consists of "OOh! Hit that guy! Um.......get the puck back! Stop sucking! Yes!" Pretty low-brow, un-knowlegeable stuff.

 

I don't see a problem with fans who aren't knowledgeable deciding they want to get involved now that the Hawks are better. They just don't know much about hockey yet. That will improve over time. But again, I agree they should probably think before they yell out embarrassing stuff.

 

No I agree, bring the bandwagon on. Put like you identified, my point was stop yelling things out like you know what your talking about. I still followed the Hawks during the bad years. I could name the top line and then some other players here and there on the team. I didn't go out of my way to watch very many of the games, but I generally knew how the team was doing on a week to week sometimes day to day basis, and I watched all sorts of hockey during that time (I went to UNH for a couple of years which is a huge hockey school who was really good at the time). But yeah, I can't confidently say "I stood by the team during the bad years" like I did with the Bulls, or the Bears in the early 00's, or the Cubs when they have a bad year. Does that make me less of a fan than those stodgy die hards? Maybe, probably. Does it make me enjoy it less knowing that? Not one bit.

 

This stuff happens at every hockey arena in the USA. I've sat next to people in MSG who literally had the game explained to them the entire time. It's the nature of a major sport that is played by only a tiny fraction of the population. In Phoenix the only thing I heard the entire time was "HIT HIM!" when the Blackhawks had the puck, and "Shoot! Shoot it!" when the Coyotes had the puck. If I went to a futbol or cricket match, I'd probably spend the entire time asking people about situations.

 

I totally understand that. It's when people try to sound like they are regular hockey fans and scream out when a team pulls off his goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty that I can't stand. I'm guessing if you were at a futbol game and it was the 90th minute of a 1 goal game with the trailing team taking their time trying to set up their attack you wouldn't start screaming out "WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU NEED TO PUT THE BALL ON NET YOU ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT", ignoring the likely presence of stoppage time. Or if a novice baseball fan was watching the Reds play and saw a player sacrifice bunt a runner to second. that fan wouldn't yell out "WHAT ARE DUSTY DOING GIVING AWAY AN OUT THERE ARE ONLY 27 OF THEM IN A GAME?" (oh wait.....im of course kidding on that last one)

 

But maybe I did overreact a bit, I just don't like to feel embarrassed because we already have a bandwagon fan image. And knowing there are hockey mad Vancouver fans going back to canada after the game and telling their friends stories of the stupid chicagoans and their lack of hockey knowledge makes me embarrassed.

[jersey cubs fan]

But maybe I did overreact a bit, I just don't like to feel embarrassed because we already have a bandwagon fan image. And knowing there are hockey mad Vancouver fans going back to canada after the game and telling their friends stories of the stupid chicagoans and their lack of hockey knowledge makes me embarrassed.

 

Screw 'em. We don't even know the game and we're better than them at it.

 

SHOOT THE PUCK! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? SHOOT IT!

[SpongeWorthy]

Your problem is that you're capable of being shamed by Canadians, not novice hockey fans.

[NewUserName]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I really couldnt tell you when it changed, but I am pretty sure when I was younger there was no such thing as a delayed penalty....this of course could just be faulty memory on my part

[Soul]

But maybe I did overreact a bit, I just don't like to feel embarrassed because we already have a bandwagon fan image. And knowing there are hockey mad Vancouver fans going back to canada after the game and telling their friends stories of the stupid chicagoans and their lack of hockey knowledge makes me embarrassed.

 

Screw 'em. We don't even know the game and we're better than them at it.

 

SHOOT THE PUCK! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? SHOOT IT!

 

LOL.

 

GET IT! HIT HIM! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING Q?!?

[Flames24Rulz]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I remember the Wolves lost a playoff game on the delayed penalty back earlier this decade. They were on the good end of delayed penalty and as soon as the extra attacker went on the ice, they lost control of the puck and the puck found the back of their own net in OT. That was just about as strange of a finish as when Boyle put the puck in the back of his own net in OT.

 

I knew about the extra attacker for quite some time, but that was only thanks to the video games. The announcers only mention it when they have the puck for a sustained amount of time, enabling the 6th attacker to get out there.

[Magnetic Curses]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I remember the Wolves lost a playoff game on the delayed penalty back earlier this decade. They were on the good end of delayed penalty and as soon as the extra attacker went on the ice, they lost control of the puck and the puck found the back of their own net in OT.

 

i was just going to ask if anyone can remember this ever happening or if the goal would even be allowed.

[17 Seconds]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I remember the Wolves lost a playoff game on the delayed penalty back earlier this decade. They were on the good end of delayed penalty and as soon as the extra attacker went on the ice, they lost control of the puck and the puck found the back of their own net in OT.

 

i was just going to ask if anyone can remember this ever happening or if the goal would even be allowed.

 

pretty sure it's happened in the nhl in the last couple years. i remember them showing it on sportscenter.

 

it's also come very close to happening twice in this postseason so far. i just don't remember the teams.

[17 Seconds]

 

here's the one i was talking about. it was shane o'brien and he also scored himself into the net

[Garwilly]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I remember the Wolves lost a playoff game on the delayed penalty back earlier this decade. They were on the good end of delayed penalty and as soon as the extra attacker went on the ice, they lost control of the puck and the puck found the back of their own net in OT. That was just about as strange of a finish as when Boyle put the puck in the back of his own net in OT.

 

I knew about the extra attacker for quite some time, but that was only thanks to the video games. The announcers only mention it when they have the puck for a sustained amount of time, enabling the 6th attacker to get out there.

 

 

Here's yours.

[17 Seconds]

My mind was blown when I realized you could pull the goalie for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty.

 

Yeah, it usually isn't shown on TV.

 

I remember the Wolves lost a playoff game on the delayed penalty back earlier this decade. They were on the good end of delayed penalty and as soon as the extra attacker went on the ice, they lost control of the puck and the puck found the back of their own net in OT. That was just about as strange of a finish as when Boyle put the puck in the back of his own net in OT.

 

I knew about the extra attacker for quite some time, but that was only thanks to the video games. The announcers only mention it when they have the puck for a sustained amount of time, enabling the 6th attacker to get out there.

 

 

Here's yours.

 

pat foley :good: