College football offseason thread

[Magnetic Curses]

kiffin was a fantastically bad hire.

 

Hamilton made the decision to hire him based on him being a good coach and a good recruiter. He was right on both counts. He took a risk likely knowing Kiffin would bolt at the first chance to go to USC, but who would have thought that job would open after one season? If Pete Carroll hadn't gone to the Seahawks, Kiffin is still here building a good program.

 

However, Hamilton's assessment that Kiffin was a good coach and excellent recruiter was correct. That's what I was getting at.

 

good coach and excellent recruiter is not considering all the facts. he's the reason why there are riots in knoxville right now.

[OleMissCub]

I think it is funny that their baby is named "Knox". didn't think that one through.

[TheVolCub08]

Yes, but no. Kippy Brown is the reason any high school WR would be an idiot to not at least look, but Ambles is almost certainly gone.

 

I've also heard Kirby Smart's name mentioned... but after leaving his alma mater at the alter, I don't think I buy it. He and Muschamp are reportedly tight, though. IF- and I stress the word IF- that were to happen, both DC's from the BCS Championship game would be on the same staff.

 

That Kippy Brown hire is looking better than ever now. A very good coach who can stabilize the program a bit and maybe save a few extra recruits is very important right now.

 

And I'd love to get Smart, but I really, really doubt it'd be feasible. If he was looking to leave Bama for anything other than a HC job, I think he'd be at UGA.

 

The latest news is just sickening. Paul Finebaum is saying that Muschamp is a no (PF is really good friends with Jimmy Sexton) and the name being thrown out that seems to be picking up a little bit of steam is Doug Marrone. :banghead:

 

If we're going to go with a former UT coach, why not try hard to get Cutcliffe? He's the best coach UT may have ever seen.

 

Of course, I want Leach. And I'm going to keep saying that until Hamilton goes for him.

 

Neither Cutcliffe nor Leach are on that list. It appears that Marrone's name was only thrown out because of his ties to UT. I'm hearing again that it's Muschamp, and that if it's not him, it's Troy Calhoun. I'll puke if that is true.

 

Apparently, this has been brewing. Hamilton knew it was coming and had already spoken with Muschamp and Calhoun (confirmed that Hamilton was in Denver on Sunday). Hamilton is still out of town, and Orgeron and the Kiffin's decided not to wait until Thursday (as was the original plan) so that they could let Early Enrollees know about their decision before classes started. Again, this is all rumor, so tifwiw.

 

Are you on any Vols websites?

Edited January 13, 2010 by TheVolCub08

[Magnetic Curses]

i don't know what they're rioting over, in their minds tennessee is still the odds-on favorite to win the national championship next season.

 

And who, exactly, is saying this, sulley?

 

come on, tell the truth, you like their chances next season, don't you?

[dew1679666265]

If we're going to go with a former UT coach, why not try hard to get Cutcliffe? He's the best coach UT may have ever seen.

 

He needs a Manning to be badass.

 

although I have to admit what he has done with Duke football is quite impressive.

 

Yeah, he's disproving that theory quite well at Duke.

 

He also fixed Erik Ainge from a horrific sophomore year to an NFL quarterback and made what was a bad Tennessee offense a good offense.

[TheVolCub08]

i don't know what they're rioting over, in their minds tennessee is still the odds-on favorite to win the national championship next season.

 

And who, exactly, is saying this, sulley?

 

come on, tell the truth, you like their chances next season, don't you?

 

To win 7 games? Depends on who the coach is and how well they wrap up this recruiting class. UT possibly (probably?) starts 1-4.

 

No, sulley, your preconceived notions do not make it true that there are any sane or rational fans anywhere out there who believe UT has a shot at the SEC, much less the MNC.

[dew1679666265]

kiffin was a fantastically bad hire.

 

Hamilton made the decision to hire him based on him being a good coach and a good recruiter. He was right on both counts. He took a risk likely knowing Kiffin would bolt at the first chance to go to USC, but who would have thought that job would open after one season? If Pete Carroll hadn't gone to the Seahawks, Kiffin is still here building a good program.

 

However, Hamilton's assessment that Kiffin was a good coach and excellent recruiter was correct. That's what I was getting at.

 

good coach and excellent recruiter is not considering all the facts. he's the reason why there are riots in knoxville right now.

