04/05 CUBS (Zambrano) @ Atlanta (Lowe) 3:05 CDT, WCIU & ESPN

[Soul]

Kyle I hear what your saying man, and on the surface it seems like it would make sense, but I can't see how your argument that you have to miss bats to be a good pitcher works when there have been far too many pitchers, HOF ones at that, who made a living pitching to contact.

 

Name them. I bet almost all of them missed bats at a decent rate.

 

Greg Maddux in the later part of his career (2002-2008) put up a 3.92 ERA and struck out only 14.1% of the batters he faced

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddugr01.shtml?redir#2002-2008-sum:pitching_simple

 

I'm at work so I'm not putting a ton of thought into this, so I'm likely to be contradicted, but that's just the first name I thought of when you asked me to name one.

 

I just can't think of many pitchers like Maddux. But I haven't really put much thought into it. I assume Kyle has, which is why he asked the question :mrgreen:

[C.C.]

So do you pinch hit for Marshall here or let him keep going?

 

Leave him in. It's only the 4th inning

[CubbieBum]

So do you pinch hit for Marshall here or let him keep going?

 

Got to keep him in. You will kill your bullpen if you have them take over this early. You have a guy who is really a starter killing it so why change.

[Rob]

Alfonso Soriano is gonna drag this worthless team to victory.

 

Butters, you're so stupid.

Edited April 5, 2010 by Rob

[Hall7810]

And they pull him

[Schwarber Fan]

Lou's so incompetent.

[erik316wttn]

At least we'll leave this day feeling good about Marshall.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining, I suppose.

 

Marshall is a huge stud. If he was with any other organization he'd have had at least one 15-win season by now.

[Butterscup1679666578]

heh

[woodprior04]

LOL at pinch hitting for Marshall. What a dumb move.

[Derwood]

well, that's brilliant

[Soul]

So do you pinch hit for Marshall here or let him keep going?

 

Leave him in. It's only the 4th inning

 

I thought Marshall would be doing de-facto starter duty when the likes of Silva melted down, not Zambrano.

[Sammy Sofa]

Great decision-making, Cubs.

[Derwood]

At least we'll leave this day feeling good about Marshall.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining, I suppose.

 

Marshall is a huge stud. If he was with any other organization he'd have had at least one 15-win season by now.

 

LOLOL

[TruffleShuffle]

lol so orel hersheiser has already determined that the cubs' offense is going to be fine and their playoff chances depend on their pitching. nice to see he jumped to that conclusion after 3 innings of play in 2010.

 

he's probably right though. he's actually a pretty smart guy and into numbers and stuff. he can probably see that last years team underachieved a bit, and assuming health, the offense could bounce back quite a bit. he can also see that the bullpen will probably be shaky and that silva and gorzelanny are in our rotation.

 

given how lousy the cubs' offense was and the aging lineup with at least one injury-prone cog, i wouldn't say that this offense is a known entity. but you're right in that the pitching can easily be shaky this year.

 

cubs might just not be very good, frankly.

[Hall7810]

GINGER OBA!

[Cubswin11]

So who is coming in here Berg or Russell? Hey leadoff walk!! do something useful Theriot.

[Soul]

So Lou pinch hits for Marshall.

 

And then Lowe walks Tracy on 4 pitches.

 

Nice. Love this game.

[erik316wttn]

LOL at pinch hitting for Marshall. What a dumb move.

 

Hey, Marshall wouldn't have drawn the 4-pitch walk.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Kyle I hear what your saying man, and on the surface it seems like it would make sense, but I can't see how your argument that you have to miss bats to be a good pitcher works when there have been far too many pitchers, HOF ones at that, who made a living pitching to contact.

 

Name them. I bet almost all of them missed bats at a decent rate.

 

Greg Maddux in the later part of his career (2002-2008) put up a 3.92 ERA and struck out only 14.1% of the batters he faced

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddugr01.shtml?redir#2002-2008-sum:pitching_simple

 

I'm at work so I'm not putting a ton of thought into this, so I'm likely to be contradicted, but that's just the first name I thought of when you asked me to name one.

 

But when he was putting up the HOF-worthy part of his career, he was striking out guys at an above-average rate. Most great pitchers who have a reputation for "pitching to contact" were actually striking out a decent amount of guys, and just limiting the damage when they did give up contact by not walking guys.

[NotSoSober]

Why pull Marshall? Lou is an idiot, and why not let Colvin bat after such a great spring?

[Sammy Sofa]

At least we'll leave this day feeling good about Marshall.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining, I suppose.

 

Marshall is a huge stud. If he was with any other organization he'd have had at least one 15-win season by now.

 

LOLOL

 

What? You don't think if he had been with the Royals/Pirates/Reds/Orioles/Nationals/etc. he'd have at least one 15-win season? QUIT HATIN'.

[erik316wttn]

Christ.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

lolcubsluck

[Butterscup1679666578]

lol

[TruffleShuffle]

nice baserunning