Kurt Warner retiring

[OleMissCub]

something tells me that this one is for real unlike our good buddy Favre.

[minnesotacubsfan]

could it be your Spidy Sense?

[dew1679666265]

Definite Hall of Famer. Should be at least.

[cbbryan]

One of our writers at 312 did a nice write-up on Warner: LINK

 

It will be interesting to see how the NFL voters look at Warner. I think he'll have more problems getting in then most think.

 

He had a great career, but he only had about 5 good seasons and his yards are lower than most of the recent QB inductions.

 

The NFL HOF is a crapshoot anyway.

[Roast]

Smart move by him, I think. He's had enough concussions and it's probably best he gets out while he can still see straight.

[Cubswin11]

Watching the 1999-2001 STL teams was some of the most entertaining football I have ever watched in my life.

[illiniguy]

Kurt Warner was awesome.

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[UMFan83]

I've always respected Warner, so it's sad to see him go.

 

I don't think the Cardinals are sold on Leinart at all. I wouldn't be shocked to see them go after another QB in the offseason.

[TruffleShuffle]

i'd like to see the eagles trade mcnabb now. he still has pretty good value left and there are good teams that will have a need a qb. i don't think mcnabb is much better than kolb at this point though, and the eagles aren't going to win a championship with mcnabb.

[CubbieBum]

One of our writers at 312 did a nice write-up on Warner: LINK

 

It will be interesting to see how the NFL voters look at Warner. I think he'll have more problems getting in then most think.

 

He had a great career, but he only had about 5 good seasons and his yards are lower than most of the recent QB inductions.

 

The NFL HOF is a crapshoot anyway.

 

I have always said he could struggle to get in for awhile. One problem will be like you said his career numbers aren't going to be quite as high as others retiring around him. However, the thing that has always really bugged me is who he has played with. He plays with one of the best offenses ever accessibled and with two of the best WR's in Bruce and Holt. Bruce starts to slip, as does everyone else other than Holt and Warner starts sucking. He goes to the Giants who have little to work with and sucks on epic proportions (something like 13 fumbles in 5 games). He then goes to Arizona where they have two of the best WR's in the league and once again he is one of the best QB's in the league.

 

To me he's a borderline because he had the time in New York of blowing chunks and even with struggled at the end in St. Louis when he still had Holt and a decent Bruce. I'm not convinced he was anything other than some who could chuck it deep well. That said I'm fine with him getting in eventually and fine with him not. Like I said I'm borderline with him.

[XZero771679666304]

One of our writers at 312 did a nice write-up on Warner: LINK

 

It will be interesting to see how the NFL voters look at Warner. I think he'll have more problems getting in then most think.

 

He had a great career, but he only had about 5 good seasons and his yards are lower than most of the recent QB inductions.

 

The NFL HOF is a crapshoot anyway.

 

I have always said he could struggle to get in for awhile. One problem will be like you said his career numbers aren't going to be quite as high as others retiring around him. However, the thing that has always really bugged me is who he has played with. He plays with one of the best offenses ever accessibled and with two of the best WR's in Bruce and Holt. Bruce starts to slip, as does everyone else other than Holt and Warner starts sucking. He goes to the Giants who have little to work with and sucks on epic proportions (something like 13 fumbles in 5 games). He then goes to Arizona where they have two of the best WR's in the league and once again he is one of the best QB's in the league.

 

To me he's a borderline because he had the time in New York of blowing chunks and even with struggled at the end in St. Louis when he still had Holt and a decent Bruce. I'm not convinced he was anything other than some who could chuck it deep well. That said I'm fine with him getting in eventually and fine with him not. Like I said I'm borderline with him.

 

He started sucking in STL because the o-line went downhill and in Martz's system he started getting pounded harder than Sasha Grey. He was just bad in NY, but I think that was in part because he still had the jitters from being killed in STL. And he is remembered as being bad in NY in large part because of his propensity to fumble, which I think is the only real knock on him.

 

But having great WR is no guarantee of anything. A great WR needs a great QB more than vice versa. Warner has/had great accuracy and a great, quick release. A lot of his success was a result of YAC (not so much over the top deep balls), but for your receivers to have a lot of YAC, you have to know the routes and hit them on target and in stride. Kurt Warner did that about as well as anybody ever has. And Bruce/Holt never went on to have nearly the success after Warner as with him (and do you even remember Az Hakim?). How Fitz and Boldin do remains to be seen. and don't forget the success he had in Arizona came without the benefit of a running game.

 

And Warner was lights out in the playoffs, and could easily have three superbowl rings instead of one (not that I put a lot of stock in rings as a way of judging a QB), in which case there wouldn't even be a discussion here.