McGwire admits to steroid use

[SouthSideRyan]

thank goodness Sammy never did steriod and he will now be credited for breaking Maris's record.

 

Misquoted. Hardcorecubfan said that.

 

 

I honestly don't think there is a single Cubs fan out there who doesn't think Sosa didn't juice.

Since he tested positive in 03 it's really not a matter of opinion anymore.

 

False positive IMO

[imb]

so he's saying that he used roids, but NOT to help his performance.

 

i'm so [expletive] sick of these half apologies. i'd rather a guy just not say anything then half ass it and make excuses.

 

GOD I KNOW

 

"I wish I had never taken them"

 

all these pussies say that. really guys? you made an extra 100 million dollars because you took steroids you idiot.

[Sammy Sofa]

Steroids really are fantastic. I'm not a [expletive] and I can't wait for bionic players, too.

[jaydee]

tlr is an even bigger waste of air than big mac

[Wilson A2000]

tlr is an even bigger waste of air than big mac

 

Bobby Knight is about as bad. He said that since Gatorade enhances performance, baseball players should be able to use equine steroids.

[Sammy Sofa]

That's the smartest thing Bobby Knight has ever said.

 

VIVE LA PED'S.

[XZero771679666304]

 

VIVE LA PED'S.

 

Hey, it works for the NFL.

 

Let the players do what they think they have to, since they always have. I'm sick of this sanctimonious [expletive].

[wekse]

 

VIVE LA PED'S.

 

Hey, it works for the NFL.

 

Let the players do what they think they have to, since they always have. I'm sick of this sanctimonious [expletive].

 

hell yes...and all ped league i would love.

[Sammy Sofa]

It would be glorious, if just for the cut down on DL trips alone. Real sports for real men.

[Soul]

I'll be so happy when someone admits to it only under the context of how badass it was and how we all [expletive] loved it.

 

Wasn't that basically Canseco?

[Sammy Sofa]

No. Someone needs to be cool about it, not depserate.

[Soul]

No. Someone needs to be cool about it, not depserate.

 

Well darn then. The only ones I can think of outside of Canseco would be WWE guys. Maybe body builders.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4819250&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Cleveland Indians Hall of Famer pitcher Bob Feller, 91, doesn't believe McGwire's admission will help him significantly in the eyes of voters.

 

"It'll help him some, but not very much," Feller told Willie Weinbaum of the ESPN Enterprise Unit. "I wouldn't vote for him and I don't think he'll get into the Hall of Fame in my lifetime."

you're already on borrowed time, Bob

[Wilson A2000]

The statement that McGwire released was the right approach. The live interview with Costas was absolutely wrong headed. He blamed the MLB for not doing steroid testing because that enabled him to shoot up. That's Mark McGwire - still not taking responsibility for himself. He is right in that steroids don't give you hand-eye coordination. But they give you strength and power and McGwire knows it. Dan Bernstein made a good point today. McGwire said that he took steroids to help him recover from injuries. But the steroids contributed to his injuries in the first place and he had to know that. McGwire is either dumb or lying. Maybe both. I haven't seen the whole interview, but Costas has been one of the most outspoken opponents of steroids. Did he press McGwire at all or was he afraid of a 250, I mean at present 200 pound man crying his lying eyes out?

[XZero771679666304]

I like that Jeremy Schaap piece they just aired. It was literally dripping with false outrage and feigned indignation.

[fromthestretch]

After the interview, Costas literally stated that it would be impossible for a player to hit 65-70 home runs in a season without any chemical assistance. He even cited factors that would aid someone in their efforts, such as smaller parks, diluted pitching talent, "juiced" baseballs, modern weight training, video of opposing pitchers, etc., and still stated outright that it would be impossible.

 

Really, Bob? Impossible? I'll agree it's certainly not probable and would take an elite hitter to accomplish it, but I wouldn't dismiss it outright. Babe Ruth hit 60 in 151 games in an era not exactly known for home runs (only one other person in the AL hit more than 18 that season). He was on pace for 64 in 162 games. I would say that 65 is certainly reachable.

 

And am I the only one that is not a fan of Ken Rosenthal or his opinions on just about anything? I want to punch that little leprechaun every time I see him on TV.

[Mugged By Fluffy]

Did he press McGwire at all or was he afraid of a 250, I mean at present 200 pound man crying his lying eyes out?

 

I think he pressed McGwire pretty well in the interview without crossing the line of complete douchebaggery, often questioning the authenticity of McGwire's stats and asking McGwire numerous times if he believed his accomplishments are valid and why. Costas didn't seem all that satisfied with McGwire's insistance of his "God given abilities" and his refusal to admit that the steroids did not boost his performance.

[17 Seconds]

After the interview, Costas literally stated that it would be impossible for a player to hit 65-70 home runs in a season without any chemical assistance. He even cited factors that would aid someone in their efforts, such as smaller parks, diluted pitching talent, "juiced" baseballs, modern weight training, video of opposing pitchers, etc., and still stated outright that it would be impossible.