 

This is true and also why my wording was poor. Hamilton has proven to be very good at evaluating talented coaches and can get them to Tennessee. I think he'll find a very good coach, I just hope this coach stays here.

[dew1679666265]

i don't know what they're rioting over, in their minds tennessee is still the odds-on favorite to win the national championship next season.

 

And who, exactly, is saying this, sulley?

 

come on, tell the truth, you like their chances next season, don't you?

 

I haven't felt like we could contend for a national title since 2001. And that year we did compete for one. If we get a good coach out of this, 7-8 wins is possible and probable. Any more would be a very good stunner.

[SpongeWorthy]

Ron Turner's looking for a job.

[dew1679666265]

Neither Cutcliffe nor Leach are on that list. It appears that Marrone's name was only thrown out because of his ties to UT. I'm hearing again that it's Muschamp, and that if it's not him, it's Troy Calhoun. I'll puke if that is true.

 

Apparently, this has been brewing. Hamilton knew it was coming and had already spoken with Muschamp and Calhoun (confirmed that Hamilton was in Denver on Sunday). Hamilton is still out of town, and Orgeron and the Kiffin's decided not to wait until Thursday (as was the original plan) so that they could let Early Enrollees know about their decision before classes started. Again, this is all rumor, so tifwiw.

 

Interesting stuff. What is it you don't like about Calhoun? He's done a pretty good job at Air Force, a job where success is extremely hard to come by. I liken him similarly to Turner Gill.

 

And I knew Hamilton wouldn't consider Leach, but he's far and away the best option. He should be the next coach here, but Muschamp would be solid, I think.

 

Are you on any Vols websites?

 

Nope. Haven't really found any good ones and I don't like the idea of paying to be on a message board.

 

I do follow MrSEC.com at times, though.

[dew1679666265]

Ron Turner's looking for a job.

 

USC may still need an OC.

[dew1679666265]

VolCub,

 

Is Bray staying?

[RedFlash]

(sorry, OMC, but you're living in a dreamland if you think you have any shot at Ambles) and that he's going to officially visit next weekend.

 

considering that HE contacted Ole Miss, that his father is in constant contact with the Ole Miss people, and that he is likely scheduling a visit, I'd say there is more than a "dreamland" chance. He'll probably end up at USC though.

 

To be fair OMC, Ambles and his father also contacted Bama, which Bama politely told him "we have no more room for another WR in this class", or something to that affect. My guess is Ambles could end up out at USC, but it wouldn't surprise if Houston Nutt can land Ambles.

[TheVolCub08]

VolCub,

 

Is Bray staying?

 

Yes. His entire family moved to Knoxville. Little brother is enrolled at Farragut.

 

Also, Mr. SEC SUUUCCKS. Isn't Hyams the primary UT writer there? Volquest is absolutely worth $10 a month. Volsbitch.com is free, incredibly irreverent, and a good site for entertainment and pretty solid info. You should look into one of those. Best info on Tennessee athletics on the web.

[TheVolCub08]

(sorry, OMC, but you're living in a dreamland if you think you have any shot at Ambles) and that he's going to officially visit next weekend.

 

considering that HE contacted Ole Miss, that his father is in constant contact with the Ole Miss people, and that he is likely scheduling a visit, I'd say there is more than a "dreamland" chance. He'll probably end up at USC though.

 

To be fair OMC, Ambles and his father also contacted Bama, which Bama politely told him "we have no more room for another WR in this class", or something to that affect. My guess is Ambles could end up out at USC, but it wouldn't surprise if Houston Nutt can land Ambles.

 

Not to mention that tonight, he is quoted by Pat Tholey or Rivals as mentioning 3 schools: USC, West Virginia and Tennessee. Ole Miss is not in the picture.

[cubsfan]

Interesting stuff. What is it you don't like about Calhoun? He's done a pretty good job at Air Force, a job where success is extremely hard to come by. I liken him similarly to Turner Gill.

Air Force is a proven winning program, has been for 30 years.

[dew1679666265]

VolCub,

 

Is Bray staying?

 

Yes. His entire family moved to Knoxville. Little brother is enrolled at Farragut.

 

Also, Mr. SEC SUUUCCKS. Isn't Hyams the primary UT writer there? Volquest is absolutely worth $10 a month. Volsbitch.com is free, incredibly irreverent, and a good site for entertainment and pretty solid info. You should look into one of those. Best info on Tennessee athletics on the web.