 

Really, Bob? Impossible? I'll agree it's certainly not probable and would take an elite hitter to accomplish it, but I wouldn't dismiss it outright. Babe Ruth hit 60 in 151 games in an era not exactly known for home runs (only one other person in the AL hit more than 18 that season). He was on pace for 64 in 162 games. I would say that 65 is certainly reachable.

 

i don't know if impossible is the right word, but baseball has been around forever and nobody has done it yet.

[TruffleShuffle]

he refused to admit that steroids boosted his performance? that's embarrassing.

[SouthSideRyan]

I like that Jeremy Schaap piece they just aired. It was literally dripping with false outrage and feigned indignation.

 

He should've retired after his story on his father and Bobby Fischer.

 

He's awful.

[fromthestretch]

After the interview, Costas literally stated that it would be impossible for a player to hit 65-70 home runs in a season without any chemical assistance. He even cited factors that would aid someone in their efforts, such as smaller parks, diluted pitching talent, "juiced" baseballs, modern weight training, video of opposing pitchers, etc., and still stated outright that it would be impossible.

 

Really, Bob? Impossible? I'll agree it's certainly not probable and would take an elite hitter to accomplish it, but I wouldn't dismiss it outright. Babe Ruth hit 60 in 151 games in an era not exactly known for home runs (only one other person in the AL hit more than 18 that season). He was on pace for 64 in 162 games. I would say that 65 is certainly reachable.

 

i don't know if impossible is the right word, but baseball has been around forever and nobody has done it yet.

 

Like I said, the probability certainly is low, but I think it's foolish to dismiss the possibility.

[Sammy Sofa]

The only thing that continues to frustrate me with this steroid stuff is just the willful ignorance of those in the sports media to focus almost totally on the strength-building aspect of PED's while ignoring that the majority of guys using [expletive] they shouldn't be across all the major sports are likely doing so to cut down on time missed due to injury. Everyone is so focused on the dumbed-down stereotype of the gigantic 'roids monster that they're able to convince themselves that the issue is much smaller than it really is. I just heard the guys on the Score convincing themselves that nobody could be using in the NBA because none of them look like baseball players or football players who we know/suspect of juicing. Yeah, really good analysis, morons. That must mean nobody in the NBA is using PED's.

[fromthestretch]

The only thing that continues to frustrate me with this steroid stuff is just the willful ignorance of those in the sports media to focus almost totally on the strength-building aspect of PED's while ignoring that the majority of guys using [expletive] they shouldn't be across all the major sports are likely doing so to cut down on time missed due to injury. Everyone is so focused on the dumbed-down stereotype of the gigantic 'roids monster that they're able to convince themselves that the issue is much smaller than it really is. I just heard the guys on the Score convincing themselves that nobody could be using in the NBA because none of them look like baseball players or football players who we know/suspect of juicing. Yeah, really good analysis, morons. That must mean nobody in the NBA is using PED's.

 

Bingo. There's a reason that a lot of mediocre middle relievers were/are taking this stuff. Recovery time is shortened.

[jersey cubs fan]

I just heard the guys on the Score convincing themselves that nobody could be using in the NBA because none of them look like baseball players or football players who we know/suspect of juicing.

 

NBA is loaded with freakily physical guys. You just can't put the type of muscle those guys put on 7' frames. Nobody can say that it's impossible for Dwight Howard to have messed around.

 

Aside from the injury recovery, which in itself is a performance enhancer, much of the good stuff doesn't bulk you up, it helps you get ripped.

 

The other thing about willful ignorance that bothers me is that everybody started acting as though nobody even heard of steroids before the Balco story. It's a ridiculous notion. I vividly remember talk of steroids in the 80's and all the warnings about staying away or your balls would shrivel. There were numerous high school kids rumored and/or known to be on them, and calls to test high school athletes all the times, and check lockers for drugs, yet somehow the elite sports media had no idea?

[Sammy Sofa]

I just heard the guys on the Score convincing themselves that nobody could be using in the NBA because none of them look like baseball players or football players who we know/suspect of juicing.

 

NBA is loaded with freakily physical guys. You just can't put the type of muscle those guys put on 7' frames. Nobody can say that it's impossible for Dwight Howard to have messed around.

 

Aside from the injury recovery, which in itself is a performance enhancer, much of the good stuff doesn't bulk you up, it helps you get ripped.

 

The other thing about willful ignorance that bothers me is that everybody started acting as though nobody even heard of steroids before the Balco story. It's a ridiculous notion. I vividly remember talk of steroids in the 80's and all the warnings about staying away or your balls would shrivel. There were numerous high school kids rumored and/or known to be on them, and calls to test high school athletes all the times, and check lockers for drugs, yet somehow the elite sports media had no idea?

 

Right. All this McGwire "revelation" does is help people run around with their eyes closed and fingers in their ears in terms of convincing themselves that the "steroid era" in baseball only goes back about 20 years.

 

And yeah, the basketball conclusion on the Score just made me stop and stare at the radio. Just when I think sports radio shows can't surprise me with how dumb they can be, boom, here we are. They also decided that NBA players don't use PED's because they don't have the financial means to access them growing up and playing before they join the NBA. Uhm, as opposed to the scores of rich from birth players in baseball and football? They also decided that NBA players wouldn't want to use PED's because they love weed too much. I really don't know why one would preclude the other.