 

It's actually John Pennington and Josh Ward as the main contributors to MrSEC. Hyams isn't involved at all, to my knowledge.

 

And I keep considering Volquest, but just don't like paying money.

[OleMissCub]

(sorry, OMC, but you're living in a dreamland if you think you have any shot at Ambles) and that he's going to officially visit next weekend.

 

considering that HE contacted Ole Miss, that his father is in constant contact with the Ole Miss people, and that he is likely scheduling a visit, I'd say there is more than a "dreamland" chance. He'll probably end up at USC though.

 

To be fair OMC, Ambles and his father also contacted Bama, which Bama politely told him "we have no more room for another WR in this class", or something to that affect. My guess is Ambles could end up out at USC, but it wouldn't surprise if Houston Nutt can land Ambles.

 

Not to mention that tonight, he is quoted by Pat Tholey or Rivals as mentioning 3 schools: USC, West Virginia and Tennessee. Ole Miss is not in the picture.

 

Well he is quoted by Dave Childers, ALSO of Rivals, as saying that he is planning on taking a visit to Ole Miss. "Ole Miss is right there" is the exact quote.

 

You're acting like Ole Miss is Tulane or something and it would just be STUNNING for a recruit to want to go there. We've had just as many 1st round picks the last 5 years as you guys have.

Edited January 13, 2010 by OleMissCub

[dew1679666265]

Interesting stuff. What is it you don't like about Calhoun? He's done a pretty good job at Air Force, a job where success is extremely hard to come by. I liken him similarly to Turner Gill.

Air Force is a proven winning program, has been for 30 years.

 

You're right, I misstated. Wins were tough to come by, however, for a few years before Calhoun got there (5-7 wins in the mid 2000s), but he got them back to a consistent 8-9 win team. I think he can continue to improve them if he doesn't get a bigger (BCS) job (which I think he should).

[Guest]

Every Raider fan I've ever talked to wanted Kiffin to stay on board and thought he was making progress when Davis canned him.

 

Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with Kiffin. He never really had a chance to do much and it's so hard to tell if a coach there is actually doing a good job because of Al Davis.

[dew1679666265]

And that's fantastic news on Bray. We can at least keep our QBs intact heading into next year.

[dew1679666265]

Every Raider fan I've ever talked to wanted Kiffin to stay on board and thought he was making progress when Davis canned him.

 

Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with Kiffin. He never really had a chance to do much and it's so hard to tell if a coach there is actually doing a good job because of Al Davis.

 

I know he just screwed my team and all, but he really ought to get another NFL head coaching job.

[TheVolCub08]

Well he is quoted by Dave Childers, ALSO of Rivals, as saying that he is planning on taking a visit to Ole Miss. "Ole Miss is right there" is the exact quote.

 

You're acting like Ole Miss is Tulane or something and it would just be STUNNING for a recruit to want to go there. We've had just as many 1st round picks the last 5 years as you guys have.

 

No, I'm not acting like that at all. I'm saying that Ambles did not even mention Ole Miss tonight in his text conversation with Mike Farrell- a National Rivals writer, and not a writer for a specific site.

 

From Mike Farrell

 

WR Markeith Ambles texted me and said he doesn't know what he's going to do now but he wants to talk to Lane Kiffin because he's interested in USC and always was before his commitment to Tennessee. Otherwise he'll look at LSU and possibly West Virginia hard and will continue to look at the Vols to see who they hire.

 

Pat Tholey

Managing Producer of College Team Sites

tholey@yahoo-inc.com

[hawkeyecub]

Can someone explain to a non-SEC guy what the "Yaw yaw yaw" thing is about with Orgeron? Is it just because he sounds like a meathead?

[The Voice of Reason]

I like Kiffin coming home. Only a matter of time now until huge sanctions hit USC and they're barred from postseason play.

 

Fixed.

 

And it's going to be awesome.

Part of me fears that SC wouldn't have gotten a guy like Kiffin if he had received any indication that the NCAA was coming down hard on them. I mean, he was THERE during the heyday of these violations, for God's sake.

 

what does "a guy like kiffin" mean?

 

a guy who was a miserable, overmatched pro coach hated by his entire organization and then won like 7 games in 1 season at tennessee?

 

Pete Carroll's record wasn't that great until he got to USC.